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Re: Are College Camps Wort It?
Unless he hasn't been playing fall ball or isn't 100% right now I would go to the camps of the two schools that called him. They are 100% useful in this situation - when a coach invites personally. If nothing comes of the camp don't sweat it, just two more schools you can cross off the list for now. Considering your son has been a freshman for not even two months I'm sure plenty of other schools will be interested if he is getting P5 calls already.
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Re: Are College Camps Wort It?
That last paragraph is correct legally but not correct completely. You can still attend campus and watch practice, meet players, see coaches and have indirect conversations with them. So there are ways around the rules if the coaches/you know how to use them. They can be given a tour of facilities just not by coaches. So you can do everything you used to do just in a different way. It is done every week on almost every campus around the US.
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Re: Are College Camps Wort It?
Pitching fan is right. My original response was written last year right after the rule change went into effect and nobody knew how it was going to play out.
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Re: What to do in front of a scout
Kanye, how about just being yourself and playing your game. Often, when a player tried to impress some coach, just the opposite happens. For example, you might want to put a little more pop on that ball resulting in more balls out of the zone. A pitcher that doesn't have control doesn't have anything. When you enter that game, it isn't about you regardless of who is in the stands. It is always about team. Coaches notice those things. So, be a good teammate. Do what you do which obviously...
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Re: What to do in front of a scout
My son, when he's playing and just throwing to try and get outs, he's 85-88 with decent control. When he's trying to impress and trying to throw as hard as he can, he's 85-88 and high and wide. Just throw your game.
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Re: What to do in front of a scout
It's basically the same situation, but at another level. My son got to throw in front of pro scouts yesterday at his summer league's prospect showcase. He's not eligible for the draft next June....and really had to be talked in to going yesterday. No live pitching....just a bullpen in front of the scouts. He was 88-89, good control, curve worked and another pitcher told him that one of the scouts would watch him then write something, watch him then write more. As soon as he was done, the...
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Re: What to do in front of a scout
Outstanding advice and what else would we expect from the Coach! For a rising senior, your velocity is fine and rarely seen at the high school level. Show that coach you are a winner, a team first guy, and can win with the tools you presently have. Show him those things and he might think "I can see that kid fitting into our program. If we add some weight training and teach him a pitch or two, I could see that kid pitching on Friday nights down the road." Give him a chance to like YOU first...
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Re: What to do in front of a scout
What to do in front of a scout? Go to youtube and watch all of the Domingo Ayala and Kent Murphy videos. Then, do none of that.
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Re: What to do in front of a scout
Show Character. When someone makes a play behind you, recognize it (nothing major, perhaps a pointing of the glove and a "nice job"). If someone makes a great play, really recognize it. Someone boots it, pick 'em up. A teammate crosses the plate, be sure to give him an attaboy. Pregame: do your thing in an energetic fashion. Postgame, regardless of the score or performance: carry yourself with dignity and respect for others. You don't know who is watching, when they're watching, and from...
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I definitely agree on the 1st base, etc coverage. At Lakepoint last week I cannot tell you how many pitchers I saw NOT do that...poor baseball knowledge as far as I am concerned.
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Re: What to do in front of a scout
He is going to watch carefully how you go about your business and how you act on the field as well as in the dugout. Thats just as important as your FB or slider.
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We were in a showcase tournament down South. A coach that was recruiting my daughter came early. BB was out playing catch, running, stretching, ... until game time. The coach walked over to her and wished her a good game and said that he had seen all he needed to see of her and was headed to another game. My daughter was somewhat stunned. Then he said to her that he didn't understand why her teammates weren't out there working as hard as she was to get ready to play a game in front of...
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My son was being recruited pretty heavily the summer after his junior year. This was his first real contact....and the RC had been coming to EVERY game for 3 weeks....even had a visit scheduled. Week 4, HC shows up....we didn't know he was there....son struggled....struck out a couple times and showed his frustration each time...and during warmups at 3B the following inning. Calls from RC quit coming....and even called off a visit due to "being out of town". We saw him again a couple weeks...
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Re: What to do in front of a scout
Just an FYI, Kevin O'Sullivan had a scout keep eye on son for quite a while. When you begin to get into the recruiting phase in HS, you will never know who is watching. Dont worry about your game, there is only so much that is expected of you. There are things you will learn when you get inti the program. Coaches are looking for players who are a good fit. They also watch their parents as well. So a lesson for everyone, time to sit back and relax and let them concentrate on your son, not you...
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Re: What to do in front of a scout
In our High School Leagues in California, many of the umpires are also part-time scouts. We had a strong player both physically & with skill set, who was two years ahead of my son. He was struggling with the 6th tool, Mental Discipline & Tenacity which in my mind means consistency, and as a High School player I think all are young at controlling emotions too. (They have not played Poker enough in the dorms or on bus rides yet) Anyhow, this particular guy would drop F-bombs @ SS with...
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Re: What to do in front of a scout
I guess this is one of those questions that I have to turn my head sideway at. So, I'm asking myself why would someone go out of there way to act differently for a scout ......shouldn't this be a 24x7x365 effort? Agree with JOEMKTG character is certainly important. How about leadership, composure too. Coaches want guys that are going to solve their problems not guys that are going to create more problems. Put yourself in the coaches shoes, always. Certainly impress him with your pitches.
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Consider that the college scout/pitching coach is reading this web site. How many pitchers will he evaluate in one day? "Walk in his shoes". Bob
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Re: What to do in front of a scout
Agree with things that Coach and Joe said. If a fielder makes a great play behind you, be one of the first to touch gloves with him at the end of an inning. If you are a PO (non-hitting) be involved with the game when your team is up to bat. These intangibles count more than you think. Coaches are looking for a fit in addition to a good fastball. As others have chimed in, be yourself. Good luck to you.
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Your performance may play very little in their evaluation. We have seen the comments on here several times that sometimes adversity in front of coaches and scouts is a good thing. They want to see how you react when you are not at your best too. PC had seen son pitch in Atlanta and sent RC to watch. Son came in to close and ended up giving up the one run lead. Winning run on third with two outs. Are you going to crumble as you just let the other team back in the game or are you going to...
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Re: What to do in front of a scout
It's gotta be tough, im sure you want to impress him and get an offer at some point. Alot really good advice here so far. I can tell you a times, when my son knew guys were watching, he got a little amped up and while his velo was very good, his location wasnt. Fortunately he was seen quite a bit across many many months and that worked out. Be you and focus on your game and your job. Trust your stuff, it's what got you this far. Good luck!
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Re: What to do in front of a scout
The best advice I could ever give is just be you! If you enjoy the game go enjoy things. Sooner or later, the real you is going to be revealed. For better or worse, you might just as well reveal it right away. Enjoy showing people/scouts what you got! Think about how lucky you are to even be in these situations. It is your time to shine! And if things don't workout the way you want... Guess what, there will be another day. BTW, being nervous is a good thing. Enjoy being nervous! Eat it up,...
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PG has it right, just be yourself. I actually believe you would be making a mistake acting the way you perceive somebody would want you to act. If they don't like who you are it isn't a fit...I would guess most of the time both sides are looking at and for the same thing anyway. If you are good enough you will be able to act any damn way you please and someone will over look it, you will be signed but it may limit your choices. All the talk about attitude, bench behavior and the rest is on a...
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Re: What to do in front of a scout
"What to do if your in front of a scout?" Move aside so he can see the game.
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Re: Getting Scout Feedback
Well, there are others who can better address your question, but before it goes too far down the page, I thought I'd throw out something anyway... Your son's mid-major D1 coach is most likely in tune to who the area scouts are. Son can ask him for an intro or at least a connection. Scouts should be happy to take a look and offer up suggestions with a player like this. If coach isn't in the loop, son can just look up the area scout teams or inquire with the better travel organizations in the...
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Re: Getting Scout Feedback
My experience is that the majority of MLB scouts like to remain incognito and are reluctant to give pointers. They are there to do a job and don't like distractions, especially from parents. Agents/advisors usually have a good relationship with hc or ac. Many are ex ball players who may have played some minor league ball. Often these advisors know instructors who work with their contracted players during MLB off season. Might cost some $$ though. Sounds like he had a good showing at the...
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Sorry, just curious - why is being a Senior a disadvantage? Is it because most college players are taken earlier, so conventional wisdom is that if you've not been drafted yet you must not be a true prospect?
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Purely from a financial point. Look back at the recent MLB drafts, what year in school, and how much of a signing bonus they received. Top $$ went to high school players, then college Jrs or soph who are 21 yrs old, and last the Srs. Srs have nowhere else to go, they used up NCAA elig thus no incentive not to sign. For example, a range of 20 picks (excluding a specific round for this example), let's say $200K - $300K they signed. Look at the Sr in this group. Probably $5K - 10K they signed,...
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Re: Getting Scout Feedback
KG; Can you ID a pro scout at your son's games? You may desire to sit next to a scout and ask the 1st question. How can a lady become a scout? What do you look for? Can you scout the 6th Tool? The answers will surprise you. Second option is to play Internationally. Italy, Australia, Holland, China. Bob < www.goodwillseries.org >
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Just getting back on the site. Thank you all so much for your feedback. This sure does help. Thank you, again!
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Trust in Him & adbono have it right! Pay close attention & heed their words & advice. Son was a Sr sign, got very little $$'s. Moved up quickly (not the norm), got lucky, made MLB debut in 3 yrs. But staying there (on 40 man roster) & avoiding injury are tough at best! Keep it ALL in perspective! It ain't exactly a picnic, folks! But certainly better than a poke in the eye. Lol
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Re: Division 3 to Pro
Your coach is going to place you in the appropriate league if he thinks you have the talent he will get you placed there. Top D3 programs have scouts at their games and following their top players and many have a scout day. Getting noticed is not typically not the problem if the talent is there.
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BOF is correct, I know a kid friend of the family who committed to a power 5 school. For a few reasons he ended up staying local and throwing D3 ball. He had many scouts looking at him closely this summer and will have many more this spring.
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Much depends on which DIII college you are at. Some are followed closely by the scouting community, many are not followed at all. There is a very big difference between the highest level and lower levels of DIII. I would think that most coaches would know when they have a player with professional ability. They should also know some area scouts that they can notify and someone in a summer leagues. Also, be proactive if you truly believe you're a prospect. There are Tryouts you can attend.
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A coach at a quality D3 is going to know pro scouts. He's probably had scouts interested in his players in the past. If a player isn't getting interest and his coach isn't good enough to help he should attend a MLB tryout. If he has anything he will be noticed. A D3 pitcher is more likely to draw interest than a D3 hitter. 90+ is 90+ regardless of the competition. I know a kid who entered college 5'11" throwing 84. He left drafted, 6'2" throwing 93. The question regarding D3 hitters is the...
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The coach of my son's D3 says that he expects that up to three of his players should draw some interest in the draft this year. From what we can gather the coaches are well connected and well respected, at least for a D3. They seem to get what might be called a small trickle of guys drafted from time to time. I think I read on their website that it was 24 in the past I can't remember how many years. So it definitely can happen. Of those 24 draft picks, though, I think most were in very late...
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Re: Division 3 to Pro
Thanks for the input everyone! Looks like I'll have to attend a tryout this summer since my school isn't a power house D3 program. We do play a lot of power house schools (two schools from our conference went to the world series last year and one of their coaches made it to the majors) though so I may get lucky if a scout is watching someone on another team. I am a pitcher by the way and I know we have a better chance at being scouted. Thanks again!
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With that velo, you should press your coach to find you a spot - Northwoods would be perfect for you. If he does not have the contacts, press him to speak to an area scout who has the right contacts. If that doesn't work, at the beginning of the Northwoods season, teams are always looking for temp players to fill in until the rostered players arrive. Do well during that temp contract and the team will either have a spot or call other teams on your behalf. Also, as the Northwoods season...
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lion, I am going to come at this in a slightly different way, but it worked for our son who was a D3 position player who was drafted. This is actually the way our son's D3 coach did it and his track record for Summer placements is second to none at the D3 level-last summer he had one player selected as a Northwoods All Star and 2 selected as NECBL All-Stars, (including one pitcher) and another who was one of the very top hitters in the NECBL for most of that Summer. I would suggest you look...
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Re: Scout Baseball showcase
D17 - we received the same email. I know nothing about them... I'm curious as well
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Re: Division 3 to Pro
You have received great advice, get on a good summer league team, work on your velo, and don't worry about the pro prospects until it is evident you have those skills. 86-88 in today's world is nowhere near where you need to be. Frankly 90 is not that unusual these days, for serious pro interest you will have to sit 90 (minimum) and be touching 94-95, anything less than this you are just kidding yourself. My son has a friend from his program (CWS team) who sat 90 touched 94 and was taken as...