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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Tampa2020 ·
good thread NYC, thx
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Gov ·
Based on our experience Coaches are assuming you are a good student given the player is attending HF or ShowBall. For a first time score of 1300 on the SAT, equivalent of a 28 ACT, that's a good start, and the Coaches know the student will take the SAT or ACT a few more times. Having said that, a 1300 SAT or 28 ACT along with some serious baseball talent will get you into most Ivy's. Serious baseball talent: Big Bat or Big Arm. If a player is hitting balls hard all over the field along with...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Tampa2020 ·
2020 6' 185 Thanks for the reply, numbers or percentage wise, are these showcases filled with kids like mine? How many would you say? How many lesser talent, how many more talented?
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Gov ·
I'd guess more kids throw slower than 82-84, and more are below 6'. Does your son sit 82-84, or top FB 84 and he sits 80-82? Has your son ever been critiqued at a PBR or PG or some other showcase? What did they comment about your son? I'd find an inexpensive local camp - showcase to get some feedback specific to your son's skill level. (Plenty of kids throw 82-84 and are all over the place, don't start on their HS Varsity teams). Does he pitch for a reputable club team? What does that club...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Tampa2020 ·
sits 80-83 has natural cut so he loses a bit of velo on the ones that cut more. Can pitch, very well. On reputable team national ranked, HS all ranked very high, coaches will vouch for his pitchability. Already signed up for Showball, try to decide if HF will be worth the dough.
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row

MKbaseballdad ·
Son attended HF and the short answer to that question is yes, pitchers throw both days. I'm not sure if I'd say "make you" throw 2 days. I think you'd have the option to just throw day 1 or 2 but you'd most likely only get your 2 innings for that day. That's probably a good question for you to ask the HF team via email. They are very responsive. I can tell you that they have a pitching coordinator who checks on the pitchers each day as they enter the facility (on Long Island) and adjusts...
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row

9and7dad ·
So you're saying that two short outings on consecutive days bothers your arm? If so, you may have an issue that requires attention.
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row

cabbagedad ·
Welcome to the site, Kayne87... Yes, this is the bigger concern... Figure out what the issues are and get them fixed sooner than later or there will be no purpose in pursuing playing at the next level. That symptom points to something either structural or mechanical and there is a possibility that you are worsening the issue by continuing to throw. Get to a good sports PT or sports ortho. Best of luck to you.
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row

PGStaff ·
Once again, this can be a pitch count situation. Depending on how many pitches are thrown on the first day. It's not innings, it is the number of pitches that count. I'm almost certain that no one at either camp is going to throw someone who tells them he can't throw. This is why parents and players need to monitor things and understand arm care. Nobody running those events mentioned wants to purposely put any pitcher at risk. All you have to do is tell them ahead of time that you only want...
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row

Backstop22 ·
My son attended HF in Sacramento and if you signed up as a Pitcher as your primary position, you are expected, but not required, to pitch 2 innings both days. Now when I say "innings" remember: All batters start with a 1-1 count and are told to swing away--the HF umps call anything close a strike Only 5 batters hit each inning By way of example, my son pitched 11 pitches one inning and 14 the next and that was with several K's. I'd say most kids tossed between 15-25 pitches in their two...
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row

playball2011 ·
Are you saying you are in pain day after throwing many innings or is arm just tired? Is it painful when you re throwing? How many do you pitch in a game, 100, 110, 120 plus? If you have any pain it needs to be checked out. Much better to have issue in HS and fix it then in college if you get to play at that level. Good Luck to you.
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row

Rob T ·
As mentioned above... Throwing a couple of innings two days in a row may not be ideal depending on the number of pitches - but it should be something that you can do if necessary. If you do move on to play in college, you are going to be expected to throw a lot. Probably 6-7 days a week at some points. If pitching one day makes it impossible to throw the next, you really need to get your arm checked out. You are probably aggravating a chronic condition, and that isn't good for your long term...
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Re: Showball Camp vs Headfirst Camp Same November Weekend

fenwaysouth ·
Gov, I know you said target colleges will be attending both events. I'd ask the specific college coaches (your son is most interested in) which event is the "best fit" for your son to see what they say. Most likely the HC will be attending one event and the RC may be attending the other event for any particular college in question. Possibly one of those HC coaches has already seen your son and it may be beneficial for your son to be seen by the RC coach (for example) of the same school. Just...
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Re: Showball Camp vs Headfirst Camp Same November Weekend

Ripken Fan ·
Hi Gov- As a background my son has attended both Showball Mega twice and HeadFirst once. He went to Headfirst Long Island summer before his junior year and Showball Mega December of his sophomore and junior years. The switch from December (Ft Myers) to November (Lakeland) in Showball is new. Compare the prices HF($995) for 58 coaches so far to Showball ($795) with 90 coaches. Showball Mega Camp usually has about 225 prospects, while the HF in Long Island seemed like more. I thought the...
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Re: Showball Camp vs Headfirst Camp Same November Weekend

LittleLefty ·
Have done both camps in the past. Both accomplish much of the same, perhaps HeadFirst a little more organized and do hand out a book with all coaches attending. There may also be more Assistant Coaches at Showball. Keep in mind similar schools are at Showball's Academic Camps.
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Re: Showball Camp vs Headfirst Camp Same November Weekend

Gov ·
Really appreciate the feedback guys. It threw me off that a few of the same colleges coaches were saying they'd be at both, when they are 2.5 hours apart. Fenway, I like your idea of calling the coaches and asking their suggestion for best fit. Son was able to meet and put on a good showing for Brown, Harvard, and Dartmouth coaches, and he hopes the Stanford coaches, at the recent Stanford All Star Camp. Plan is get him in front of them again soon. We opted for November HF (possibly) because...
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Re: Showball Camp vs Headfirst Camp Same November Weekend

smokeminside ·
Gov, good call on choosing November camps.
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Re: Showball Camp vs Headfirst Camp Same November Weekend

Gov ·
Smoke - what's the latest w Kai? PM me if preferred
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Re: Showball Camp vs Headfirst Camp Same November Weekend

CarolinaPanther ·
Hello all, just thought I would add in my two cents. I've had two sons (and now my softball playing daughter) go through this process. My boys attended both HF and Showball, but I will not be sending my daughter to the Showball softball camp. HF has always been better organized, and frankly, they play more baseball. If you look at their schedules, HF has more programming (2 more full games, I think). This extra time with these coaches is vital. HF also had coaches talk to the entire camp...
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Re: Headfirst Honor Roll Credit for 2020 available half price + finder's fee (injury circumstance)

keewart ·
I am sorry about your son's injury. This is very generous of you!
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Re: Headfirst Honor Roll Credit for 2020 available half price + finder's fee (injury circumstance)

fenwaysouth ·
Ed - I hope your son is healthy soon. That is a very generous offer. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!
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Re: Headfirst Honor Roll Credit for 2020 available half price + finder's fee (injury circumstance)

Ripken Fan ·
Ed- Sorry to hear about your son and I hope he heals soon. This is a very thoughtful gesture. For those "lurkers" out there whose son's are pursuing the HA schools, take Ed up on his offer- HF is really a worthwhile showcase for that niche of school.
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Re: Headfirst Honor Roll Credit for 2020 available half price + finder's fee (injury circumstance)

Zia2021 ·
Ed H, I'm so sorry to hear about your son. I might be interested in using the credit. I'll send you a PM.
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Re: Headfirst Honor Roll Credit for 2020 available half price + finder's fee (injury circumstance)

used2lurk ·
Did ANYONE ever hear back from Ed H? I PM'd him within hours of this original post and have heard nothing...
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Re: Headfirst Honor Roll Credit for 2020 available half price + finder's fee (injury circumstance)

Ed H. ·
Hi, all, thanks so much for the sentiments. I've been buried with holidays, so haven't tended to the email I used for the forum. I'm going in order in the replies. I'm heartened that one of you will make use of this credit....
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Re: Headfirst Honor Roll Credit for 2020 available half price + finder's fee (injury circumstance)

Ed H. ·
FYI, the credit has been taken. Wish all of you the best with players and ball this coming season.
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Re: Headfirst Partnering with Blast Motion in 2020

JCG ·
My son's college (HA D3) is starting to use Blast Motion this season. I can imagine that for schools that are already using it with their players, having this data for HF campers could be really useful.
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Re: Headfirst Partnering with Blast Motion in 2020

Headfirst Honor Roll Camp ·
From talking with our friends in the college coaching/recruiting ranks, that's exactly what we're hoping and expecting. Many programs are either already using Blast, or are looking to move onto it in the near future - so having the same data and metrics on their recruits that these coaches have on their players should really be able to help them make good recruiting decisions with a high level of confidence. There's a huge appetite from these coaches for this data to use in their recruiting...
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Re: Headfirst Partnering with Blast Motion in 2020

Dominik85 ·
As a showcase you definitely have to offer swing sensor data in these days.
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Re: Headfirst Partnering with Blast Motion in 2020

Headfirst Honor Roll Camp ·
We couldn't agree more! Our aim is to give coaches everything that they need to effectively and efficiently recruit student-athletes, so that they can make immediate strides and see results in their recruiting process at our camps and in the days/weeks following.
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

smokeminside ·
Academics first....how has your son's search turned out if you don't mind my asking?
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

AZCollegeBallDad ·
My son had a very similar issue. He was a low 70's rhp late in his sophomore year. He went to throwing experts: Texas Baseball Ranch, AZ Baseball Ranch, and 212 Athlete to overcome his throwing issues, and develop a throw-training program that he could continue to work on. In 16 months his velo increased 12-14 mph. This is where I would put your money. Build the velo, then build the relationships one-by-one with the college coaches, at the schools that he is interested in. He attended...
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

Branson Baseball ·
Your son has a great academic record! He's a fit academically for many, many schools...easily. Both Headfirst and Stanford have an extensive number of D1 and D3 academic schools. Either (or both) camps are a fit academically from my experience with our 2012 and this year with our 2016. Go to the camps/showcases where his schools are attending. Likely both of these camps could fit if his list is a national list of top D1 and D3 academic schools. The primary challenge I see based on your post...
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

AcademicsFirst ·
Thanks Branson....yeah, that is what I was afraid of. Not sure it would be worth the $1k to send him to HeadFirst if he's still under 80mph. Wouldn't do a lot of good to spend that kind of money if he won't draw any Interest. Maybe just pick a few individual college camps and go to them. I think 78mph and 155-160 is a possibility by summer, but not sure if that wld spur any interest from schools like Tufts, Emory, or Liberal Arts schools like Haverford, Amherst or Middlebury, etc. i was even...
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

BOF ·
The Stanford camp is not only about being seen and getting on the radar, but it is a learning experience about what college baseball is all about, living in a dorm, etc. For the value I would recommend Stanford over Headfirst. You can do a search here and see all kinds of information on both of them. I would also look into the Academic Game at the Arizona Fall Classic. He may not make the team but just trying out and getting on their list will get him exposure. You are actually in a great...
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

BOF ·
Here is the D3 map. I believe there is a more better one than this. BishopLeftysdad would have it. Gives you a good visual on where the schools are. https://maps.google.com/maps/m...b3b44&dg=feature
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

infielddad ·
I am going to come at this pretty directly. While I am a huge fan of the Stanford Camp, I would be concerned that, with its size and your son's velocity, he could get lost. On the schools listed, it seems unlikely to me that most of them are a baseball fit. CLU, P-P, Emory, Tufts, etc. and baseball for your son, at this level, seems remote. However, as BOF noted, there are top academic schools which most of us in CA. would be accused of calling fly over schools to get from our coast to the...
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

fenwaysouth ·
Well said infieldad.....well said. I believe that is golden advice. I would attend the event that your son has the best chance to stand-out, and I don't think that is the Stanford camp. HeadFirst is more focused on traditional D3 schools. In the long run, he'll have some academic options but it would be nice to expand that universe and add some baseball in the mix as well. In addition, for some of the elite academic schools with low admissions rates your son will want beyond 1900. He needs a...
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

MidAtlanticDad ·
AcademicsFirst, I would have your son do some research on the LHPs who are currently getting innings at the DIIIs he's interested in. Some will have Perfect Game profiles with their high school ht/wt and velocity numbers. He might even find some guys who have numbers similar to his. Of course, he'll have to dig a little deeper to find out how those guys have progressed since high school, but it will give him some context. His expectations of playing time are also a factor. His academics...
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

cabbagedad ·
Be aware that many D3 academics carry large rosters and/or JV teams. Tuition is typically expensive and many coaches aren't shy about encouraging lots of academically qualified kids to attend their school and try out for the program even if they are only marginally qualified from a baseball standpoint. If getting playing time is important to your son, make sure he has detailed discussions with each coach as to what his realistic chances are.
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

BOF ·
There is such a wealth of information here. Great stuff guys. Infielddad's advice is spot on. The other thing to consider is the schools pitching program. My son's program routinely takes marginal D1 kids and develop's them into draft picks. What a lot of people may not see is that it also takes borderline D3 kids and develops them into solid contributors.You get that in D3 ball because of the larger rosters. They get there of course by their own hard work, which is in the weight room,...
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

AcademicsFirst ·
Thanks everyone...I knew I would get some great advice on here. The baseball team has a strength coach that works with them...as for his mechanics, he works out with a private coach and usually attends most of Jaegers camps. Bottom line is if he gets admitted to a school like UCLA, Hopkins, or Georgetown, he will probably go...and will just attempt to walk-on so he has some closure in his own mind. I don't see him deciding to go to some no-name school just for baseball. He has worked hard to...
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

infielddad ·
AF, at the time our son got recruited, the D3 program was an absolutely "no name" to us and most everyone in his school It was also a "no name" to what turned out to be his roommate, recruited from Northridge. Our son went on to be drafted from the D3. His roommate is now with the FBI. The school's baseball program is now the top ranked program in D3, thanks in part to the contribution of BOF's son.. I think I understand what you might have meant about name recognition but it is also the...
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

like2rake ·
AF - Go attend an Oxy and/or CMS game, take a look at the lefty pitchers, hopefully someone will be in the stands with a good radar gun. You might be very surprised at the true velocities....sub 80 MPH for lefties is not uncommon. There are very successful LHP in the Northwest Conference, even guys who made the All Conference team, who top out in games maybe at 81 - 82. The key is great location, movement, changing speeds, and maybe a funky delivery/arm slot. Good luck and keep at it!!
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

AcademicsFirst ·
Definitely no disrespect meant Infield. Yes, I probably get too caught up in the rankings myself and only think of the big names, I myself graduated from Northridge, so I know it's not all about the name. its just so much to think about. We were at OU this summer visiting my dad and went on a tour. He can get $8k/yr in merit aid which would make OU cheaper than going in-state, but as much as I love Norman, he wouldn't play baseball at that level and part of me would like to see him strive...
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

BOF ·
UCDavis is a great school, and is at the bottom of the BigWest, however they are recruiting as high a level D1 player they can find. Infielddad knows as much about the program as any since his son coached there. I would not waste too much time considering them from a baseball, perspective. His target schools should be based on what major he is interested in, what you describe could be a number of the Maryland area schools, Washington College leading the pack. Fenwaysouth and some others...
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Re: Headfirst? Stanford Camp? Unsure

cabbagedad ·
And BOF's post brings up another consideration... college club baseball. Schools such as Stanford, Cal Poly, Davis, UCSB, St Mary's, Cal, UCSD have club teams. This may be a great option if he has a challenging major and one of those schools happens to be a fit. http://www.clubbaseball.org/Teams.aspx
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Re: D1 Recruiting Rule Changes

TPM ·
See topic "NCAA announce re fruiting rule changes" already in discussion.
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Re: D1 Recruiting Rule Changes

JeffnNYC ·
Thanks, and sorry to have missed it.
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Re: Recruiting Catchers

c2019 ·
I agree with camps and showcases and only having catchers to catch the pitchers - i have see a ton of it - but what are your sons - pop, Arm velo - TBH - it’s very hard to for a catcher to get playing time - even being really good if you don’t hit well - I’ve seen it at all levels including pro. But in college if he wants to play D1 - which shouldn’t always be the goal , he needs to work on hitting also - most people work on framing and blocking - and forget hitting . You have to to both .
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