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00 ·
closer to 4. Think about it. Stanton hit a home run with 112 mph exit velocity. It didn't go 560 feet. it went 434 I believe, so fairly close to 4 mph given angle and loft of homerun
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Dominik85 ·
It is not totally linear, air drag increases with EV so very hard hit balls don't go as much farther as you would expect. Also wind and temperature play a role.
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MidAtlanticDad ·
Lots of variables, but the main ones are launch angle and velo. Using Alan Nathan's trajectory calculator defaults, you're probably around 95 mph. http://baseball.physics.illino...-calculator-new.html
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Dadof3 ·
Like midatlantic dad said, lots of variables. It appears as though the chart above is probably taking into account a wood bat. BBCOR the velocity would be less, and non-bbcor/wood, even less.
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TheJR30 ·
BBCOR and woodbats perform the same as far as exit velocity. The BBCOR material was created to be a wood bat with a larger sweet spot.
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MidAtlanticDad ·
Actually, the bat isn't a factor in the trajectory calculator at all. It doesn't matter if you hit the ball with a drop-10 or a 36 oz maple... if the ball left the bat at 95 mph with a LA of 25 degrees, it's going to travel 351'. Other significant factors are headwind/tailwind, backspin, temperature and humidity.
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Dadof3 ·
Hate to disagree with you but bat composition does make a difference: https://www.elitediamondperfor...e-of-ball-exit-speed Another reason I know. My son just hit the ball 350', he is 13. He isn't doesn't have an exit velocity of 95+ - I guess I should say composition + COR. so a bbcor will outperform wood. ussa bats will outperform both.
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MidAtlanticDad ·
Your article is about all the factors involved that can impact the exit velocity (bat weigh, bat speed, bat construction). The trajectory calculator doesn't care about how the exit velocity was achieved, it's simply correlating EV, LA, and distance (after contact). Try it out for yourself. Below is the same chart when I give the batted ball a 7 mph tailwind. Maybe your son had a 7 mph tailwind and a 90 mph EV?
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TheJR30 ·
have tested this "phenomenon". To be exact, a wooden exit velocity may be one (1) mph slower than a bbcor. The entire idea behind BBCOR was to reduce exit speed to that of a wood bat for safety. USSSA bats will outperform both because the composition is entirely different. edit: Launch angle plays a big factor in velocity. A 350 foot frozen rope will have a much higher exit velocity than a moonshot/ Roy Hobbs type of hit. The rest MidAtlanticdad explained.
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Dadof3 ·
Good point, that is a definite possibility
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Smitty28 ·
I assume this chart is for play at sea level? Altitude, even 1000' (doesn't have to be in the mountains). will make a difference for sure.
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MidAtlanticDad ·
Correct. A link to the spreadsheet is above. (1,000' of elevation adds 4' to the 353 number in that chart.)
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DALEX ·
Have to agree with previous post that the figures on that chart do NOT MATTER in terms of bat used! You can try to sway me on that point, but you have to explain to me how a BPF 1.15 bat can somehow impart properties to a batted ball whereby that ball will travel farther than the laws of physics will allow! I believe bat speed is being confused with EV. YES, for a giving bat speed, the EV will be significantly higher for the BPF 1.15 bat than it would be for wood or BBCOR. BUT, the Exit...
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TheJR30 ·
USSSA BPF 1.15 bats do not defy physics, the type of composition coupled with a lighter swing weight is what causes greater EV. Bat speed commonly confused with exit velocity, but the two are very similar. Exit velocity is correlated with bat head velocity. I was not disagreeing with the chart, I was attempting to explain that bbcor and wood bats exhibit similar exit velocities.
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Learner ·
A ball hit with the same exact exit velo, launch angle, spin rate/axis and in the same exact conditions will go the exact same distance no matter what it was hit with. BBCOR vs Wood? The batted ball data would be different if you're looking at two identical swings put on identical pitches. In favor of the BBCOR I would assume.
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2022NYC ·
I clocked my kids EV with his 32" wood and BBCOR. There was a 3- mph difference in favor for the BBCOR (LS 517). He tried his friend's CAT8 and just wow, the EV was 3-5 mph higher than the LS 517 and he topped out at 99, what a bat! His Bday gift choice was made that day.
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103mph Exit Velocity and college recruiting

Peach49 ·
My 2021 Grandson wants to play D1 Baseball. He’s a GPA: 3.5 Student, 6’3”/210 Very athletic and plays OF/1B. We’ve been told his Metrics are outstanding. Exit Velocity: 103mph and is consistently 100+mph both off the Tee and in BP. Bat Speed: 78mph. 60 yard Dash time: 6.93, OF/velocity: 90mph. Through a lot of hard work he’s put on 20 pounds of muscle this past year and gotten noticeably “Bigger, Stronger & Faster”. We understand college recruiting will be impacted due to the NCAA giving...
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baseballhs ·
Get to a PBR event. They have the most recorded metrics as well as video. If he stands out, he will get interest. PBR California seems to have a strong social media presence.
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adbono ·
Getting recruited in the class of 2021 is going to be a challenge for all but the very elite players. A PBR event is a good idea. Look online for on campus camps within driving distance - especially Junior College camps. Those often have coaches from other schools that help run the camp and evaluate. California has an imbalance of supply and demand (more good players than D1 roster spots) under normal conditions. That situation will be worse for 2021s. Look at Junior College options and look...
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Peach49 ·
I want to thank everyone for their replies. I should have mentioned that my Grandson has been contacted by two D1’s, but they were both private schools Where even with a 25%-30% scholarship he was still looking at $40K+ per year which his parents can’t afford. He needs to go to a state school and most of those have been Player impacted due to Covid-19. He does have a few D2’s that are very interested and he may have to go that route. He’ll keep working and hopefully show well enough this...
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Peach49 ·
Hi Bob, My Grandson really likes Sonoma State and the coaching staff. You saw him hit at an SSU camp last fall where he hit 98 on HitTrax and now regularly hits 100+. His Travel ball coach, a SSU grad, says my grandson is a true D1 Power Hitting candidate but admits that due to Covid-19 finding a D1 spot will be challenging. We actually think SSU would be a great fit for our Grandson and he'd probably be very interested if they made him an offer. Patrick
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Consultant ·
Have you considered SSU? Maybe SRJC ranked 8 in Nation in academics and 4 in baseball. There will be 110 players in the Fall tryout at both schools. Bob
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RJM ·
I agree with “if he were a D1 prospect he would know by now.” However, I would add .... in the west (area you mentioned). Under normal circumstances there are far more D1 prospects in those states than available roster spots. Under COVID circumstances a lot of players who would have otherwise left with the draft and/or using up their eligibility will be returning. 2021’s are also starting to run up against the calendar. If he really wants to play D1 he may need to get seen on the other side...
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cabbagedad ·
That's good news. As has already been communicated here, there are limited D1's in that region, so to find the right D1 fit, he may have to go east. I can tell you that SSU and most of that conference play as good or better baseball than many of the mid major D1 conferences back east - in some cases, considerably better. So, if staying closer to home and taking advantage of the much lower in-state tuition are important, SSU or some of the other schools in that conference would make an...
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JCG ·
Peach, those numbers are great, but college coaches need to see him play. Have they? Does your grandson play for a premier travel organization like NorCal baseball? Most Pac12 , Big West, West Coast, and Mountain West players from the area do. They will get the right eyes on him. Even if he does not play for NorCal, he can and should play in the NorCal World Series (Google it) this summer, assuming it happens. Every D1 program in the West will be there. All your son has to do is ask his HS...
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LousyLefty ·
Peach, I love how much you love and support your grandson. There are very few coaches on here. He needs to send videos directly to any college coach he thinks may be a good fit. If it’s 10, if it’s 100. Put recent videos on YouTube and include a link to those and his PBR page. He needs to do this next step. The ball is in his court. I know creating a list can be overwhelming but now is the perfect time for him to do it. If it’s overwhelming then just do them all in alphabetical order. Or by...
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cabbagedad ·
Great advice by others. If he were a D1 recruit, particularly in your preferred region, he should know it by now. I know you said he put on a lot of muscle this past year but still... He may need to adjust his sight lines. That exit velo, throwing velo and size didn't ALL just come out of nowhere. What has he heard so far from D1 RC's? Is anyone contacting/following him? If not, why not? Not playing decent summer ball? No qualified advocates? More of a showcase guy than a gamer? Trying to...
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Peach49 ·
Bob, If by the 6th Tool you mean Hustle and having an overwhelming desire to win, my grandson definitely has it. He's a really hard worker and focused on his goal to play both college and Pro Baseball. Patrick
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Consultant ·
Does he know the 6 th tool and Informed Instinct? pro scouts and college coach have an understanding. Bob
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Peach49 ·
Below is a Blastmotion instagram video showing Radar gun. He is consistently high 90's to 103 https://www.instagram.com/p/CA...b_button_share_sheet
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Peach49 ·
Below is a Twitter Tweet sent out by Grandson's Travel ball team. Feel free to retweet. https://twitter.com/DubBasebal...574340896845825?s=19
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cabbagedad ·
Good lookin' kid. Nice BUT, if I'm him, I'd be asking the travel team to take and post another video clip. It may be just me but a swing-and-miss in the cage sort of sticks in my mind and takes away from the overall impression. JMO.
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Peach49 ·
Bob, Dub Baseball has done a complete player analysis package using all the latest technology that they will send out to any college showing interest. He's got real power and a frame that could easily put on another 20 pounds to his current 6'3"/210 athletic body.
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JCG ·
Peach: In case you don't know there's a program called Western Undergraduate Exchange that allows CA kids to attend other western public schools much less than regular out of state tuition. https://www.wiche.edu/wue
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Eokerholm ·
Nice!! Good to use the FGbats twitter for retweet. Now watch the views and reach explode. Check their handle on what to include. Don't see radar gun in video (hint, hint). Include his twitter account. You're welcome and good luck!!
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Eokerholm ·
right, you don't need to show us, you/they need to tweet and include that stuff in the tweet is what everyone is saying.....
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Consultant ·
Did the Dub Travel Team measure "Informed Instinct"? 6th Tool? Bob
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PABaseball ·
I've mentioned this on another post, but exit velo needs to be off a tee. A moving ball will have a higher exit velocity than off a tee. The second overall pick last year (and probably the second best HS bat I've ever seen live) topped at 100 mph. It's unlikely your grandson is at that level. Even then, exit velo isn't the important number. The important number is pitching velocity and how well he hits good pitching. Anybody can smack around 67 in the cage. How does he handle 85+ and how...
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Eokerholm ·
get your batting and skill video and tag ONLY his travel team and @flatgroundbats on twitter and they will retweet for you to get your views and exposure up. check out their website on what to include in the video. Also check out Rudd's twitter and youtube channel for tips directly from coaches on what to include in an email and video. https://twitter.com/jrudd_scou...252032601305088?s=21 I know you said Cali, but some state schools in other states, like GA have extra money given lottery...
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Consultant ·
Hustle can be inconsistency. The inside of the game. Read the bat, read the runner, read the pitcher. Study patterns. Where is the wind, the distance to left center, the moisture on the grass. The catchers stance. When is the cell phone disabled? Did he watch the pitcher warm up in the bullpen? Ted Williams did. Has he read the Willie May's books. Did you know Willie, he called the pitches from CF? This is informed instincts.l Bob
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Peach49 ·
Bob, I don't know if he does all the things you mentioned, but I have noticed that he's always in the game, watching the pitcher and the positioning of the defense. He has the ability to hit hard to all fields and has mentioned that he tried to hit the ball to a certain area because of the way the defense was aligned. Patrick
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Consultant ·
Thank you. If I coached today I would eliminate all cell phone two hours before the game or practice. Fine focus and concentrate. Body language tell me everything. Bob
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Dominik85 ·
I wonder why a 2021 who has recorded one of the highest EVs of all time who is big, runs sub 7 and throws 90 isn't committed to a D1 school yet. Has he not performed in games?
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adbono ·
A video was posted. Did you see it ? Enough said.
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adbono ·
I understand that you are an advocate for your grandson. Look at Junior Colleges.
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adbono ·
Thanks Bob. There is no doubt that the path to college baseball has become more difficult - especially for position players. Very few HS seniors are good enough to impact a good 4 yr school program as a freshman (or sophomore) even in normal times - much less now. With 2020 seniors returning and the talent pool being deeper than ever the challenge is great.
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Peach49 ·
My Grandson was among league leaders in ExtraBase hits in his Sophomore year. Junior year cut short due to Covid-19 but he again was a league leader in ExtraBase hits. He's been named to the All-Tournament team at all 4 of the Showcases he's attended after Sophomore year, but again due to Covid-19 there have been no Showcases this Summer for D1 coaches to see him. I should also mention that while he was good as a Sophomore he worked really hard putting on 25 pounds of muscle for his Junior...
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Consultant ·
Adbono your absolutely correct. each California JC will have over 150 candidates for their team this this year. In addition, 20 on loan from D-1 and D-2 schools. Probably the same in Texas, AZ, Oklahoma. Study the game, forget metrics Bob Gibson did not "give a hoot" about metrics. He watched your position in the batter's box, position of your hands, angle of your bat, your front foot and your eyes. Bob
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adbono ·
What is the point of this post? EV is only important if it can be produced in game conditions.
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Dominik85 ·
According to PG only 8 HS players have ever topped 103 at pg events. 103 is faster than the top hs draft picks Veen (99), howard (95) and hassell (91). Ev is very important but 103 is obviously super elite and once you get past a certain threshold (say mid 90s) it is probably more important to worry about making that power play in games rather than further pushing batspeed. I mean you need to hit 400 foot to hit pro ball bombs but there are no extra points for 450 foot.
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