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Re: Stanford Camp v. Duke Camp, Summer 2018
What a great, detailed summary of the camps! My two cents: The two camps are different animals. Stanford camp is a place where lots of high academic and other D1 coaches participate as coaches for the player teams for the purpose of recruiting, while unless I am mistaken, the Duke camp is staffed by Duke coaches only. My son went to Duke, and the then Duke coaching staff first saw him at the Stanford Camp. Interestingly, they did not approach him at the camp - only coaches that are...
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Re: Top 96 Baseball Camps
I checked the site. There are no colleges listed for most locations. There is no pricing (at least without going several pages into enrollment). There are a bunch of links that go nowhere. There is no detail to the daily format. When do you plan on actually having the necessary information for someone to make a decision regarding your events?
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Re: Top 96 Baseball Camps
Hi @cabbagedad - If you click on the session-specific link (like this one for Boston: https://www.top96.com/session/boston-session-1/ ) you can see the colleges that have confirmed so far, as well as the price down at the bottom of the page. We're going to have multiple sessions in each geography, but haven't launched those second sessions yet, which is why on the Locations pages (like this one for Boston: https://www.top96.com/location/boston/ ) those details aren't listed - if you click on...
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Thx for the info. We’ll wait for more regions; $599 is a stretch for analysis and new program. Good Luck to your team
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My son requested information and we got a nice voice mail and an email from Jed. My son needs to start thinking what colleges/ region of the country he will consider before we sign up for recruiting camps/showcases.
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Re: Top 96 Baseball Camps
@Top 96 Baseball Have you considered paying for Advertising, to this site? This site is paid for by a very select few. And this looks like you are advertising your showcases.
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Re: Stanford Camp v. Duke Camp, Summer 2018
Please let us know your thoughts on the Duke camp this year!
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Re: Stanford Camp v. Duke Camp, Summer 2018
Bumping this as my son just returned from the three day Duke summer prospect camp. A caveat - I didn't go with him so the impressions below are gathered from him. He enjoyed the camp and compared it favorably to Stanford. He thought the talent levels were similarand the instruction was good. The studs at Duke compared very favorably to the top kids at Stanford camp. At the bottom end talent seemed a little thinner at Duke. Big group - 150 kids, mostly drawn from the south. Heavy on 21s with...
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Re: Are College Camps Wort It?
Pulling back up an old thread as we are now trying to determine if going to elite prospect type camps are worth it. My son, a 2023, is pondering 3 of the prospect camps he has recently been invited to. They are all P5 schools. He has talked to two of the schools on the phone (they reached out to his showcase coach and asked for him to call them). One of the schools is in his top 5 list of schools and they seemed to be the most interested. He has actually spoken to them on the phone several...
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Re: Are College Camps Wort It?
If they have asked you to call as a freshman. They are recruiting and it’s worth going.
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Re: Are College Camps Wort It?
Unless he hasn't been playing fall ball or isn't 100% right now I would go to the camps of the two schools that called him. They are 100% useful in this situation - when a coach invites personally. If nothing comes of the camp don't sweat it, just two more schools you can cross off the list for now. Considering your son has been a freshman for not even two months I'm sure plenty of other schools will be interested if he is getting P5 calls already.
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Re: Are College Camps Wort It?
That last paragraph is correct legally but not correct completely. You can still attend campus and watch practice, meet players, see coaches and have indirect conversations with them. So there are ways around the rules if the coaches/you know how to use them. They can be given a tour of facilities just not by coaches. So you can do everything you used to do just in a different way. It is done every week on almost every campus around the US.
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Re: Are College Camps Wort It?
Pitching fan is right. My original response was written last year right after the rule change went into effect and nobody knew how it was going to play out.
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row
Son attended HF and the short answer to that question is yes, pitchers throw both days. I'm not sure if I'd say "make you" throw 2 days. I think you'd have the option to just throw day 1 or 2 but you'd most likely only get your 2 innings for that day. That's probably a good question for you to ask the HF team via email. They are very responsive. I can tell you that they have a pitching coordinator who checks on the pitchers each day as they enter the facility (on Long Island) and adjusts...
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row
So you're saying that two short outings on consecutive days bothers your arm? If so, you may have an issue that requires attention.
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row
Welcome to the site, Kayne87... Yes, this is the bigger concern... Figure out what the issues are and get them fixed sooner than later or there will be no purpose in pursuing playing at the next level. That symptom points to something either structural or mechanical and there is a possibility that you are worsening the issue by continuing to throw. Get to a good sports PT or sports ortho. Best of luck to you.
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row
Once again, this can be a pitch count situation. Depending on how many pitches are thrown on the first day. It's not innings, it is the number of pitches that count. I'm almost certain that no one at either camp is going to throw someone who tells them he can't throw. This is why parents and players need to monitor things and understand arm care. Nobody running those events mentioned wants to purposely put any pitcher at risk. All you have to do is tell them ahead of time that you only want...
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row
My son attended HF in Sacramento and if you signed up as a Pitcher as your primary position, you are expected, but not required, to pitch 2 innings both days. Now when I say "innings" remember: All batters start with a 1-1 count and are told to swing away--the HF umps call anything close a strike Only 5 batters hit each inning By way of example, my son pitched 11 pitches one inning and 14 the next and that was with several K's. I'd say most kids tossed between 15-25 pitches in their two...
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row
Are you saying you are in pain day after throwing many innings or is arm just tired? Is it painful when you re throwing? How many do you pitch in a game, 100, 110, 120 plus? If you have any pain it needs to be checked out. Much better to have issue in HS and fix it then in college if you get to play at that level. Good Luck to you.
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Re: Throwing 2 days in a row
As mentioned above... Throwing a couple of innings two days in a row may not be ideal depending on the number of pitches - but it should be something that you can do if necessary. If you do move on to play in college, you are going to be expected to throw a lot. Probably 6-7 days a week at some points. If pitching one day makes it impossible to throw the next, you really need to get your arm checked out. You are probably aggravating a chronic condition, and that isn't good for your long term...
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Re: Showball Camp vs Headfirst Camp Same November Weekend
Gov, I know you said target colleges will be attending both events. I'd ask the specific college coaches (your son is most interested in) which event is the "best fit" for your son to see what they say. Most likely the HC will be attending one event and the RC may be attending the other event for any particular college in question. Possibly one of those HC coaches has already seen your son and it may be beneficial for your son to be seen by the RC coach (for example) of the same school. Just...
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Re: Showball Camp vs Headfirst Camp Same November Weekend
Hi Gov- As a background my son has attended both Showball Mega twice and HeadFirst once. He went to Headfirst Long Island summer before his junior year and Showball Mega December of his sophomore and junior years. The switch from December (Ft Myers) to November (Lakeland) in Showball is new. Compare the prices HF($995) for 58 coaches so far to Showball ($795) with 90 coaches. Showball Mega Camp usually has about 225 prospects, while the HF in Long Island seemed like more. I thought the...
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Re: Showball Camp vs Headfirst Camp Same November Weekend
Have done both camps in the past. Both accomplish much of the same, perhaps HeadFirst a little more organized and do hand out a book with all coaches attending. There may also be more Assistant Coaches at Showball. Keep in mind similar schools are at Showball's Academic Camps.
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Re: Showball Camp vs Headfirst Camp Same November Weekend
Really appreciate the feedback guys. It threw me off that a few of the same colleges coaches were saying they'd be at both, when they are 2.5 hours apart. Fenway, I like your idea of calling the coaches and asking their suggestion for best fit. Son was able to meet and put on a good showing for Brown, Harvard, and Dartmouth coaches, and he hopes the Stanford coaches, at the recent Stanford All Star Camp. Plan is get him in front of them again soon. We opted for November HF (possibly) because...
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Re: Showball Camp vs Headfirst Camp Same November Weekend
Gov, good call on choosing November camps.
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Re: Showball Camp vs Headfirst Camp Same November Weekend
Smoke - what's the latest w Kai? PM me if preferred
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Re: Showball Camp vs Headfirst Camp Same November Weekend
Hello all, just thought I would add in my two cents. I've had two sons (and now my softball playing daughter) go through this process. My boys attended both HF and Showball, but I will not be sending my daughter to the Showball softball camp. HF has always been better organized, and frankly, they play more baseball. If you look at their schedules, HF has more programming (2 more full games, I think). This extra time with these coaches is vital. HF also had coaches talk to the entire camp...
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Re: 2018 Pounding the Pavement...
Cast the net wide. Plenty of opportunities outside of DI. If you aren't getting DI interest at this point, there's a reason. Focus on what you can control. Keep academics a priority. I know of plenty of kids that had great collegiate careers at something other than DI. Keep pounding the pavement that lead to the right fit. GL in 2018!
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Re: 2018 Pounding the Pavement...
Are you targeting D3 schools? Its more of a right place right time sometimes as well...2018 signed up to a D3 camp this past august at last minute...ended up having a career day both offensively and defensively...coach told the crowd that he would contact those they are interested in within two weeks or so...got a call five mins after we left. School ended up being a perfect fit for son with him and the coach clicking immediately. Have you done PBR or PG events? these events hold unsigned...
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Re: 2018 Pounding the Pavement...
If your son is a 2018 and seeking four year college opportunities, it's very late in the process for most schools. A key aspect of the overall process is to develop a vetted list of schools...vetted academically and athletically. That means fishing in the right pond, i.e., where the player really fits with respect to baseball and academics. Not wishful thinking, but schools and programs that make sense. That list can and should be vetted not just by the player and parents, but by independent...
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Re: 2018 Pounding the Pavement...
I'm not sure you've missed the college baseball bus, but it's pulling away as you're getting to the bus stop. Were you doing these same things over the last few years and was there interest/engagement from colleges or not? Will he walk on and take a chance? Will he play anywhere to get on a team (D2) with the goal to move up from there?
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Re: 2018 Pounding the Pavement...
Not sure you can move up from DII once you have enrolled and played at that level. Maybe a Juco to start and move up from there or a 4-2-4 scenario if the walk on DI doesn't work out. Based on the info here, it sounds like Juco, DII, DIII or NAIA are the his best options. Walking on to a DI without a sniff of be recruited is just asking for failure. IMHO.
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Re: 2018 Pounding the Pavement...
I can relate with you and your son in the stress, anxiety and non-interest with colleges. My son was in a similar position with the exception that a couple of colleges showed interest the summer before his Sr HS year began. As above have mentioned cast a wide net and keep at it. With son's consent maybe handle some of the direct correspondences with coaches to ease his burden. The D1 school that my son accepted a scholarship at actually saw him a few times over a 2 year span. The last time...
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Re: 2018 Pounding the Pavement...
It's hard to answer your questions...as there is no one answer for all of them. I think everyone has seen it.....a kid who doesn't have that "wow" factor getting offers before our sons who have done everything they can and don't get overwhelmed with offers...or the offers come later than we had hoped. My son was one of those kids....we saw others getting offers...and wondered why he hadn't gotten any....even though he had serious interest from a couple schools who had been making an effort...
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Re: 2018 Pounding the Pavement...
I'm assuming your son has a plan B. If not, he needs to get one ASAP.
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Re: 2018 Pounding the Pavement...
Really good song by David Lee Murphy - If the Fish Ain't Bitin'! (The chorus goes, "What kinda bait you got on the hook?" If the D-1's aren't calling by now, you still have a chance, but the chance is infinitely smaller than it would have been this last fall. You are most likely fishing in the wrong waters, because your bait is not working. Do as PO said and cast a wider net!
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Re: 2018 Pounding the Pavement...
BP23, talent is 99% of the equation for most college baseball coaches . The other things (social, grades, references, etc) are all just tie-breakers. Don't get me wrong, tie-breakers are important, especially if you're at the same talent level as lots of other guys. I don't mean to be negative, but if he hasn't talked to any schools that were excited about the prospect of him attending, at this late date, then he's not talking to the right schools. At this point his options are more limited...
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Re: 2018 Pounding the Pavement...
Formula has to be — reach out to as many coaches at as many different levels that you even might be interested in. Send them a short email and a video and see what comes back. I would advise though against thinking that JUCO is somehow easier than D1 for recruiting. In most cases, our experience was that kids looking at JUCO were going there as a way to prepare for D1, either academically or athletically, not because they couldn't have played at a D2 or D3. If your son is truly willing to...
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Re: 2018 Pounding the Pavement...
I agree with the sentiment of others and will try not to beat a dead horse too much. I will say this happens to way more players than folks realize... good players, capable of playing at some college level, taking all the right steps, good students, etc., etc..... just not quite good enough to convince a college coach that he will be the sure bet contributor that warrants offering some of the program's precious scholy $ - more so than others he has seen. As far as advice (considering the...
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Re: 2018 Pounding the Pavement...
Wow, thanks for all the feedback. He did ramp things up (started casting that wider net) a few months ago, end of summer, after him and his teammates realized that the coaches from their travel team weren't doing anything to help them. They told them all season they were making phone calls and then nothing. Only 2 scouts ever came to watch their team the entire summer season. They told all the boys there were a couple of D2s in South Carolina where they had connections and then the season...
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Re: 2018 Pounding the Pavement...
My advice to anyone out there looking is do not EVER rely on anyone else to "help" with your recruiting. The player needs to take the lead and then if and when you get help from coaches etc., that is the icing on the cake. I read on here once to forget about the numbers/letters... Doesnt matter if D1, 2, 3, JUCO, NAIA or anything else. Dont get caught up in the numbers. Cast a very wide net both geographically and educationally, find the right fit and take the lead in your recruitment.
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Baseballparent23.....if the D2 that he likes is local (no travel expense) and is having a camp next week, I'd say it's absolutely not a waste of money. A camp at a school, especially one that's local and has had conversations with your son is a REALLY good way to get in front of the coaches again. I'd suggest emailing them and letting them know he's coming and see what kind of reply he gets. I think their reply will give you a pretty good idea of what they have in mind with regard to him. If...