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Re: how hard do I have to throw to go D1
Just because you are drafted doesn't mean you accept. LHP touching 91 was drafted in like the 37th round last year from my sons HS, he opted for Auburn. This year LHP touching 93...pretty sure someone will throw his name out there but also pretty sure he's going to GA Tech.
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Nonamedad, there are a lot more 90+ arms out there than you think. Just go to Perfect Game website and search the big tournament in Jupiter. There are over 100 kids topping at 90 and above. Now when you compare that number to the 1000s of kids playing HS baseball I guess it's not a lot. But I can assure you not all the 90+ guys are in professional baseball. My son's college team has 8 guys who ar consistently 90 or above. That doesn't mean every pitch is 90, but they hit 90 or above multiple...
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That's exactly my point, you see these teams in Omaha regularly. My challenge for everyone is to watch the CWS regional and super regional games and we can all see when the majority of 90+ arms show up. We have the top 64 teams in the country, I'm betting it will be down to 16 before 50% are 90+.
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I'm betting it will be down to 16 before 50% are 90+. Are you you talking about teams or individual staffs? There is no way it gets to 16 before you see a 90+ arm as a starter. It may be that deep before you see 50% of the entire staff at 90%. But I guarantee you that almost every team that makes the tournament has at least 1 guy that is 90+. Im not trying to be argumentative and I have nothing to backup my assertion other than what I've seen with my own eyes. Every SEC team we have faced...
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As a follow up to the last post and to answer the original OP, I'm not stating you MUST throw 90 to play at a D1. All I can tell you is from my son's experience, if you don't have the plus velocity, you need pinpoint precision, a bulldog mentality or some other makeup factor that a college recruiter is looking for. My best advice would be to go watch a few games of any schools of interest. See with your own eyes the types of pitchers they recruit. This will give you the best idea of whether...
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YoungGun mentioned Jupiter and the number of pitchers there throwing 90+. Here are the exact numbers: Number of Pitchers: 926 Number of Pitchers Throwing 90+: 197 (21%) Number of RHP Throwing 90+: 177 (25% of RHP) Number of LHP Throwing 90+: 20 (9% of RHP) Special note - 15 of the 20 are exactly at 90. As of a month after Jupiter (Data only for 2017 Pitchers): Percentage of RHP throwing 90+ committed: 84% Percentage of LHP throwing 90+ committed: 93% Only 1 had not committed Velocity of RHP...
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Like YG says. You hit 90 and you get noticed. Kid at our HS consistent at 88/89. Not much interest. Gained 1mph to get to the magic number 90 and the calls came in. Kind of ridiculous really.
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How hard do I have to throw to go D1? Or some variation of this topic is constantly being discussed. For a RHP, generally speaking, you have to throw hard. And velocity is not the only benchmark, but it's a very important one. PerfectGame is one data point. I know that not all players do PG events. My youngest is a college player and did not. My oldest was a D1 RHP / SS and only did one PG event. That said, if I read PG profiles correctly, the average fastball for 2017 grads clocked by PG in...
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87-89 sitting or touching? I find these discussions hard to follow becuse some people use max numbers and other use sitting number. And they can be 3-4mph apart
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Knowing that the poster is in Rhode Island if he cruises 85-87 every New England D1 will be interested. BC will be a little less interested unless he has great command. They have to compete in the ACC. Boston College, UMass, Holy Cross, Northeastern, Harvard, UMass Lowell, Maine, Dartmouth, Bryant, Rhode Island, Brown, UConn, Quinnipiac, Yale, Hartford, Central Connecticut, Sacred Heart and Fairfield. The thing to understand is not all D1's are created equal. There are D2 programs who could...
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Do college coaches look at projectability? Would a 16 year old sitting at 86 get looked at the same way as a 17 year old sitting at 88?
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There are other factors. Size, body frame and year to year progression would be among them. The 16yo might have peaked pitching wise while the 17yo is just getting started.
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So the answer is yes - they do look at projectability. Son is a skinny 16yo 2018 pitcher that throws 86-87 and he has some D1 schools that were interested in him but nothing concrete yet. Hoping this summer seals the deal for him.
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"Do college coaches look at projectability? Would a 16 year old sitting at 86 get looked at the same way as a 17 year old sitting at 88?" Too many variables to give a decent answer. RJM hit a few, but there are lots more pieces to the pitching puzzle.
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This topic really gets beat to death here. Those trying to give players and parents a reality check share that a certain high level of velo is necessary to get serious interest/$$$ with top programs. Others (often, those with kids who don't throw quite as hard) throw out examples of guys throwing below that threshold and "doing just fine" with Big School U. It's pretty simple. Velo is very desirable (we have also spent countless discussions explaining why). College coaches look for guys with...
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Very helpful, correlates perfectly with what my eyes tell me. If you took those 197 players and gave each of the 300 D1 program 1, there would still be 33% +/- schools without a 90+ kid. As we know SEC schools like to stockpile these guys, so even fewer to go around for the other D1 programs. Thats why when I watch BTN or the Big12 or PAC 12 baseball I will most likely see 2 kids sitting mid 80s. Makes perfect sense.
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I can't speak for noname but the way I read that was 50% of all pitchers in all games. Not 50% of teams will have at least one guy who throws 90. It would be good for him to come back and clear that up!
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That's right 50 % of the pitchers on the teams. Both teams combined, So if we see 5 kids in a game total and 2 throw 90 that doesn't count, and it counts what is shown on TV, not PG numbers.