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Chesterfield Prospect Camp

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Catcher Skills

Wesleythecacther ·
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdHr6JAOE2s   Here is a link to my video from Baseball Factory. Here is a link to my Baseball Factory page: http://members.baseballfactory...er/_/109066/#member/   Can I have any catching advice, more on...
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redbird5 ·
Wesley, As a 16 year old, you have a good base to work with. I would recommend three things immediately: 1. Lose the Knee Savers. This should allow you to get lower in your stance. Also along that line...get more flexible in your hip flexors. Take a yoga class. You have a pretty good sized frame and you will need to present a low target at times. Flexibility is very important. 2. Find a long toss or arm strengthening/stabilizing program. We use Jamie Evans' Velo-City (...
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CaCO3Girl ·
Has your velocity been clocked on your throw down?
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standballdad ·
Originally Posted by redbird5: Wesley, As a 16 year old, you have a good base to work with. I would recommend three things immediately: 1. Lose the Knee Savers. This should allow you to get lower in your stance. Also along that line...get more flexible in your hip flexors. Take a yoga class. You have a pretty good sized frame and you will need to present a low target at times. Flexibility is very important. 2. Find a long toss or arm strengthening/stabilizing program. We use Jamie Evans'...
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Wesleythecacther ·
Originally Posted by CaCO3Girl: Has your velocity been clocked on your throw down? I have been clocked at 75 mph.
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Wesleythecacther ·
Originally Posted by standballdad: Originally Posted by redbird5: Wesley, As a 16 year old, you have a good base to work with. I would recommend three things immediately: 1. Lose the Knee Savers. This should allow you to get lower in your stance. Also along that line...get more flexible in your hip flexors. Take a yoga class. You have a pretty good sized frame and you will need to present a low target at times. Flexibility is very important. 2. Find a long toss or arm...
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Re: Pop times/HS teams

PGStaff ·
Ben, Sounds like you have a lot of talent. Keep working and you will end up playing a lot. Louise, You are right, the number one most important thing is receiving the ball. If you can't do that you won't get very far as a catcher. However, there are lots of catchers that are good at receiving the ball. Then they are separated by their other abilities, which throwing and release is a big difference maker.
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Ben Salk ·
Thankyou.
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CaCO3Girl ·
Hey Ben, sounds like everything is on track but it really depends who is above you. Don't just restrict yourself to the catcher spot, make sure the coach knows that is your primary but you are willing to play where ever the coach needs you to play. The number one thing my son's coach looks for in a catcher is the bat, the second is the speed in which he gets the ball AFTER it gets passed him. make sure you can scramble quickly, some of those HS backstops are beyond brutal!
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Golfman25 ·
Plus beware of the coach who will take a player who played a different position and "convert" to a catcher. Make sure you can adjust and hit.
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CaCO3Girl ·
And a pitcher who doesn't telegraph that he's throwing to the plate would help with those outs at second!
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Truman ·
I don't see why not. And you can achieve a lot by working hard at it. Why not shoot for Varsity? I know is a rare thing in most cases, but it doesn't hurt to set the bar high and work to try and achieve it. And I know that at your age when you look at Varsity players they look large, strong and intimidating. And they are large and strong compared to your age group. But that doesn't mean you can compete at their level. Your body is just starting to mature that way, so just be aware that...
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Golfman25 ·
You're young yet. POP's look ok at 80 foot bases -- I'm thinking it would be just over 2.0 on 90 foot. So keep working. Most JV level catchers are in the 2's for pop. Work on your receiving skills -- get your pitchers strikes. And hit the snot out of the ball. You seem to be on the right track. Good luck.
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ironhorse ·
Study the game. I need a SMART catcher as much or more than I need a 2.0 pop time. I can handle a dumb 1st baseman, but I need intelligence, or savvy, behind the plate. You're in charge of the biggest decisions out there. Be a student of the game first and foremost.
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Mom12=3 ·
I think alot of this also depends on how good your high school baseball teams are. We have many freshman in our school district who play JV and also a few who play Varsity as a freshman. But that being said, our baseball program is not the best in the district. We have many talented players but for various other reasons, the program is not successful.
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2017LHPscrewball ·
Passed balls should be a rarity - the equivalent of an error by an infielder. More important would be the ability to corral a wild pitch (those pitches which are not controllable with ordinary effort). Once you get passed both of these (treat them as prerequisites) the catcher needs to be able to control the base paths and therefore must be able to throw out runners. I'm sure if that opposing catcher had a 1.7 pop time but had several passed balls, a coach may be able to coach him up on...
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Louise ·
Maybe some of you can answer this question that I was thinking about as I was watching my son's team last week....why is the number of passed balls a catcher allows in a season not a statistic people seem to be interested in? Why is it all about pop time? The catcher on the team we were playing allowed many passed balls and every time our players moved up a base (even stole home one time). I was thinking that it did not matter what this catcher's pop time was if our team was getting so many...
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standballdad ·
Not only that, pitchers that are 1.5 or higher to the plate are doing their catcher a disservice.
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Pop times/HS teams

Ben Salk ·
Hey everyone I am 13 years old and I am a catcher. I am just wondering if at my level I have a chance to play JV baseball as a freshman. I can throw pop times down to second on 80 foot paths in the low 1.9's and hopefully 1.8's by the end of the season. I have good good blocking and receiving skills, and hit pretty well. I am batting like .500-.600 in JR's. I am only in 7th grade so I still have about a year and half till the season would start up but I am wondering if at my rate I have a...
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Golfman25 ·
Because pop time is easy to measure and compare.
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Ben Salk ·
Louise, Pop time to me is not that important as long as I throw out runners which I do. It is just a statistic to see where you are. Just like a 60 yard dash time most will probably not run that same speed but it shows if you need help or if when you out by a defending player he just has a good arm.
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MidAtlanticDad ·
Passed balls for a catcher are like errors for a SS or wild pitches for a pitcher... not that important of a stat unless they're really bad. They can distinguish you on the negative side, but not so much on the positive side. I think the definition includes the phase "ordinary effort". Are you sure the opposing catcher was giving up passed balls, or was he just not very good at corralling wild pitches?
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Backstop22 ·
One other important thing about passed balls/wild pitches is if the pitcher does not throw the pitch that is called and crosses up the catcher. Most times those will be scored against the catcher as a passed ball because they often hit the tip or part of the catcher's mitt. But really that one should be on the pitcher, and many people watching a HS game with no replay have no idea the catcher was crossed up and blame him. I agree the catcher's fundamental job is to catch pitches. But the...
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PWPW ·
Also college coaches figure they can teach a catcher to block and receive pretty easy. Arm strength on the other hand is harder to coach.
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Dominik85 ·
I agree. A catcher who can throw out runners is a plus but at the HS Level I would be very happy as a Coach to have a catcher that blocks everything and knows how to Play the game. If you can hit a Little that helps too. of course you should work on your Pop time but most catchers lose way more runs through wild pitches/passed balls, throwing Errors and maybe even dropped third strikes than they gain through throwing out runners. of course to Play college you Need to throw out runners but I...
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CollegeParentNoMore ·
"Maybe some of you can answer this question that I was thinking about as I was watching my son's team last week....why is the number of passed balls a catcher allows in a season not a statistic people seem to be interested in? " Passed ball or wild pitch? This statistic is not very helpful because 1) most HS scorekeepers can't consistently identify either, and or the/coach or scorekeeper changes the scoring for other reasons. AND/OR 2) A catcher working with a strong pitching staff will have...
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Golfman25 ·
Kids mom made this observation. Little Johnny is a much better catcher when the pitchers are good.
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2forU ·
Don't let anyone tell you pop time does not matter, it's all that matters. I don't believe that, but I'm not the ones recruiting. No ones going to teach blocking 92mph wild pitches, you have to just react and the only way that happens is if you have been doing it all your life. Keep up your blocking, work hard on framing, and work hardest on ball velocity. Good luck!
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c2019 ·
Ben , As speaking from experience , my son started this past season at Varsity as a freshman in 29 games , he started at the 8th spot in the line up then moved to the 2nd and 5th spot mid season, and ended up at the 3rd spot in our Region game, most of the advice is true, you have to work hard , you must treat framing and blocking like a art(take pride)! I wasn't so much on pop time for my son , as I was for arm Strength, he was @ 80 mph from the chute, don't know what the pop time is, ill...
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Dominik85 ·
I'm not sure that it matters all that much. a bounced throw by the SS is not an error by the 1B but still coaches expect the 1B to pick pitches. of course many wild pitches are not catchable at all but a good catcher will still catch more of those borderline wild pitches. what matters in the end is how many pitches go to the backstop and I think a Coach can judge that quite well no matter how the scorer scores it. for example a pitch that bounces 2 feet left of the plate would be a wild...
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POP TIME HELP NEEDED

Wesleythecacther ·
Here is a link to video that I took today: https://youtu.be/LYaIejiLi30 Any advice for catching? I felt like my throws were good and quick, but I timed them at 2.2, nothing below 2.0 which I think I can get. Any advice for mechanics?
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CollegeParentNoMore ·
The video camera is a mile away. Try shooting closer from the 1st dugout side so all your mechanics can be clearly seem. Edit to exclude the standing around time, take more time to recover between throws.
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Buckeye 2015 ·
Again, the footwork isn't bad....but the video overall is of absolutely no use to you....though the camera angle from there is much better than from behind 2nd. Throwing to a net just doesn't work....you just can't get an idea of where the throws really are. I wouldn't bother doing another one until you can have a player at 2nd catching your throws. Heck, have your little sister or brother stand off to the side 5-10 feet away and throw to you...and let the kid in the video (looks like he can...
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Buckeye 2015 ·
The camera behind you was ok....much better than the one from out by 2nd base
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thanks for the glove movement tip, will work on it. As for the helping of the video shooting, I will try to get help. Hard to have people that will help you when they want to do other things. Where do you suggest that I have the camera at? I have it set up on a tripod and can't have anyone hold it.
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thanks for the reply. I am working on arm strength. Lifting now until March. I got more video today on a grass field. Will post the link ASAP.
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Buckeye 2015 ·
I don't see any more than maybe 2 of those being at 2.2.....your arm strength is a major issue at this point if you're hoping to really cut your pop times down. A few of those throws are 12-15' high when they cross the pitchers mound.....you need to be throwing them at or a foot above his head. Work on that and your POP times will come down. Your footwork doesn't look bad on the throws that the pitcher gave you that you could work with....it's all an arm issue right now. Once you get that...
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thank you, I got more video today. Will post the link.
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Wesleythecacther ·
Here is the newest video from today: https://youtu.be/zsUPiB4vYcs Sadly some of my best throws were not included due to my phone running out of storage.
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CollegeParentNoMore ·
See angle for throws to 2nd. Everything the catcher does with his hands and feet can be clearly seen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbHhW35Lkt8
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Wesleythecacther ·
Okay, thank you. Now here is another question. What is the order of importance of catching skills? Like numbered, what would receiving, blocking, throwing, game calling, pitcher relationships, and etc be in order of importance?
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Consultant ·
Welsey; you should focus on the "role of a catcher' . Arm strength is only one phase and their are several methods to adjust. During infield speed up your throws to the bases, move in the front of the plate. QUICK RELEASE! as I have mentioned you can warm up with a teammate by catching the ball off the heal of the mitt for quick transfer. 1. calling the game. "read the bat" 2. read the runner. when is stealing " is his right toe point to second base 3. know your pitcher, give him signs for...
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Consultant ·
WHEN WE PLAY INTERNATIONALLY OR AT COLLEGE., they all equal for the team to WIN! after all isn't winning or losing? Bob.
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2forU ·
My opinion, your throwing hand should not be at your cup, but behind the glove. When you receive the ball, let the ball momentum, with the guidance of your left arm guide the ball and the glove up towards your right shoulder while rotating the glove, so that your hand can simply grab the ball and release (this is a quicker way to get the arm into the throwing position). The ball has to cooperate (meaning your pitcher needs to target better for video). Also, get your pitchers phone to record...
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CatsPop ·
Just asked my catcher Wesley, he said: Receiving, Pitcher Relationship, Game Calling, Blocking and then Throwing. He thinks Receiving is 85% of what catcher does, Blocking 10% + Throwing 5%.
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thank you for the advice! I will look at other posts and use the advice I've gotten in here.
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thanks For the link, will check it out for sure. Wish I spent more time doing stuff instead of being on here, but I need the help.
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Wesleythecacther ·
I might have been looking at the wrong book then, lol
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2forU ·
Search this site for velocity. you will find programs geared to throwing velocity. Kyle Boddy, Eric Cressey come to mind. Advanced Baseball in Burke VA has a great velocity program - you can check them out on the web (weighted balls (light, normal, heavy and body training, etc.) You can train your swing there as well. You can greatly improve your stick and release with some of the suggestions that have been made in your posts - the quick release as an example. If I remember correctly from...
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