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Buckeye 2015 ·
It's hard to answer your questions...as there is no one answer for all of them. I think everyone has seen it.....a kid who doesn't have that "wow" factor getting offers before our sons who have done everything they can and don't get overwhelmed with offers...or the offers come later than we had hoped. My son was one of those kids....we saw others getting offers...and wondered why he hadn't gotten any....even though he had serious interest from a couple schools who had been making an effort...
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JCG ·
I'm assuming your son has a plan B. If not, he needs to get one ASAP.
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rynoattack ·
Really good song by David Lee Murphy - If the Fish Ain't Bitin'! (The chorus goes, "What kinda bait you got on the hook?" If the D-1's aren't calling by now, you still have a chance, but the chance is infinitely smaller than it would have been this last fall. You are most likely fishing in the wrong waters, because your bait is not working. Do as PO said and cast a wider net!
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MidAtlanticDad ·
BP23, talent is 99% of the equation for most college baseball coaches . The other things (social, grades, references, etc) are all just tie-breakers. Don't get me wrong, tie-breakers are important, especially if you're at the same talent level as lots of other guys. I don't mean to be negative, but if he hasn't talked to any schools that were excited about the prospect of him attending, at this late date, then he's not talking to the right schools. At this point his options are more limited...
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Iowamom23 ·
Formula has to be — reach out to as many coaches at as many different levels that you even might be interested in. Send them a short email and a video and see what comes back. I would advise though against thinking that JUCO is somehow easier than D1 for recruiting. In most cases, our experience was that kids looking at JUCO were going there as a way to prepare for D1, either academically or athletically, not because they couldn't have played at a D2 or D3. If your son is truly willing to...
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cabbagedad ·
I agree with the sentiment of others and will try not to beat a dead horse too much. I will say this happens to way more players than folks realize... good players, capable of playing at some college level, taking all the right steps, good students, etc., etc..... just not quite good enough to convince a college coach that he will be the sure bet contributor that warrants offering some of the program's precious scholy $ - more so than others he has seen. As far as advice (considering the...
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TPM ·
Baseballparent23 you have a pm.
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BaseballParent23 ·
Wow, thanks for all the feedback. He did ramp things up (started casting that wider net) a few months ago, end of summer, after him and his teammates realized that the coaches from their travel team weren't doing anything to help them. They told them all season they were making phone calls and then nothing. Only 2 scouts ever came to watch their team the entire summer season. They told all the boys there were a couple of D2s in South Carolina where they had connections and then the season...
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FriarFred ·
My advice to anyone out there looking is do not EVER rely on anyone else to "help" with your recruiting. The player needs to take the lead and then if and when you get help from coaches etc., that is the icing on the cake. I read on here once to forget about the numbers/letters... Doesnt matter if D1, 2, 3, JUCO, NAIA or anything else. Dont get caught up in the numbers. Cast a very wide net both geographically and educationally, find the right fit and take the lead in your recruitment.
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TPM ·
Excellent advice friarfred!
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Teaching Elder ·
I'd like an unbiased. If you're feeling generous.
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cabbagedad ·
I'd be happy to do so, Teach
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Buckeye 2015 ·
Baseballparent23.....if the D2 that he likes is local (no travel expense) and is having a camp next week, I'd say it's absolutely not a waste of money. A camp at a school, especially one that's local and has had conversations with your son is a REALLY good way to get in front of the coaches again. I'd suggest emailing them and letting them know he's coming and see what kind of reply he gets. I think their reply will give you a pretty good idea of what they have in mind with regard to him. If...
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rynoattack ·
I would go to the local D-2 Camp. He's interested, he's been told he has D-2 talent, sounds like a good place to explore.
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Midwest Mom ·
Good luck to your son! Let us know how it turns out.
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BaseballParent23 ·
Thanks Buckeye, I emailed the local D2 about their camp, the recruiting coach that I met last week at another showcase to get a feel for if they thought it was good for him to go and he sent back a very encouraging reply. He said my son should definitely come to the camp. One thing I have discussed with my son is keeping the door open, even if he goes to a JUCO now, he may end up trying to come back to the D2 later. So, son was feeling rejected and reluctant to go, but after all that he...
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Chicago643 ·
I would hope they are bigger than that. Any discussion you have with that school should be about your son and the school, not other players. Anyone buy the kid an alarm clock? I know everyone uses their phones now for that.
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Buckeye 2015 ·
I wouldn't be too concerned about that....your son will get looked at on his own...not what his friend did. As far as his friend....I don't know many kids who got suspended for a month for being late to a couple morning workouts.....there's gotta more that you're not hearing lol. Good luck to your son
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TPM ·
This particular player may have an NLI, so there is so much you can and cant do, but he may be on a short lease. Being late to workouts is a cardinal sin to some coaches. Baseballparent23, don't worry about anyone else but your son. Son imposed a rule on his pitchers. If you are late don't bother showing up, tomorrow the entire team will run while you watch. Sounds weird huh? It only happened to that one player last year in the fall. End of story!
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joes87 ·
Your son should be the emailing the coach. It will reflect a lot better on him if he is doing it and not his mom or dad.
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TPM ·
Agree.
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Iowamom23 ·
My 2018 had a similar issue, except his friend went to an out of state D2 for one semester and transferred after getting picked up for two DUIs and possession while underage. Coach still offered my son. Coaches never seemed,d to make blanket assumptions.
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BaseballParent23 ·
Yes, totally agree, that's not my place. My 2018 is good about speaking with the coaches, especially that school. My question to the school was regarding my younger son, and the coach (assistant coach in charge of the camp) offered the statement about seeing both of my boys. My younger one is going to do his first camp. It will be fun to see them on the same field. It's only happened once during fall when the HS JV fall team that my 2022/8th grader was allowed to play with was mixed in with...
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Re: Best Details about Exposure?

#1 Assistant Coach ·
You've come to the right place. Sure you will get a lot of advice. Remember, exposure TO and interest FROM coaches is not a cause/effect relationship. Exposure TO, is something you can definitely control, but the interest FROM is out of your hands.
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BaseballCoach2 ·
Alright thanks. Hoping to get a few answers soon
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fenwaysouth ·
BaseballCoach2, College baseball is pretty vast. Let's not try to boil the ocean all at once. Let's start with something a little more manageable and targeted.....what does your son want to do, what is he capable of doing and who do you think will be interested in his skills? If you can answer those questions it gives the board a starting point. BTW...don't concern yourself with other's receiving offers at this time. It's really not worth your time thinking about it.
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BaseballCoach2 ·
Academically he's an A-B normal with about a 4.0. But athletically He's capable of being an all-conference and all-district player if he continues to work. He wants to play college baseball and even beyond that if given the opportunity regardless of what level it may be. He's more of a contact and speed rather than a power player. I don't know if that means much to coaches so that's where I'm kind of lost. I know he won't just come straight off the bat with D 1's so I'm guessing just the...
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CaCO3Girl ·
I realize this is a baseball site but I have to open up the academic discussion since Fenway tried but it was overlooked. While playing baseball should be a consideration it should not be the primary consideration. What does your son want to be when he grows up if the baseball thing doesn't work out? Someone who wants to be a teacher may go to a very different school than someone who wants to be an engineer. I know most of our kids don't want to consider that baseball will end for them...
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standballdad ·
Sounds like a smart kid. Does he have an idea where he wants to go to school academically? Casting a wide net in hopes of catching interest is a crap shoot unless he has strong tools. I would make a list of colleges that he would like to attend and start a campaign of emailing those coaches to start the process. What position does your son play? and what are his measurebles? You also need to be realistic in your sons abilities whatever they are.
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joes87 ·
The 2018s and 2019s you see committing are mostly outliers. The big recruiting year is the year after your junior year of HS ball. It doesn't hurt to get exposure before then, but most of the attention at exposure events will be focused on the incoming HS seniors. I have a 2017 and we are fortunate that we are in a very good program designed to get kids exposure. My biggest advice would be to take a hard look at your travel program. Make sure you are in one designed to get kids exposure.
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BaseballCoach2 ·
Oh okay. Thanks. He's talked about wanting to be a physical therapist or something in the field of sports medicine once he gets older. I know that some of the kid's change their minds about what they want to be when they get older as they progress through school. He has made a brief list of schools that coincide with the path he wants to take. I'll remind him that it's not always 100% baseball and academics do come first because he seems to get carried away. Thanks alot once again.
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BOF ·
Welcome. It is not too early and in fact the next two summers are critical for your son. Start with CACO3GIRL's assessment of what his academic interest are and then merge that with baseball. You need to get an independent assessment of his projected baseball skill level and then build a plan around the two elements, academic and baseball. Make up a list of 25-35 schools that fit the profile and start researching, use the USNews, and other college ranking books to get a good profile of what...
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BaseballCoach2 ·
Okay thanks. I really appreciate it.
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CaCO3Girl ·
A teenage boy got carried away thinking about his baseball dreams??? NO WAY!!!! LOL, just keep being the voice inside his head telling him to focus. It has been said by many on this board that baseball ends for everyone eventually, some sooner than they wish due to injury or life in general getting in the way. While it is great to shoot for the stars eventually he will come back to earth and live a life that doesn't center around baseball. THAT is why choosing a school based on academics or...
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Goosegg ·
"I have a 2020 and I took him through Manhattan after Cooperstown just to walk around the streets of New York. To say he HATED it is a massive understatement. He's a Georgia boy who loves baseball and wants to play in College but the city buildings, the smell, the lack of nature, just the vibe of the city in general made him very uncomfortable. Inner City Colleges will be off his list no matter what the baseball program is like." Its never too early to begin creating college possibility...
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pabaseballdad ·
very good advice above. I'll echo and try to stress the importance of creating a target list of schools - based on whatever criteria is important to your son- location, city, rural, big, small etc. and choosing the right type of travel team that will get you exposed to those schools. I've seen kids in our area play for legion, or some travel team a dad put together, no colleges see them play, and everyone wonders why they aren't getting noticed by colleges.
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Buckeye 2015 ·
We started emailing potential schools the fall after my son's sophomore season (actually sat watching the World Series while shooting out emails). He had hopes of playing D1...but at that point he was still the smallest/youngest kid in his class and didn't "look like" a D1 kid, though he was capable of playing with any kids his age...even some who already had D1 interest. He emailed about 40 possible choices. D1's from a 3 state area (not the Power 5 schools...we knew they likely were out of...
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fenwaysouth ·
BaseballCoach2, Ok, so you've been given some great advice about the importance of academics and academic fit with college baseball. We've only scratched that surface, as that can be a whole separate long discussion by itself. Your sons take away should be took look at physical therapy (or similar majors) schools in the context of baseball. You can get a listing of majors by school, location and other dynamics here: http://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/ The good news is your son shouldn't...
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Buckeye 2015 ·
A couple good points about exposure and travel teams. My son played on a very good team at 15U and 16U. Myself and another coach had put it together....just kids from NW Ohio that we personally knew or had met over the previous 4 or 5 summers. We carried 12 to 13 kids most of the time. Of those kids, there are now guys pitching in the ACC, B1G and MAC (2) with other playing at all levels throughout Ohio and Michigan...10 of the 13 are playing in college. Funny thing is, we played in the best...
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

Teaching Elder ·
If you want answers you will need to rephrase your question in such a manner as to give people the chance to tell us all how great THEIR kid is.
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keewart ·
If you share with us "the mistakes that have held you back in the recruiting process", maybe we can go from there. Are you keeping coaches up to date of your travel schedule and game times/locations each week? You are not hearing from the D1s because they HAVE stopped recruiting for the class of 2018. There may be walk on positions left, but I would focus on D3s. A great public D3 in VA is Christopher Newport. Public D3s are hard to find in our area, and there are very few D2s with baseball.
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keewart ·
Another public D3 with baseball is University of Mary Washington.
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JCG ·
This comment seems to be quite bitter, but I am sure it's just facetious.
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D1__ ·
As far as mistakes I believe that I didn't seek out a better travel program to play with until this year, previously I played with a mediocre team that didn't help me develop or get exposure, another mistake would be not making a high quality recruiting video like others that i know, and lastly I'd say my training I've played Varsity since freshman year and as soon as I got there my High School coach was serious about baseball players not lifting weights so for my first and second years of...
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Goosegg ·
What are your grades and scores? Whatever those are, identify the schools which would recruit a player with your academic profile. Then, evaluate which of those schools recruit players who you believe have equal or less baseball skills than yours. That subset (the point at which a school(s) finds its way onto both lists) are the total schools with whom you would have a shot. Factor in your financial ability to pay and your geographic limitations (if any) and the list winnows down further. Of...
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D1__ ·
Thank you that helps a lot, appreciate it.
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JCG ·
Not a huge fan of prospect camps in general but once you have followed Goosegg's excellent suggestions it might be smart to invest in camps at any schools that fit your list. We have known a couple kids who have gotten offers this way.
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baseballmom ·
While I agree with Goose' really good outline, I wouldn't pooh-pooh the JUCO that is interested just yet. Find out where those players feed into. There is nothing wrong with 1-2 yrs at a JUCO, as long as it's heading you in the right direction. Make sure all/most the credits transfer.
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Prepster ·
You admit to having made a few tactical mistakes along the way; but, you are to be roundly commended for taking overall responsibility for your recruitment. I've always felt that too many players were willing to acquiesce to their parents' inclination to step in and run their son's process. In your case, you're demonstrating a great deal about your "makeup" that will mean something to many of the recruiters who are given an opportunity to know that you have it. Your self-drive and...
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rynoattack ·
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