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Re: Should Your son Play Fall Ball

Chico Escuela ·
Thanks for posting the article. It does make some good points. My 2020 son gave up soccer this fall (he made varsity last year) to play fall ball. I would have been fine either way, but he decided he wants to focus on baseball and he wasn't happy with the way he played this summer. I think that multiple sports are best, especially before HS. And because my son Is primarily a pitcher, I absolutely count his innings and his total pitches--if he were near 100 innings, he wouldn't pitch this...
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Re: Should Your son Play Fall Ball

Ripken Fan ·
Son is a position player who played fall ball throughout. He used it to tinker with a few things in swing, or used more situational approaches (hitting the other way, etc). Son played varsity soccer during fall, few conflicts. Fall ball coaches knew he would not make any practices. Hit fine and threw, but baseball running was more sluggish from soccer. Fall ball particularly was beneficial junior year, when he went to a couple of school specific camps, where he remained sharp.
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Re: Should Your son Play Fall Ball

bballdad2016 ·
Regarding Fall Baseball with a Travel Team vs. High School team: I wholeheartedly agree that it should be one or the other to prevent overuse or fatigue. That being said, make sure the juice is worth the squeeze, IE: is your TB team playing a similar amount of games and similar completion as your HS Fall team? If so, is the cost worth it? Bottom line, just make sure which ever direction you go, your son is being developed properly without overuse or without breaking the bank before he's even...
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Re: Should Your son Play Fall Ball

2019Dad ·
The article begs the question. I mean, it starts with "we know that playing baseball year-round is a bad idea" . . .
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Re: Playing for HS and Showcase at same time?

Aleebaba ·
I doubt if there are any rules to prevent this, but HS coach would likely not like this at all. There are unwritten rules that Select team ball starts after HS, as there is always a concern for injury and overuse, (especially with pitchers). If your son gets hurt playing on the weekend the HS coach will get very angry and make it harder for him and others to play on team in the Summer. That is why there is an unwritten truce.
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Re: Playing for HS and Showcase at same time?

JeffLovin ·
Originally Posted by Aleebaba: I doubt if there are any rules to prevent this, but HS coach would likely not like this at all. There are unwritten rules that Select team ball starts after HS, as there is always a concern for injury and overuse, (especially with pitchers). If your son gets hurt playing on the weekend the HS coach will get very angry and make it harder for him to play on team in the Summer. That us why there is an unwritten truce. Thank you!
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Re: Playing for HS and Showcase at same time?

Bulldog 19 ·
In many states, it is not allowed. I know in Illinois that applies at any level. Have seen freshmen teams have to forfeit games because of it..
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Re: Playing for HS and Showcase at same time?

baseballmom ·
Your best bet is to contact UIL directly. Darryl Beasley, asst. ath. dir., 512-471-5883, dbeasley@uiltexas.org . You may want to consider the coaches position, if the JV player would be considered for a move to Varsity come playoff time. I'm in Dallas, & unless it is a reversal or a very recent change, I don't believe UIL would allow it. I know Varsity players could not. Son did attend a couple tournaments/showcases in the fall, missing a day of school each time due to travel, no...
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Re: Playing for HS and Showcase at same time?

Camartin ·
UIL does not govern activities outside of school; May students participate in non-school activities? Answer: Students may participate in non-school activities at anytime. This means that a student may play, practice or praticipate in a try-out for non-school teams The statement above was copied directly from the baseball manual in the Q&A section. The manual can be viewed on http://www.uiltexas.org/baseball .
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Re: Playing for HS and Showcase at same time?

baseballmom ·
Yep, familiar with the above. OP didn't specify whether these were weekend tourneys, or otherwise conflicted with HS season schedule. That is the unknown factor. Times have changed.
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d8 ·
Had this come up for the first time last year and there were no real problems. Kid was a catcher. He did not miss his HS games. Only time it affected him was he had a weekend tourn and did not get in until 2-3 a.m. Monday morning and we had a district game Monday afternoon. He was dragging after 4 tourn games and getting in lat and then playing that Monday
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Re: Playing for HS and Showcase at same time?

Camartin ·
I would think that any HS kid that skipped a school practice or game, would very quickly find himself playing for the showcase team only, so there would be no further conflicts. Time spent at HS practice or games would not be "outside of school". School activities come first. I haven't seen much of this problem beyond freshman ball. Once you get to the older, the tounaments don't typically start till June, do they? My son's team will start practices in early May, but always on Saturday or...
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Re: Playing for HS and Showcase at same time?

JeffLovin ·
Thank you for all of the great answers.... Just to clarify.... There is no conflict between the high school team and the tournament team. High school games and practices are during the week. Tournament games are on the weekend. We had always heard that it was the coaches that didn't want their players playing and getting hurt outside of school, and then we heard that it was a UIL rule, but the UIL rules for texas do not actually state whether they can or cannot play during a district season.
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baseballmom ·
JeffLovin, My opinion only, but kids need an adequate amount of down time/ recovery time & study time. There is truth to the saying "there's only so many bullets in the holster"...During HS season, 2 games a week + 1-1/2 to 2 hrs a day practice, during a week seems like plenty of playing time for kids under 18 & not in College. After HS season is done, there's 3-4 days a week until mid Nov. That's still a lot of innings, AB's or whatever. When he gets to college baseball will consume...
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Re: Advice On Transferring After/ During Freshman Year

MidAtlanticDad ·
Welcome to the forum. I'm also sending you a Private Message. The are some rules that are unique to your situation that you should be aware of (e.g. D2 and D3 eligibility is measures in full-time semesters not calendar years, did you sign a NLI, were you recruited by other schools, etc.). You can also call the NCAA Eligibility Center directly with specific questions. How will you get seen if you're not playing? You won't be. You'll have to rely mostly on the people who recruited you out of...
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Re: Advice On Transferring After/ During Freshman Year

cabbagedad ·
Lots of good info from Midatlanticdad... I will add that you can also look to any well connected travel coaches, instructors or HS coaches you've had recently that may be able to refer you. Many JC's are constantly on the lookout for players in the very situation you describe (to pick up for spring semester). You may also inquire about NAIA schools. I can't speak specifically to the rules but I think there may be more flexibility and I know many of those schools also bring in players for...
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Re: Advice On Transferring After/ During Freshman Year

AthleteDD ·
Appreciate your incite especially in regards to NAIA, I hadn't considered that before.
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Re: Advice On Transferring After/ During Freshman Year

cabbagedad ·
Absolutely. I would be screwing up if I didn't include... You mentioned the free ride and likely roster spot next year at current school. Baseball is a really important piece to most aspiring college baseball players but try to make sure you are keeping the 40 yr plan in front of the 4 yr plan.
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Re: Advice On Transferring After/ During Freshman Year

RJM ·
I completely understand wanting to continue to play college ball. But if not a D1/potential pro prospect ... If you’re at the right academic school at the right price what about staying there and playing summers in a competitive semi pro league?
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Re: Advice On Transferring After/ During Freshman Year

D1catcher ·
Go juco at semester if you’re transferring. Don’t wait and waste time when you have a chance to develop at a juco
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Re: Advice On Transferring After/ During Freshman Year

PABaseball ·
If you're not a pro prospect the goal is to get an education at the lowest possible cost. You're going to school for free. Baseball is great, but most kids are using it as a means to reduce the cost of college and play a few more years. If you had a 10% scholarship I would be giving different advice, but I would have a very hard time walking away from a free education. It sounds like you will be in a decent position on the depth chart once the seniors leave. I'd stick it out, especially with...
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Re: Advice On Transferring After/ During Freshman Year

BaseballFan1965 ·
Assuming you and your family are okay with you walking away from an academic scholarship then you may want to see if you are a fit for a JUCO. Probably a tough task at this point but if your coaches don't have an opportunity for you they may assist you in finding a landing spot that works for you. Many coaches seem to have relationships with specific JUCOs. They may be okay with assisting you to land at a JUCO then recruit you later if you are a fit and bridges are not burned. There are many...
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