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Re: inner elbow pain 13 yr old

Chico Escuela ·
This reminds me: As the parent of a young player with arm pain, you will find a LOT of differing advice. There just isn't much of a consensus out there about this stuff (even among MLB clubs and players who have millions of dollars at stake). It can be frustrating. Which is another reason I wish the OP all the best in deciding what to do about your son. (No opinion intended about the comment I'm replying to here. It just made me think about how many sources I consulted about my son, and how...
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real green ·
It is much harder to accomplish than it seems. Players NEED a minimum of 4 weeks to build up a base before throwing at 100%. Starting at 45 ft and 50 % day 1 and movi g back to max effort long toss by end of week 4.
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CaCO3Girl ·
Nope, just a mom who was hyper conscious of arm issues. My son was a prime candidate. At 12u he was already 5'7 and throwing 70mph. He's big and throws hard are the kiss of death for arm issues. As to the no one has told you he has issues with his throwing....have you asked? Our society as a whole is apathetic at times. If I saw a near high schooler throwing wonky I would think "that kid throws weird, I assume someone has told him and that's just a weird natural arm slot or...
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Goosegg ·
"[A]fter he released the ball he was doing something weird with his arm." Was it the "backward C?"
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coachld ·
Sharing a couple of paragraphs from article by Mike Reinold: "We are starting to see the results of what these kids did 10 years ago. The excessive pitching from youth and high school baseball is catching up. There is a lifespan on your ligament. Many kids are injuring themselves as kids and may not even know it. Remember that week your elbow was soreness in High School? Yup, that may have been the beginning. In addition to avoiding overuse, which has repetitively been proved to be the #1...
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CaCO3Girl ·
The instructor told my kid what he did wrong, worked with him for 30 minutes. Instructor and kid said they understood the problem. I paid the man and the pain went away. That's the extent of my knowledge. :- )
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mysonsacatcher ·
You all will not believe this. My son went through with the rehab process like a champ return to play two weekends ago and looked great. Well...this past week at the football spring game he severely dislocated the elbow of his throwing arm. It was a horrible thing to even look at. He had surgery yesterday morning to insert a screw to reattach the medial epicondyle. The ortho says the way his arm (medial epicondyle) broke, probably saved the ligaments/tendons on the inner part of his elbow.
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JCG ·
Oh shoot! Sorry...
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Chico Escuela ·
I am so sorry for your son and for you. I have been there as a parent--it is really hard. All I can suggest is to tell your son it's ok to be upset about the injury and to encourage him through treatment and rehab. My oldest eventually gave up competitive sports after a long string of painful freak accidents and injuries. The "what-ifs" and "if-onlys" can be tough for an injured athlete or their parents.
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mysonsacatcher ·
I am trying to find people who have experienced this type of surgery and what their return was like.
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2022NYC ·
Sorry to read. Godspeed on his recovery
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Smitty28 ·
I think he will be fine. I've known several kids that suffered fractured medial epicondyle (from throwing, not from an impact injury such as yours). In each case (with and without surgical repair) the athletes experienced full recovery and had excellent throwing velocity as they matured. Neither of these kids pitched but I'm not sure that would have mattered. My recollection is that recovery was on the order of 4 months to begin throwing program and 6-8 months before game ready. PT was...
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mysonsacatcher ·
We will do what ever is needed and will stay the course. I am just hoping my son will not lose faith and will work through the pain of therapy. He just needs to know that the outcome can be a positive situation. If he knows that, then I believe that he will be able to motivate himself. This will be a massive test of his patience, desire and toughness. He and I came up with a new saying: "There isn't but one way to eat an elephant.......one bite at a time"
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Smitty28 ·
He's still very young in the scheme of things, and even though it's a bad time of year and he'll miss this season, the good news is that it's bone (which heals 100%) and the ortho said good things about his ligaments. When he's 15/16 and playing all this will be ancient history, and the break at 13 may have the effect of re-energizing his hunger.
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coachld ·
Sorry to hear. Just make sure he has a great PT which can be the difference maker with a long recovery.
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mysonsacatcher ·
My son has above average ability. He is very athletic, not only in baseball but also in other sports. As a dad, you think there may be some baseball for him after high school.....maybe junior college.....maybe 4 year. Now you are just hoping he can play the game again at all and if he can't, how do you deal with this? Baseball is his love and to think it could possibly be over is a very tough pill to swallow.
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CaCO3Girl ·
It's not the end of the world. You tell him baseball ends for everyone at some point in time. You get him to try other activities....chess, graphic design, go kart racing....whatever. Lots of stuff to do in life. I live baseball, whether my kid is playing or not, it's just an amazing game. But if it ended tomorrow we would find other things to do. It's not healthy to obsess over one thing, not even a girl, and not even a sport you/he love. If it's over it's over. I will add, that this is...
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baseballhs ·
Try to keep everything in context. He is young. I know it feels like missing 6 months or a year or whatever they recommend will set him back, but it is short in the scheme of things. You also need to make sure you are reinforcing the fact that he is more than an athlete, more than a baseball player. Kids do have to give it up all the time, and they need to realize they are valuable for a multitude of reasons that have zero to do with sports.
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mysonsacatcher ·
Went to DR this morning for follow up and things are looking good got him out of the cast and into a lockable brace (locked at 90 degrees). Will start therapy this week or next. Will go to therapy 2-3 days a week for 4 weeks. Screw looks good and the scar was HUGE.
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CaCO3Girl ·
There are lotions/creams to reduce the scars appearance. Visit your local pharmacy and ask for a recommendation. I have an 8 inch scar at my ankle. but am finally comfortable wearing flip flops and shorts.
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MidAtlanticDad ·
Sorry to hear about your son's injury. If he needs a little extra motivation at some point, and you're so inclined, the promise of a nice tattoo for that scar might help.
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mysonsacatcher ·
we have already looked at options.
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TPM ·
I am sorry that your 13 year old had to have surgery. One question for you. Your son is 13, had issues. Why in the world didn't you just shut it down after baseball? Why didnt you just give it a rest?
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mysonsacatcher ·
The injury occurred in the spring football game. It was a freak accident. Not only does he play baseball but he also plays football and soccer. I don't think kids at this age should be playing one sport only. They need to be well rounded athletes.
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TPM ·
Thank you for answering my question.
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Chico Escuela ·
Very glad to hear the news is good. Best of luck to your son in the rehab process--it can be a grind, but is very important. I have spent many hours keeping both my kids company while they did PT. I'd rather they hadn't been injured of course, but in retrospect we had some excellent conversations while they were doing reps or icing afterwards.
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mysonsacatcher ·
Does anyone hear know of anyone who has dealt with a dislocated throwing elbow?
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standballdad ·
Not only that, pitchers that are 1.5 or higher to the plate are doing their catcher a disservice.
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PWPW ·
Also college coaches figure they can teach a catcher to block and receive pretty easy. Arm strength on the other hand is harder to coach.
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Dominik85 ·
I agree. A catcher who can throw out runners is a plus but at the HS Level I would be very happy as a Coach to have a catcher that blocks everything and knows how to Play the game. If you can hit a Little that helps too. of course you should work on your Pop time but most catchers lose way more runs through wild pitches/passed balls, throwing Errors and maybe even dropped third strikes than they gain through throwing out runners. of course to Play college you Need to throw out runners but I...
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2forU ·
Don't let anyone tell you pop time does not matter, it's all that matters. I don't believe that, but I'm not the ones recruiting. No ones going to teach blocking 92mph wild pitches, you have to just react and the only way that happens is if you have been doing it all your life. Keep up your blocking, work hard on framing, and work hardest on ball velocity. Good luck!
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CollegeParentNoMore ·
"Maybe some of you can answer this question that I was thinking about as I was watching my son's team last week....why is the number of passed balls a catcher allows in a season not a statistic people seem to be interested in? " Passed ball or wild pitch? This statistic is not very helpful because 1) most HS scorekeepers can't consistently identify either, and or the/coach or scorekeeper changes the scoring for other reasons. AND/OR 2) A catcher working with a strong pitching staff will have...
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Golfman25 ·
Kids mom made this observation. Little Johnny is a much better catcher when the pitchers are good.
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Dominik85 ·
I'm not sure that it matters all that much. a bounced throw by the SS is not an error by the 1B but still coaches expect the 1B to pick pitches. of course many wild pitches are not catchable at all but a good catcher will still catch more of those borderline wild pitches. what matters in the end is how many pitches go to the backstop and I think a Coach can judge that quite well no matter how the scorer scores it. for example a pitch that bounces 2 feet left of the plate would be a wild...
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c2019 ·
Ben , As speaking from experience , my son started this past season at Varsity as a freshman in 29 games , he started at the 8th spot in the line up then moved to the 2nd and 5th spot mid season, and ended up at the 3rd spot in our Region game, most of the advice is true, you have to work hard , you must treat framing and blocking like a art(take pride)! I wasn't so much on pop time for my son , as I was for arm Strength, he was @ 80 mph from the chute, don't know what the pop time is, ill...
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