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Re: Perfect Game showcase exit velo bat
Sorta like when my son was going to showcases and we would see a batter would hit many hard shots during the skills BP pitched with lobs from the L-screen. Then when the batter would play in the games, his line was K, K, K. "But we can teach him.. and when he hits the ball, it really goes"
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Scouts have told me, Skills Tests tell you who has the potential to play at the next level. You still have to show ability in the game. They look at a lot of things before they offer a scholarship or consider a kid to draft. It seems if you're 6'2"/6'3" 180/200 can run <6.8, Raw Throw 92+, Exit Velocity 95+ you will get a great deal of interest. Coaches and scouts talk and if you have +Skills and can play word gets around. My 2021 grandson is 6'3"/195 very athletic with +Skills across the...
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There are plenty of HS players with 95 mph tee exit velos who will never play college or pro ball. They are called showcase players, and when the things are moving at game speed and the pitched ball has spin and movement, sometimes they aren’t the best players on the field. D1 baseball, and all college baseball by and large, is not just about the HR ball. It’s about being a player who can be counted on to have an effective AB when the chips are on the line, whether that is a RBI single or a...
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Absolutely, you have to be able to show your skills in a game. As I mentioned my grandson got on scouts radar due to his skills testing. That coupled with a 400'+HR over the Center field fence Verified he was worth being put on scouts follow list. He is just starting his Junior year and hopefully he'll continue to improve, but a lot can happen in 2 years so who knows.
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Peach, if your grandson is raking like that, as a 2021, and isn’t committed already I would say something isn’t adding up.
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By NCAA rules colleges weren't able to contact him until September 1 of his Junior year which was only a few days ago. He has been contacted by 6 different colleges. All said they were interested in him but none offered a scholarship which. We are hoping that his hard work will lead to some scholarship offers.
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Per NCAA rules, a team can be contacted by the player from the time they take their first breath. So, if a college coach sees a player they like prior to September 1 of their Junior year, they reach out to that player’s coaches (club or high school) and tell them to call them. Teams can offer a 9 year old if they want, age has nothing to do with it. Offering a scholarship and verbally committing are a component of finally getting to the National Letter of Intent, but you won’t get to sign...
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Thanks for your input. We understand this will be a very important year for my grandson and he is working with a baseball specific trainer to be the best he can be. He's got good size, speed, +Arm, and ++Power, so hopefully his dreams will turn into offers by the end of his Junior year.
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Also, if his game is how you describe, you are going to want offers to the strongest programs possible to use as leverage for any potential signing bonus negotiations. If he is a pro prospect, I’m a little surprised there isn’t an offer already. That usually happens prior to or concurrent with pro scouts taking notice.
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Re: Perfect Game showcase exit velo bat
Grandson's goal is to get drafted or play for a major college program. He's always been a good player but it wasn't until this summer that we saw these astronomical gains in strength and speed. In the last 6 months his Raw Throwing went from 76 to 90+mph. Exit Velocity off the Tee, from 84 to 95+mph, 60 Speed from 7.4 to 6.92, Size from 6'2"/175 to 6'3"/195 of muscle. We're planning on putting together a Profile with links to videos and sending it to all the colleges on his wish list.
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Gotcha. You seem to be a big fan of your grandson. Keep encouraging him and keep yourself grounded on your expectations for him.
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Bob, I can answer your question by saying my Grandson is a truly focused athlete that never gives up. He's a quite kid that leads by example, working hard both on and off the field. Hopefully all his dreams will come true. I know I can count on him doing everything he can to be the best player and person he can be.
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If your grandson performed that way all summer, coaches should be asking him to call...regardless of Sept. 1. Does he play for a travel team that assists with recruiting? Most kids throwing 90 before junior year have offers. There is definitely more to it than stats. My son hasn’t picked up a bat during summer or showcases since before sophomore year but these were his showcase stats last time he did...he’s now a PO. Can hit for power, when he connects, which isn’t often enough to win the ...
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Re: Perfect Game showcase exit velo bat
Btw mlb hitters who can hit more than 25 homers mostly have a max EV of 110+. A pitched ball at 90 at best adds like 15-16 mph vs a stationary ball with ideal contact so to hit 110 you would have to be able to hit 95 off the tee. The elite power guys max at 115 so they would need to hit 100 off the tee. Of course there are also non great hitters who can hit 110 in a game but still that is a baseline you need to hit when you want to get to the highest level
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Re: Recruiting/Future help
Just my 2 cents worth but need that ACT higher. But I know of parents that paid 5K to go from 22 to 30!
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All great advice above, in fact maybe the most informative post if read on here. I would agree with it all. To me the glaring thing is there is a difference between “topping” 87 and “sitting” 87. In the Northeast it seems like for most mid major D1 they wait to see you sit 85. And if it’s 84 they wait. Saw it happen with many kids I coached. Some eventually made it and some didn’t. But in the end as a LHP when they starting sitting 85 then the gates opened. For RHP in general it seemed like...
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WOW - Things have changed and I haven't been on the forum in a while. I'm blown away by the responses and how informative/accurate they were. Thank you guys so much. Such a great resources for people struggling w/ similar issues. I wanted to update you on my son's story. He had a banner sophomore year in HS. Had a 1.42 ERA in 34 innings in the state's highest classification, led his team in hitting and ... was on the mound when his team won the state championship! LOL, things couldn't have...
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Huge congratulations!! Great to hear things have worked out so well for him... so far . Now, the real work begins!
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Re: Exit Velocity for 340 feet off the tee?
Unless there is a math professor on this site, you can't extrapolate the EV with only 1 value (distance). Great hittin' tho.
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Re: Exit Velocity for 340 feet off the tee?
Ahh, it's somewhere in the low 90s. Depends on the wind, of course, elevation, etc. The below chart (90 mph = 325 feet) is for throwing, but the physics is the same.
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Re: Exit Velocity for 340 feet off the tee?
NYC is correct. Need all the factors. What we can say however is that if the ball is struck with OPTIMUM launch angle on a windless day in completely average conditions 80mph = about 300 feet. I see 2019's chart says 275. There are different charts with different results but 80=300 is the most common I have seen. Then its five feet for every MPH from there. so 90 = 350 feet and 100 = 400 feet. A little helping breeze can affect those numbers more than you think. Thus you may see a MLB game...
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Re: Exit Velocity for 340 feet off the tee?
As a matter of fact... http://baseball.physics.illino...-calculator-new.html Sooooooo many variables, but here are some simplified examples at 50 degrees F (since JR appears to be in MD). - LA of 25, EV = 94.1 mph - LA of 30, EV = 92.9 mph
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Re: Exit Velocity for 340 feet off the tee?
I hit a 350ft no wind HR off a tee with BBCOR bat, but Zepp says my bat impact speed is 52mph, with a max of 60mph. Weird? I only swung 70mph with a BESR so I think it's accurate.
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Re: Exit Velocity for 340 feet off the tee?
Something is amiss there. Not a physical possibility to hit a ball 350 feet with a barrel speed of 52mph. I suspect poor performance by the zepp.
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Re: Exit Velocity for 340 feet off the tee?
from my experience zepp tends to be really off. One swing I had a 70 mph bat speed and the next 81. Same technique and mechanics, I think diamond kinetics is the big deal now
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Re: Exit Velo during BP?
My grandson took part in an NCTB Showcase this past weekend and posted 95mph Exit Velocity during BP. After his 1st swing they started videoing him and Tweeted the video. He is only 15 and we were told this velocity was near the best in the nation for Sophomores.
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Something I found: So I Measured my Exit Velocity, NOW WHAT? (Average exit velocity by age) Now that you know your exit velocity, you can see where you sit among your peers. Here’s the breakdown of what is considered an exceptional exit velocity among each age group: Ages 8-10: 55-65 mph Ages 11-13: 60-70 mph Ages 14-15: 75-80 mph Ages 15-16 (High School JV): 80 mph aluminum/ 75 mph wood Age 16-18 (High School Varsity): 90 mph aluminum/ 85 mph wood Collegiate: 95 mph aluminum/ 90 mph wood...
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Interesting, but this doesn't paint the whole picture. First, who is categorizing these exit velos with the level of play, because there are quite a few guys in the MLB currently who, by this chart, would be somewhere between JV and Varsity ball players. Just saying, this needs context. Is this average exit velo or maximum exit velo? For many batters, the difference between average and maximum is 20-25 MPH, sometime more. That is a pretty sizeable difference, and no disrespect to anyone on...
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Re: Exit Velo during BP?
Average exit velo on statcast for an MLB player has a much wider range because it's being taken in game against elite pitching. In my experience recording exit velos off a tee, the range is usually 3-5 mph from their max out. Someone who tops at 95 off the tee is sitting in the 89-93 range, 75 mph would be a pop up to the pitcher. The OP asks about bp. It's been studied that 1 mph of pitch velocity equates to .20 added exit velo. So bp exit velos should be about 6 mph harder. From evaluating...
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So, instead of using the available data from statcast, which is pretty much the gold standard, we should speculate? My point is this: sure, all of these players are capable of generating exit velos off a tee in an artificial setting with no real variables. But a pitched baseball is the biggest variable of them all, and the average exit velo for these players tells me that it really doesn’t matter what is measured off the tee, because on average you aren’t going to produce that during a game.
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The stat cast average ev is irrelevant because peaches grandson isn't facing 90mph sliders. 15u pitching has far less variables, and thus the average exit velo will be much closer to max. No matter what stat cast measurement your sort by, there is almost no correlation with top players. Guys who hit 35 home runs have ev 10 points lower than AAAA players. You might not have read my post; I refer to stat cast data several times. I simply deduced ev off a tee by subtracting the help of the...
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My point is it doesn't matter how you measure exit velocity, and it doesn't matter whether the players are MLB. You are choosing to ignore the trend based on the level the trend is measured at. I think the trend is probably true at any level. The facts are that the players are facing typically similarly talented competition. 15U players face 15U pitching, MLB caliber players face MLB caliber pitching. 15U hitters have 15U experience and strength...MLB players have...well..you know. Sso to...
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PG PBR and any college camp all measure it. The pools of talent MLB scouts look at have already been weeded out from those with weak measurables. Figuring out ev from a tee is useful as a comparison tool, and a progression stat. Gained 5 ev in a year? Studies say you can hit the ball 25 feet further, and those grounders in the hole might get through. Good luck finding me a player at a P5 with below an 88 ev from a tee.
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Re: Exit Velo during BP?
average or maximum? In game or off a tee? This is why scouts and coaches watch players play in games before offering or signing them.
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I am sure as the tech becomes more affordable and easily deployable, we will see it part of the recruitment game like the radar gun
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Re: Exit Velo during BP?
Due to the speed of the incoming pitch, exit velocity should be slightly higher. Not sure what it would really tell you though. Off a tee it gives you a baseline/metric for improvement.
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Re: Does Crossover Symmetry increase velo?
I question whether any post that is allegedly from a HS player is actually from a HS player. Regardless, here is some food for thought. Band work should be a part of every pitchers daily routine. The bands you purchased are fine and using them regularly will strengthen the rotator cuff - which will greatly reduce the chance of injury. You don't want to long toss every day. Mix in some drill work. Regarding the velo - success at 79 mph can have a lot to do with the fact that it is below bat...
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Re: Does Crossover Symmetry increase velo?
Maybe a marginal pickup in velocity. I think the real benefit of Crossover Symmetry is the focus on back muscles = decelerators. Look at it as maintenance / injury prevention.
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Re: Does Crossover Symmetry increase velo?
If you are near one of their office locations, ask to get some one-on-one time with one of their trainers. Son did this twice and it was very beneficial to him. Do not have any direct evidence that performing CS enhanced my son's velocity...it sure did not reduce it!
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Re: Flat Ground to Mound Velo?
In reality the reverse is the case most of the time. When throwing flat ground there is no thinking involved. Just natural athletic movements. When we evaluate a pitchers potential we look at flat ground first. Whatever a kid can do on flat ground he should be able to do on the mound - but hardly any do because they start thinking about their mechanics, slow everything down, and stop being an athlete. So many kids have been taught movements that kill momentum and reduce velocity. Those have...
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Re: Spin, Velo, Sticky Stuff and Trevor Bauer
Great talk? Maybe if you were introduced to baseball yesterday. If the words “data” and “sticky stuff” were removed from his presentation it would have been about 5 minutes long. The relevant info could be presented in a 2 minute TikTok video. That guy is a perfect illustration of why I can’t stand corporate America.
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Spin, Velo, Sticky Stuff and Trevor Bauer
Here is a great Ted Talk for anyone that appreciates the history of the game and also wants to understand why the pitching world is currently obsessed with spin rates. https://youtu.be/mlFtiC3_iQE
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Re: Bat exit velo vs inf arm velo
wood bat? Ive noticed both values tend to correlate. My kiddo was the other way; faster exit velo than pitch velo. He did recently unlock something in his pitching mechanics/ sequencing that got him up to correlation. if you cant find any low hanging fruit explanations as above perhaps the ubiquitous and ambiguous "use you lower half more" recommendation helps? All kidding aside working on hitting mechanics back hip coil/hinge, staying closed, rotate hips, strong front side etc Funny how...
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Re: Bat exit velo vs inf arm velo
Different mechanics for both...I don't think there's a true correlation. Son had 93 IF velo and exit velo 95ish when he was Sr in HS. He was 5'10 and 170. Now he's 93ish IF velo and exit velo 102ish, 5'10 and 185. He's stronger and now more efficient with his swing. His defensive skills were always a bit better than the bat, they're now balancing out nicely as a Sr in college.
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Bat exit velo vs inf arm velo
I am confused. My 16yr old has inf velo of 81. His exit velo hitting is 74? Can that be right? He is a strong hitter. As a general rule shouldn’t bat be greater than arm? I’m thinking one of these numbers is off. thanks
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Is the 74 EV on 1 particular swing that somebody got on radar, or is that his highest EV from a session? Exit velo can vary greatly based on how squarely the ball is hit, and where it hits on the barrel. The ball can affect it too, new baseballs vs old beat-up balls from a bucket can probably be up to a 5 mph difference.