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POP TIME HELP NEEDED

Wesleythecacther ·
Here is a link to video that I took today: https://youtu.be/LYaIejiLi30 Any advice for catching? I felt like my throws were good and quick, but I timed them at 2.2, nothing below 2.0 which I think I can get. Any advice for mechanics?
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Pop times/HS teams

Ben Salk ·
Hey everyone I am 13 years old and I am a catcher. I am just wondering if at my level I have a chance to play JV baseball as a freshman. I can throw pop times down to second on 80 foot paths in the low 1.9's and hopefully 1.8's by the end of the season. I have good good blocking and receiving skills, and hit pretty well. I am batting like .500-.600 in JR's. I am only in 7th grade so I still have about a year and half till the season would start up but I am wondering if at my rate I have a...
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POP Time, 1.88 good?

CurryNC ·
My son is a junior, class of 2018. He has been the starting varsity catcher for the last two years, starting catcher for our local American Legion Team and Fall High School team. His POP time is 1.88 and fielding percentage is .997. He caught all 29 games this past 2017 spring varsity season. He is wanting to go to the next level and play in college. I have included a video. My question is, what is considered a good POP time for catchers and could I get some feedback on this video? Thank you...
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Catching Pop Time

Wesleythecacther ·
Need some help, tips, advice for my throws to second. I was thinking that I should be throwing under 2.0 to the bag, but I am not from what I saw of my recent video that I got of myself. any advice, mechanically, etc. on what to do? What could I be doing wrong? There is the link to my video on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RavimeYq3Ig
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Catcher Skills

Wesleythecacther ·
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdHr6JAOE2s   Here is a link to my video from Baseball Factory. Here is a link to my Baseball Factory page: http://members.baseballfactory...er/_/109066/#member/   Can I have any catching advice, more on...
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Chesterfield Prospect Camp

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redbird5 ·
Wesley, As a 16 year old, you have a good base to work with. I would recommend three things immediately: 1. Lose the Knee Savers. This should allow you to get lower in your stance. Also along that line...get more flexible in your hip flexors. Take a yoga class. You have a pretty good sized frame and you will need to present a low target at times. Flexibility is very important. 2. Find a long toss or arm strengthening/stabilizing program. We use Jamie Evans' Velo-City (...
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CaCO3Girl ·
Has your velocity been clocked on your throw down?
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standballdad ·
Originally Posted by redbird5: Wesley, As a 16 year old, you have a good base to work with. I would recommend three things immediately: 1. Lose the Knee Savers. This should allow you to get lower in your stance. Also along that line...get more flexible in your hip flexors. Take a yoga class. You have a pretty good sized frame and you will need to present a low target at times. Flexibility is very important. 2. Find a long toss or arm strengthening/stabilizing program. We use Jamie Evans'...
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Wesleythecacther ·
Originally Posted by CaCO3Girl: Has your velocity been clocked on your throw down? I have been clocked at 75 mph.
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Wesleythecacther ·
Originally Posted by standballdad: Originally Posted by redbird5: Wesley, As a 16 year old, you have a good base to work with. I would recommend three things immediately: 1. Lose the Knee Savers. This should allow you to get lower in your stance. Also along that line...get more flexible in your hip flexors. Take a yoga class. You have a pretty good sized frame and you will need to present a low target at times. Flexibility is very important. 2. Find a long toss or arm...
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Re: POP TIME HELP NEEDED

Kevin A ·
I understand this post is old but for others looking it for reference, i see a few things wrong with technique... Your getting way to vertical when you throw. Think of a sprinter...They dont stand up to run...They start out low and streamed line... When you launch....you should be doing the same... Also your sitting flat, catching the ball (getting that pop) and then starting your feet movement. You should be already moving as the ball pop's the glove. I call it "cheating". I will tell my...
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freddy77 ·
I wonder what college coaches think when they receive a recruiting video that indicates a pop time on the title page, and then proceeds to display a 1/2 dozen throws where the catcher is prematurely rising out of his receiving stance ("cheating")?
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freddy77 ·
Not to be argumentative, but when I observe this, I count it as a negative. To the bare eye, what you describe would suggest to me that the catcher is "running with the ball" --taking extra steps. I envision a catcher's jumpshift/throw/followthrough occurring within the confines of (large) phone booth. But I'm no expert. Just my 2 cents.
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Kevin A ·
My son takes one step follow through...Go "through" home plate as opposed to the side (think of falling off a mound). The video is showing the catcher standing up and lift his rear leg but not really following through...This will help generate power....
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freddy77 ·
I apologize, I didn't watch the video. ______ Edited to say: I just watched the video, and was impressed that the OP was able to get rid of the ball compactly and quickly, without cheating. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...amp;feature=youtu.be
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Kevin A ·
No problem.... And I am by far no an expert.... Just an observation...
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Buckeye 2015 ·
Coaches know "cheating" when they see it. If you're making a video DO NOT cheat and also don't put pop times you timed yourself on the video....there's no way to verify them. If you're at a showcase that has coaches watching....don't cheat so much that it's obvious. Sure your POP time will look good to the coaches who read the review the next day, but you're trying to impress the coaches who are WATCHING! You tell your kids as they are growing up...."nobody likes a cheater"....why would you...
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Kevin A ·
Your associating the word "cheat" with being dishonest. It is a word that I use to remind my son of a few items while preparing to receive. It was also taught to him by a former MLB catcher. It simply refers to shifting his body and feet AS he is receiving the ball instead of AFTER which is both legal and taught. Saying "cheat it" is easier than saying " don't forget to initiate your footwork as your receiving the ball. Don't wait". I'll also say cheat up if I thinks he's too far back or...
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Kevin A ·
Freddy- Proper technique is for the receiving to initiate as he is receiving the ball. Coaches watching this will see a catcher who has received advanced instruction. Every coach with catching experience has complimented my 14 year old on this technique... The term "cheat it" was used by a former MLB coach and we added it to our terminology.
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Buckeye 2015 ·
I wasn't associating it with breaking rules. My son has played for and trained with 3 different former MLB pitchers. He caught for one of them. They all basically said the same thing.....don't cheat because what if the pitch is in the dirt?? Quote: "you're screwed and your pitcher is mad....catch every pitch as if you expect it in the dirt"......good advice. I guess maybe you have time to initiate footwork then change your mind as a 14U kid.....but it's a lot tougher at 16U/17U when kids are...
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Kevin A ·
If the pitch is in the dirt he's blocking first..... he has time to determine if the pitch is one he is throwing down on or having to receive before initiating...and there shouldnt be any surprise pitches as he already knows what pitch he called.... And yes he is catching kids in the 80's. Our stud HS pitcher is high 80's. Not sure why this seems so difficult...
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thanks for the reply. I completely forgot about this post. I have improved and my arm strength has gotten better as I had been hitting the weight room for the past couple months. High school senior season starting Monday and I am excited. I also have committed to a D1 JuCo as of December, I signed my LoI. I will try to get newer video up sometime.
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Wesleythecacther ·
From my college recruiting experience I can tell you that they are not impressed and will want to see you in a game to see how you do.
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thanks for the reply. What does OP mean? haha. That is my video that I took months ago. I have gotten better as I have been in the weight room and my arm strength has gotten better along with mechanics.
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freddy77 ·
"initiate your footwork as you're receiving the ball." "You should be already moving as the ball pop's the glove." Kevin, Credit to your son that he's able to do this without mis-handling the pitch. I get a genuine impression that he's advanced for his age. I'm skeptical, however, that "initiate your footwork..." is good advice regarding game-throws for the typical HS catcher .
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PGStaff ·
The master... Is he cheating? Try to stop the video on first pop of catchers glove and check out his position. What would college coaches think? http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/6...don-of-a-stolen-base
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Kevin A ·
PG- What I see is he has a slightly turned body while waiting to receive. As he is receiving the ball he has already initiated his body to turn as the ball hits the mitt. In the initial posters video, he never moves till after the ball hits the mitt. This was what I was trying to get the initial poster to understand. And if I recall his video he was completely square to the pitcher during his throw downs...I would also have him in a stance where his right foot would be slightly behind the...
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GoldenGraham34 ·
Congrats on your commitment Wesley!!! That's great to hear!
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thank you! I am super excited. Just can't wait to start lifting again. Got to stop because high school season starts next week.
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Kevin A ·
https://www.catching-101.com/ cms/wp-content/uploads/2017/ 03/lucroy_warmup.gif Here is Lucroy "cheating" receiving a pitch while warming up. Freddy- Why dont you tell me what major league teams, college teams would say about it...
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freddy77 ·
I don't know about MLB or college. But I think that a typical HS catcher increases his risk of mishandling the pitch if he's coached to try to get a headstart on his jumpshift (In a game.) Especially on lower pitches.
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Re: POP Time, 1.88 good?

Kevin A ·
Trying to get a true time from a video like you presented is tough. But if he is a true and consistent 1.88 that is fantastic. Obviously accuracy is important. Blocking the biggest thing that jumps out to me is his left leg. When blocking both legs need to be behind you, the glove blocking the "5" hole and the throwing hand behind the glove. He keeps his left leg out creating a very large 5 hole and almost picking the ball as opposed to taking it in the chest. Meaning it looks like his glove...
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blhays9697 ·
It takes a lot of work to put a video together, so kudos to you for getting it together. Only non-technique comment I would suggest is it might help to add video of him catching from the side or front instead of primarily from behind the plate, even if it's not in-game and just practice. In some of the videos, the umpire blocks a lot of what you can see, especially for receiving and throw downs. The other views would allow you to emphasize catching skills and footwork.
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Batty67 ·
Great video. Well constructed and great variety of shots and angles. Good work! My son is a 2017 catcher who just finished HS baseball. Some observations: Either break the video into two videos, one for offense and one for defense, or shorten total length to say 2.5 minutes or less. As Kevin noted. The blocking technique needs work (both knees down and glove down and "inside" the knees every time unless no time or block is far off the plate, and which case a slide-pick might be better)...
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Gov ·
Yes, good pop time and good game video. What were his pop times in any showcases or camps? It's a reality check to see what his times are when he goes to an event testing his skills. Have you gone to Perfect Game and PBR sites to look at sample video of high profile catchers? Could be helpful to see what angles skills video for catchers are used. Your son looks strong and def a canon of an arm...
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Buckeye 2015 ·
I agree with a few of the comments.... 1) game video is nice, but video from the side or the pitcher (even if it's practice) would be better.....you can show him blocking 6 or 7 pitches...heck, they don't even need to be that hard, but his technique is easier viewed from the front 2) with regard to the blocking....agree that he needs to keep both knees down, but in the video, it appeared that almost every pitch he blocked was to his right...a couple probably could have been blocked with both...
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ironhorse ·
Honest feedback is that he's is nowhere near a 1.88. The best MLB catchers barely avg that. Legit awesome throws in the show are 1.8-ish. Definitely some below. Sanchez the other night was 1.83 from his knees. If I see arc in the Cs throw like your son's, it's not very likely its sub-2.0. The throws on the video I got at 2.10 and 2.19 on my stopwatch, and those aren't live game reps trying to get a strike. While I'm not saying he couldn't possibly throw 1.88 in a very controlled environment,...
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Gov ·
These are 1.8 pop times, two 2016 Catchers, ranked #1 and #2 nationally from the Midwest: Ben Rortvedt: https://www.perfectgame.org/Pl...ofile.aspx?ID=390319 Cooper Johnson: https://www.perfectgame.org/Pl...ofile.aspx?ID=375713 You should read the write ups and look at their video, and current college reports - Perspective. Cooper is a kid from our area, we've seen him in action plenty of times.
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c2019 ·
I think you meant 80 mph If he's close to or over than 1.88
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ironhorse ·
Not really. With his mechanics an 80 mph arm aint getting to 1.88. Most guys who are consistently in the 1.88 range are 90mph guys, more or less. I think a mid-80s arm could get you a "best" POP time in that range, but 1.88 wouldn't be the norm with that arm strength. Again, there are obviously exceptions, but this is my experience around here. Footwork and "mechanics" are 1/2 of the POP time, the other half is velo.
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2forU ·
Worry about the velocity that's all that matters. Coaches believe they can teach the rest.
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Kevin A ·
2forU- Bad advice. If he does have a cannon they consider a project. More likely if he can hit and has a strong arm they may move him. I didn't see a 1.88 either. he had to jump up for the ball and automatically he is out of position and not prepared with foot work, etc. I didn't want to disagree with the lady so I left it as, if he IS throwing a 1.88..... Trying not to hurt feelings..lol If you see a pop throw where the throwing little skims across the top of the mound and hits second base...
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2forU ·
Velocity is an easy disqualifier - simply the truth, you can have all the other intangibles or not, but if you do not have velocity, you won't get the opportunity. And, the higher you go, the expectations is that you have velocity and can manage the pitchers, frame and block to a higher level. Velocity is king
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CollegeParentNoMore ·
Coaches are looking for potential, show arm strength and athletic ability. Video showing him asking for help and then throwing it around are of little value as does watching him jog to backup 1st base.. As another poster suggested shoot mostly from the 1st base side so the viewer can see the glove and hand work and zoom in, the viewer doesn't care what the pitcher etc are doing. I would not show the kneeling throw downs between innings, that is just a waste of video tape and time and might...
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Batty67 ·
I'd say throwing velocity AND obvious athleticism will come out on top. For example, a tubby, slow, poor technique catcher with a cannon arm might beg the question of why isn't he a pitcher (because he ain't a catcher)? But in general, superior velocity gets a first, second, and maybe a third look. So, an unpolished catcher with questionable technique but a very strong arm and clear athleticism will likely get the nod (for college recruiting purposes) over a highly polished catcher who does...
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Gov ·
To your point of a 90 mph arm. Cooper Johnson (above PG profile with 1.8 pop) routinely threw 90+ at our facility , game velo can be different, but capability is there.
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jdb ·
I think that pointing out the importance of velocity is pointing out the obvious. However, Gov mentioned Cooper Johnson who is a true freshman, shutdown catcher at Ole Miss this year. He's their starting catcher and, at one point during the season, he had a .470 caught stealing percentage. On Cooper's Perfect Game profile he was the number 3 catcher in the nation before he graduated from high school. The profile indicates he had "consistent low 1.8 pop times on the bag, best defensive...
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JABMK ·
Velocity is a MUST or you don't get the opportunity to C at any level higher than HS. Once you get the opportunity, technique is what will separate the better C. I highly doubt a "game" pop is 1.88. If you look at a PG Video of the best C, they lunge forward to go get the ball and stride to where their lead foot is probably over the plate to make the throw to who know where it may end up. In a game, the better C will receive the ball to not give up the potential strike and then throw to the...
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3and2Fastball ·
Salvador Perez has a 1.91 pop time in games. I take it with a grain of salt whenever a pop time better than that is performed by a HS kid in a Showcase
 
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