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Perfect Game showcase exit velo bat

Boilermaker ·
My son is attending a Perfect Game showcase this weekend locally. He swings a bat with an Axe handle. I know PG uses wood, but do they have you use a standard bat (since they collect the Diamond Kinetics metrics) off the tee? Or are you allowed to use your own bat for the exit velocity measurement? I figure if he has to use a bat with a standard handle for any testing, he should get a few swings off the tee in the yard to prep.
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Exit Velo during BP?

B-MoreBeast ·
Was curious to see how many people here ever set up the gun for exit velocity readings? If you do, how does it compare with tee velos and the like. Thanks for your time.
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Exit Velocity for 340 feet off the tee?

TheJR30 ·
Hit at a field off the tee recently were the fence was 320 dead center. Consistenly hit the fence with one of my hits clearing the fence around 20 feet. What would be the exit velocity of a batted ball traveling 340 feet from a stationary position? Also if its possible what would be the bat speed of a swing of this type? Launch Angle? Thanks for your time and info if you respond, JR
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Exit velocity

Lpigs25 ·
I was wondering if there is any formula or if there is anyone that can tell me the exit velocity of a ball that goes 350 feet? Thanks
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Boilermaker ·
When my son participated in a showcase last year they had certain bats that they had to use in the cage off of a tee for the EV, but could use any wood bat in the games.
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Boilermaker ·
Boilermaker/KLL, can you let me know what they have/had him use and how much it ends up affecting his normal velo if you know what he’s normally around? Also do they offer muliple lengths for different sized players? I’m curious as we are looking at doing a PG showcase this year. Thanks.
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Boilermaker ·
It seems like they had an option of 32" or 33". It didn't really change what he normally gets. It's just a normal Marucci wood bat.
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Boilermaker ·
Exit Velocity seems to be getting more and more notice from scouts. My 2021 grandson attended the Baseball Factory/Under Armour Southwest Championship Showcase this summer. They did skills tests for Exit Velocity (Tee), Raw Throwing Velocity and the 60 yd Dash. He scored in the top 5 on every test, but his Exit Velocity was got special notice from scouts in that Every swing tested at 95mph. He also had Raw Throwing Velocity of 90mph which was the fastest for any non pitcher. His goal is to...
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Boilermaker ·
Exit Velocity seems to be getting more and more notice from scouts.?????? They did skills tests for Exit Velocity (Tee), .......Are we playing tee ball in high school now??? I go to a game I see a player hit the ball I see how the ball comes off the bat. I see how a pitcher throws. to all those who are in love with this new approach believe it or not the eyes see what they see.
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Boilermaker ·
It's just about having an objective measurement. The most objective stats are of course hitting production but in amateur ball you don't know if those stats were done against pitchers throwing 71 or 91 which is a huge difference. Of course there is also the eye test of an experienced scout but this is extremely subjective. Exit velo doesn't mean you can hit but it is a baseline for physical ability and it also means that there is a higher chance to succeed at higher levels. Of course in HS...
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Boilermaker ·
I used to use the wow factor. go see a game and you see a pitcher throw or a shortstop make a great play and you say wow.
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Boilermaker ·
In talking to a scouts at a recent showcase, I was told all these skills tests are just bench marks. Good testing can't tell you if a HS kid can hit at the D1 Level but it certainly can tell you who can't compete at the next level. A kid with 95mph Exit Velocity off the Tee may be able to hit at D1, a kid with 75 just can't. You still have to play the game but it is these skills tests that tell you which level a kid is best suited for.
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Boilermaker ·
Yeah it is like fastball velo, doesn't mean you can throw strikes if you can hit 95 but if you throw 75 it doesn't matter if you can throw strikes for higher levels.
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Boilermaker ·
Sorta like when my son was going to showcases and we would see a batter would hit many hard shots during the skills BP pitched with lobs from the L-screen. Then when the batter would play in the games, his line was K, K, K. "But we can teach him.. and when he hits the ball, it really goes"
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Boilermaker ·
Scouts have told me, Skills Tests tell you who has the potential to play at the next level. You still have to show ability in the game. They look at a lot of things before they offer a scholarship or consider a kid to draft. It seems if you're 6'2"/6'3" 180/200 can run <6.8, Raw Throw 92+, Exit Velocity 95+ you will get a great deal of interest. Coaches and scouts talk and if you have +Skills and can play word gets around. My 2021 grandson is 6'3"/195 very athletic with +Skills across the...
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Boilermaker ·
There are plenty of HS players with 95 mph tee exit velos who will never play college or pro ball. They are called showcase players, and when the things are moving at game speed and the pitched ball has spin and movement, sometimes they aren’t the best players on the field. D1 baseball, and all college baseball by and large, is not just about the HR ball. It’s about being a player who can be counted on to have an effective AB when the chips are on the line, whether that is a RBI single or a...
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Boilermaker ·
Absolutely, you have to be able to show your skills in a game. As I mentioned my grandson got on scouts radar due to his skills testing. That coupled with a 400'+HR over the Center field fence Verified he was worth being put on scouts follow list. He is just starting his Junior year and hopefully he'll continue to improve, but a lot can happen in 2 years so who knows.
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Boilermaker ·
420’ HR against live pitching?
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Boilermaker ·
Peach, if your grandson is raking like that, as a 2021, and isn’t committed already I would say something isn’t adding up.
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Boilermaker ·
By NCAA rules colleges weren't able to contact him until September 1 of his Junior year which was only a few days ago. He has been contacted by 6 different colleges. All said they were interested in him but none offered a scholarship which. We are hoping that his hard work will lead to some scholarship offers.
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Boilermaker ·
420' HR was in a game at CSU Monterey Bay.
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Boilermaker ·
Per NCAA rules, a team can be contacted by the player from the time they take their first breath. So, if a college coach sees a player they like prior to September 1 of their Junior year, they reach out to that player’s coaches (club or high school) and tell them to call them. Teams can offer a 9 year old if they want, age has nothing to do with it. Offering a scholarship and verbally committing are a component of finally getting to the National Letter of Intent, but you won’t get to sign...
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Boilermaker ·
Thanks for your input. We understand this will be a very important year for my grandson and he is working with a baseball specific trainer to be the best he can be. He's got good size, speed, +Arm, and ++Power, so hopefully his dreams will turn into offers by the end of his Junior year.
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Boilermaker ·
Also, if his game is how you describe, you are going to want offers to the strongest programs possible to use as leverage for any potential signing bonus negotiations. If he is a pro prospect, I’m a little surprised there isn’t an offer already. That usually happens prior to or concurrent with pro scouts taking notice.
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Boilermaker ·
Grandson's goal is to get drafted or play for a major college program. He's always been a good player but it wasn't until this summer that we saw these astronomical gains in strength and speed. In the last 6 months his Raw Throwing went from 76 to 90+mph. Exit Velocity off the Tee, from 84 to 95+mph, 60 Speed from 7.4 to 6.92, Size from 6'2"/175 to 6'3"/195 of muscle. We're planning on putting together a Profile with links to videos and sending it to all the colleges on his wish list.
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Boilermaker ·
Gotcha. You seem to be a big fan of your grandson. Keep encouraging him and keep yourself grounded on your expectations for him.
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Boilermaker ·
Peach does he have the 6 th tool? Bob
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Boilermaker ·
Bob, I can answer your question by saying my Grandson is a truly focused athlete that never gives up. He's a quite kid that leads by example, working hard both on and off the field. Hopefully all his dreams will come true. I know I can count on him doing everything he can to be the best player and person he can be.
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Boilermaker ·
If your grandson performed that way all summer, coaches should be asking him to call...regardless of Sept. 1. Does he play for a travel team that assists with recruiting? Most kids throwing 90 before junior year have offers. There is definitely more to it than stats. My son hasn’t picked up a bat during summer or showcases since before sophomore year but these were his showcase stats last time he did...he’s now a PO. Can hit for power, when he connects, which isn’t often enough to win the ...
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Boilermaker ·
Btw mlb hitters who can hit more than 25 homers mostly have a max EV of 110+. A pitched ball at 90 at best adds like 15-16 mph vs a stationary ball with ideal contact so to hit 110 you would have to be able to hit 95 off the tee. The elite power guys max at 115 so they would need to hit 100 off the tee. Of course there are also non great hitters who can hit 110 in a game but still that is a baseline you need to hit when you want to get to the highest level
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TheJR30 ·
Unless there is a math professor on this site, you can't extrapolate the EV with only 1 value (distance). Great hittin' tho.
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TheJR30 ·
Ahh, it's somewhere in the low 90s. Depends on the wind, of course, elevation, etc. The below chart (90 mph = 325 feet) is for throwing, but the physics is the same.
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TheJR30 ·
NYC is correct. Need all the factors. What we can say however is that if the ball is struck with OPTIMUM launch angle on a windless day in completely average conditions 80mph = about 300 feet. I see 2019's chart says 275. There are different charts with different results but 80=300 is the most common I have seen. Then its five feet for every MPH from there. so 90 = 350 feet and 100 = 400 feet. A little helping breeze can affect those numbers more than you think. Thus you may see a MLB game...
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TheJR30 ·
As a matter of fact... http://baseball.physics.illino...-calculator-new.html Sooooooo many variables, but here are some simplified examples at 50 degrees F (since JR appears to be in MD). - LA of 25, EV = 94.1 mph - LA of 30, EV = 92.9 mph
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TheJR30 ·
I hit a 350ft no wind HR off a tee with BBCOR bat, but Zepp says my bat impact speed is 52mph, with a max of 60mph. Weird? I only swung 70mph with a BESR so I think it's accurate.
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TheJR30 ·
Something is amiss there. Not a physical possibility to hit a ball 350 feet with a barrel speed of 52mph. I suspect poor performance by the zepp.
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TheJR30 ·
from my experience zepp tends to be really off. One swing I had a 70 mph bat speed and the next 81. Same technique and mechanics, I think diamond kinetics is the big deal now
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B-MoreBeast ·
My grandson took part in an NCTB Showcase this past weekend and posted 95mph Exit Velocity during BP. After his 1st swing they started videoing him and Tweeted the video. He is only 15 and we were told this velocity was near the best in the nation for Sophomores.
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B-MoreBeast ·
Something I found: So I Measured my Exit Velocity, NOW WHAT? (Average exit velocity by age) Now that you know your exit velocity, you can see where you sit among your peers. Here’s the breakdown of what is considered an exceptional exit velocity among each age group: Ages 8-10: 55-65 mph Ages 11-13: 60-70 mph Ages 14-15: 75-80 mph Ages 15-16 (High School JV): 80 mph aluminum/ 75 mph wood Age 16-18 (High School Varsity): 90 mph aluminum/ 85 mph wood Collegiate: 95 mph aluminum/ 90 mph wood...
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B-MoreBeast ·
Interesting, but this doesn't paint the whole picture. First, who is categorizing these exit velos with the level of play, because there are quite a few guys in the MLB currently who, by this chart, would be somewhere between JV and Varsity ball players. Just saying, this needs context. Is this average exit velo or maximum exit velo? For many batters, the difference between average and maximum is 20-25 MPH, sometime more. That is a pretty sizeable difference, and no disrespect to anyone on...
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B-MoreBeast ·
Average exit velo on statcast for an MLB player has a much wider range because it's being taken in game against elite pitching. In my experience recording exit velos off a tee, the range is usually 3-5 mph from their max out. Someone who tops at 95 off the tee is sitting in the 89-93 range, 75 mph would be a pop up to the pitcher. The OP asks about bp. It's been studied that 1 mph of pitch velocity equates to .20 added exit velo. So bp exit velos should be about 6 mph harder. From evaluating...
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B-MoreBeast ·
So, instead of using the available data from statcast, which is pretty much the gold standard, we should speculate? My point is this: sure, all of these players are capable of generating exit velos off a tee in an artificial setting with no real variables. But a pitched baseball is the biggest variable of them all, and the average exit velo for these players tells me that it really doesn’t matter what is measured off the tee, because on average you aren’t going to produce that during a game.
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B-MoreBeast ·
The stat cast average ev is irrelevant because peaches grandson isn't facing 90mph sliders. 15u pitching has far less variables, and thus the average exit velo will be much closer to max. No matter what stat cast measurement your sort by, there is almost no correlation with top players. Guys who hit 35 home runs have ev 10 points lower than AAAA players. You might not have read my post; I refer to stat cast data several times. I simply deduced ev off a tee by subtracting the help of the...
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B-MoreBeast ·
My point is it doesn't matter how you measure exit velocity, and it doesn't matter whether the players are MLB. You are choosing to ignore the trend based on the level the trend is measured at. I think the trend is probably true at any level. The facts are that the players are facing typically similarly talented competition. 15U players face 15U pitching, MLB caliber players face MLB caliber pitching. 15U hitters have 15U experience and strength...MLB players have...well..you know. Sso to...
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B-MoreBeast ·
PG PBR and any college camp all measure it. The pools of talent MLB scouts look at have already been weeded out from those with weak measurables. Figuring out ev from a tee is useful as a comparison tool, and a progression stat. Gained 5 ev in a year? Studies say you can hit the ball 25 feet further, and those grounders in the hole might get through. Good luck finding me a player at a P5 with below an 88 ev from a tee.
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B-MoreBeast ·
average or maximum? In game or off a tee? This is why scouts and coaches watch players play in games before offering or signing them.
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B-MoreBeast ·
I am sure as the tech becomes more affordable and easily deployable, we will see it part of the recruitment game like the radar gun
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B-MoreBeast ·
Due to the speed of the incoming pitch, exit velocity should be slightly higher. Not sure what it would really tell you though. Off a tee it gives you a baseline/metric for improvement.
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Lpigs25 ·
I have always heard its 4 feet per mph. Seems to be pretty accurate given MLB statcast homeruns data so 350/4= 87.5 87-88mph is
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Lpigs25 ·
Really I’ve usually heard that it’s 5 feet per 1mph, just didn’t know if it was truly realistic.
 
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