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Has Anyone Used Or Is Using a College Sports Recruiting Service?
This article appeared in a Los Angeles Newspaper a few days ago. http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20170826/inside-the-unregulated-world-of-recruiting-consulting-services I never used a service for my son but did consider it. Thought this might be helpful for parents and players. We've all been through the "what ifs", anxiety, and second guessing. Some friends swore by it as engraved in stone, some negatively, majority had no idea. Son was approached in 9th grade and every year after that...
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Never used a recruiting service, but that sounds like what I've heard from almost anyone I know who did. Big $$$$ and a lot of promises for things that you can easily do yourself. Heck, the advise you can get on here in one day with regard to recruiting is worth more than what you'd pay a recruiting service
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Never used one; son was approached consistently by a few the past four years. This board allowed me and my son to get invested in the process ourselves and lean on the intel and experiences from this boards members. Have heard positives and negatives... if a family doesn't have the time it could be helpful. I've heard nice things about NCSA...
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Trust In Him, Thanks for posting. This is a topic that comes up here frequently and I think the general consensus echo's what Buckeye and Gov are saying... that with the proper resources, i.e. HSBBW , a recruit and his family can do things better on their own. It seems that the agencies/services are going the path of travel ball... more and more diluted product flooding the market making it hard to find the good stuff if you don't really know where to look. As result, I think more and more...
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The $$$ numbers in that article floored me. $3800 and $5000? Wow, that's absurd. I have heard of services in the $750-1000 range, but had no idea any were charging that kind of money. I guess football would be different than baseball or basketball as you don't have 10-12 weeks of summer football to play multiple games in front of multiple coaches like you do for basketball and baseball, but even at that, I'd think you could get exposure without paying ridiculous amounts of money. The other...
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We used NCSA (mentioned as biggest in article). Profile free to anyone. Found webinars helpful and also gave son idea of which schools (academic/athletic) to target. Son found Kaplan service helpful in preparing for SAT. I think we started w/ NCSA his freshman year. Was it worth it?? Well helped having it available for > a year. Looking back many parents spend a great deal tournaments on showcases, camps and traveling with "THE" team. Fenway South was helpful in Navigating the High...
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No, didn't use any agencies. Sorry if this was posted previously, still learning the ropes here .
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For baseball and basketball, playing for an organization/coach with connections and credibility go a long way. During his visit, my son asked the coach, "There are a lot of guys out there with very similar numbers to mine. Why me?" Keep in mind, this school was recruiting him without any of the staff ever having seen him pitch in person and without the head coach ever ever seeing him pitch in person. This school had latched on to him via recommendations from our summer team HC. They had...
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No problem at all... wouldn't expect you to know that. Just threw that out as background.
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Rather than pay for a service pay to play for a team with a credible coach who can make calls to college coaches he knows about your son. A recommended player is going to get more of a look than one from a mass mailer (which most likely won't be read).
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I have had over 20 calls in the past 3 days from services. Must be the fact that I have a junior and September 1st is getting close?? Do showcases sell their lists? I know Headfirst has an exclusive with Diamond but do others?
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I know the St. Brown dad still swears by this recruiting service guy. His kids are/were in the top 250 of all high school football players nationwide and highly sought after prospects. Amon Ra St. Brown is currently ranked the 11th best overall high school football prospect at any position by 247sports. Talk about not needing any help AND still spending (wasting IMO) the $$$. Every sport has recruiting services either online or with a more "personal" touch. Some, like NCSA or berecruited,...
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We use fieldlevel for my 2019. Both his HS and Travel coach can promote him to schools via the site. It's a place to have a profile and put his videos and articles on. It's free, but we pay $20 a month to know what schools are looking at his profile. We've been contacted by NCSA recently about using them. I've looked at some of their articles and it's decent stuff, but won't be using them to recruit.
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A friend paid $1,500 for a consultant/service for his son. When the consultant didn't return calls in a timely fashion he called me to see if I had an answer. One day he asked why he's paying $1,500 for a service when he's getting better results from me free. He asked how I know all this stuff. I told him I don't know it all. What I didn't experience I either learned on hasbaseballweb or I post a question to get multiple responses from multiple experiences. I walked him through making a list...
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Ditto on using the funds to play showcases, on training and specific camps where you have an interest and it could help your visibility with that college. Most of these guys are not reputable or at least oversell the service knowing they cannot generate a scholarship offer.
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NCSA contacted us when son was a freshman, the contacts we spoke to were very nice and gave very generic "free" information on the initial phone call, most or all of which I already had acquired here. Didn't hear anything from them that would inspire me to plop down the money they were talking. I would recommend using BeRecruited.com's free profile service, it's a nice interface and a good way to keep son's information updated and post videos, etc. Then use the link to son's profile in the...
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Just in case anyone thought recruiting services and showcases were something new:
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I'm super hesitant to jump in on this thread b/c I make my living counseling students on their college adventures and I've worked with dozens of student athletes over the years. Most families don't need anyone's help or guidance but, clearly, the business model works for me and my clients--I get most of my biz word of mouth. My point would be: just like in any industry, there are the good ones and the lousy ones. At conferences, I've heard college HCs say they do not recommend the recruiting...
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Not a big fan. Signed up with a firm and while not bad — it didn’t really help either. The created and hosted his video, pulled a bio together and did some personalized email marketing for agreed upon schools. But the cost compared to the value delivered were not equal. Wish I had found HSBBW earlier and could have saved myself a ton of money. Hindsight is always 20/20
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Hey Al Pal, No worries, glad you jumped in with your views. I just recently joined this group but for me, the only way to make a comfortable informed decision is to hear from all sides.
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You literally can find every coach's email on the website of the school you are looking at. I do not know why people pay all of this money to do what they can do for free.
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Holy crap, Root, that is amazing !!! The names of the instructors... unreal. I gotta know more of the story on this. And $60 + $7/wk for housing in 1936 was a lot of money (I think).
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As BRANSON noted, key is to fish in the right pond. The idea that a paid third party always has a better idea about fit than the player/parents is simply not true. While there may be exceptions, these occur when the parents do not pursue obtaining the knowledge - through either lack of resources or lack of trying. Finding the right fit academically is most often best left to the family unit. Finding the right fit skill wise is probably the most difficult and requires a pretty good...
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This was at a time when a lot of MLB teams did their "spring training" in Arkansas. They would instruct for Ray Doan during their off hours to make extra $$. I'm not sure how much "instructing" they did, but, in other years, they listed Dizzy and Paul Dean as instructors.
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I just signed up for the free BeRecruited service and it says you have to upgrade to Deluxe to see who a coach is if they search the profile.
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With so many good players these days, I believe the most difficult thing to do is to get on the radar of a school. If you are one of the top 5% studs it's a given. Coaches do not have resources to look at many good player. If they start hearing your name a few times maybe it will make them look at some particulars. I don't know if these recruiting services are the answer but if they can somehow make the recruiting coaches ponder over a player for a few minutes that they normally wouldn't, is...
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Our family would prefer to spend $$$ on speed & strength training, hitting lessons, and academic tutors than on a recruiting service.
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Broadly-based, college counseling is one thing; while services focused on blanketing coaching staffs with recruiting information is quite another. If ones in the latter category have been working any length of time, it's much more a reflection of the fact that hopeful, gullible parents are willing to keep paying them. Materials promoting individual players by paid recruiting services are routinely ignored by college recruiters. You're much better off studying the advice on this site and...
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We used NCSA. Paid for the premium service. It was a useful way to post film, send out emails, keep track of who responded by looking at profile. Several schools visited his profile multiple times. Whenever a school would check out his profile, the kid would follow up with the coach. It generated some useful contacts and useful back and forth. Helped us narrow down which schools to focus on. It seems to have played some roll in his being recruited by the school he eventually chose to attend.
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Waste of money. People do like to waste money on baseball though.
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I think this depends on anyone's level of expertise. There are good and lousy counselors, but there also are clients who with expertise who don't need a counselor, and many who need support and direction. Everyone has to find his or her own comfort level. My dad taught in college for 40 years. I'm very comfortable with the academic side of things and probably wouldn't seek your help. I know nothing about baseball, or baseball recruiting, so we did seek support from a company when my son was...
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My opinion on utilizing a third party is somewhat different for the guy off the street as opposed to anyone participating in this site. When you talk about "get on the radar", or more specifically "ponder over a player for a few minutes", I would suggest that you try to gain an appreciation for how target schools generally go about identifying candidates. There may be some schools who do in fact put some reliance on third party "scouts", but the vast majority do not. I've never heard of a...
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We did use a recruiting service, and I have to admit we did find it helpful at the time. Bit of a unique situation, and the guy was very good. Former D1 player that played at one school, then went to another school in his 5th year. Then he was an assistant at two different d1 schools, and his father worked in and MLB organization. So the guy had a great network, he was independent, and my son was his first client, which meant very low fee. He had a very extensive network, and he had lived...
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Some great stuff here. Here is an example of a player who had a difficult time being "on the radar" even when he produced. I don't know if he used a recruiting service though (and I still have the opinion many of these services are not what parents envision). Yes I realize this could be a fluke or not normal, just an example though. Attended a well recognized top baseball high school program. By the time graduated in the top 5 in almost every school record. All league, All CIF, All State,...
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I think that a recruiting service can be beneficial when the kid is not a stud, maybe just good and has money to spend. A guy from Diamond College Advisory (Justin Cronk, played football and baseball at Amherst) has spoken at our school. He is supposed to have a pretty good handle on the academic schools and a few others. Part of his pitch is that he knows, for example, if Middlebury needs a SS or Williams has a certain need in a certain class and how likely a recruit is to play four years,...
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We used NCSA, starting when our son was a freshman. Looking back, there were advantages and disadvantages and I will try my best to outline them. I am not familiar with any other service, but as far as NCSA goes (which I think is generally believed to be the best/most reputable of them), here goes (note that we paid for the premium service, about $900 if I recall): Advantages: 1) You will get what basically amounts to a professional website for your son that contains a personal statement,...
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Our family experience with NCSA was identical to Enjoying The Ride in every aspect mentioned above. My son used the site & aforementioned resources to narrow his search and see where he really fit & how true the school was a match for his goals. Signed up freshman year, same experience with unlocking the resources when a certain velocity was attained & verified. After Jr. year his goals were; Midwest/Southern College, Division I , Engineering and Baseball ....in that order. His...
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My 2018 was offered a spot at a D3 school, based solely on viewing his profile on berecruited.com. Never saw him in person. He visited the school and stays in contact. For us, the free sites seem to work just fine.
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My son has a free berecruited site as well, but fortunately because of the great advice on here, he has been doing all the "recruiting" himself. He has cast a very wide net (several hundred schools contacted) and has had really good results by doing it himself. My involvement has been to edit a few videos for him and help him post them. Many schools/travel programs also have a "FieldLevel" account where you can put your profile, stats, videos etc. You do have to pay a monthly fee, but my son...
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We use NCSA and get the sibling discount. Daughter utilized it for swimming (Just starting her senior year). 95 views and 55 follows. And she was not nearly as proactive as some of the members on here state their kids are. The site has tools to research schools your looking for with electable parameters such as Div, school size, majors, etc. IMO swimming really doesn't have stats. Its fastest times. Is your 50 free time faster than x. Can your butterfly beat x.... Compare that to exit...
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I can't find any pricing on the fieldlevel site, how much is the paid or premium membership?
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They have a $19/mo. option
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Just like internet dating sites "my friend" told me about.
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It runs 19, 39, or 59 per month. We started with 19 and once he started getting some profile views, search hits, and video views etc. we moved up to 39. I guess we have done the mid level 39 for about a year now. FYI son is 2018 so almost at end of needing it. Also - I will use PG site to see commits at schools who seem to have a lot of activity on field level and see if potential fit. As posted above, nothing is free in this world but you don't have to pay $$$$ to a recruiting service if...
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I logged in and checked my subscription status.... OK so it turns out I had purchased the one-time $99 "deluxe lifetime" option and kinda forgot I had done it. I'm getting a bit forgetful in middle age. And since I don't get billed anymore I made the leap to "it's free!!" sorry about that.
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Are they asking him to apply ED with the coach walking the application through admissions?
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I wasnt there but my wife said they did try to get him to apply while they were there. We didnt apply though.
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The key is being asked to apply ED. My kids didn't play D3 so I'm not an expert on this. Since there aren't LOI's and athletic scholarships there are two ways to be sure of the coaches commitment. ED commits the kid to the school. A coach isn't going to make this request unless he really wants the kid. At academic D3's coaches often have some leeway with admission with five or six recruits. A coach asking for all the paperwork so he can push it through is anoer form of commitment. Otherwise...