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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

D1__ ·
As far as mistakes I believe that I didn't seek out a better travel program to play with until this year, previously I played with a mediocre team that didn't help me develop or get exposure, another mistake would be not making a high quality recruiting video like others that i know, and lastly I'd say my training I've played Varsity since freshman year and as soon as I got there my High School coach was serious about baseball players not lifting weights so for my first and second years of...
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

Goosegg ·
What are your grades and scores? Whatever those are, identify the schools which would recruit a player with your academic profile. Then, evaluate which of those schools recruit players who you believe have equal or less baseball skills than yours. That subset (the point at which a school(s) finds its way onto both lists) are the total schools with whom you would have a shot. Factor in your financial ability to pay and your geographic limitations (if any) and the list winnows down further. Of...
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

D1__ ·
Thank you that helps a lot, appreciate it.
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JCG ·
Not a huge fan of prospect camps in general but once you have followed Goosegg's excellent suggestions it might be smart to invest in camps at any schools that fit your list. We have known a couple kids who have gotten offers this way.
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

baseballmom ·
While I agree with Goose' really good outline, I wouldn't pooh-pooh the JUCO that is interested just yet. Find out where those players feed into. There is nothing wrong with 1-2 yrs at a JUCO, as long as it's heading you in the right direction. Make sure all/most the credits transfer.
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

Prepster ·
You admit to having made a few tactical mistakes along the way; but, you are to be roundly commended for taking overall responsibility for your recruitment. I've always felt that too many players were willing to acquiesce to their parents' inclination to step in and run their son's process. In your case, you're demonstrating a great deal about your "makeup" that will mean something to many of the recruiters who are given an opportunity to know that you have it. Your self-drive and...
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

rynoattack ·
#LameComment
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

rynoattack ·
Grades are huge, and like Goosegg suggests, fall showcases. Get to the Arizona Fall Classic if you can. Tons of coaches from all around the country will be there.
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

rynoattack ·
I agree. JUCO could be a nice fit...
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

D1__ ·
Thanks I'll make sure to look into that showcase.
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

BOF ·
You are small, with limited arm strength and power and are slow. You are not going to play at a D1, period. Christopher Newport is a top D3 program and has D1 talent on that team (at least the middle infielders) , so don't waste your time at a top 20 D3 program. You can check out D3 programs at d3baseball.com to find a programs that might fit you. All that said, if you want to contribute to a program you will have to find a D3 that has a combination of what you can afford, matches your...
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

Matt13 ·
Focus on schools with the idea that you aren't going to play baseball...because honestly, you're probably not going to. If you do that, and end up making the team, then great--that's a nice bonus. At this point, though, baseball is probably telling you that it's over.
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

Louise ·
If you have good grades and test scores Headfirst has a "last call" for seniors in the Fall in Florida. Know a few kids that got D3 offers in the past from attending that session.
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

TPM ·
I really like BOFS straight forward reply. With that said, I also agree with baseballmom's advice. Why be he'll bent on going to a 4 year d1 where you might get a late pick up but chances are you may sit more than you will play. Just remember that if you committ to a JUCO, you can committ later to a D1. However, this might be your best option, in 2 years you will have another even better option than what you are facing now. One more thing, don't blame others because you are not where you...
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

Twoboys ·
Wow, going to be devil's advocate for the OP as well as other 2018 who may read this. It is July of your rising senior year. Yes, many D1 schools are done and much of the scholarship money has long been committed. But there are many schools (D1 included) who are still looking to add an arm, add a player they need or even just like...many commitments continue to happen, but you have to be focused on the right level academically (unclear from OP where that might be) as well as baseball talent...
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

D1__ ·
Thanks for the reply but I never said I was hell bent on a D1 just trying to get a 4 year, and if you actually read my post you'd see I have taken responsibility and I'm working hard to get somewhere I'll make sure to @ you when I'm playing at the next level...
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

TPM ·
I read over your first post, and it was my assumption that you are focusing on D1 programs. You did blame your coach for lack of training, but now I understand that you are taking personal responsibility. You have not responded regarding your grades or test scores which is the x factor in getting an opportunity to play college baseball at any 4 year program. I do understand that you feel you are a better player than some, have you ever gotten an evaluation on your skills? That more than...
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

RJM ·
Contact coaches directly. Be prepared to sell. Promote your best attributes. Be prepared to defend your negatives. Do not lie. Ask these coaches where you can get in front of them this summer or fall. If you call you have about twenty seconds to attract interest. It's the nature of a sales call. If you do well the conversation will go further. You will know if you're being blown off. If you email the coaches you're at the mercy of them returning an email. You don't have a lot of time to...
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

D1__ ·
As far as grades my GPA is a 3.6 and I take the Sat next month, evaluation wise when I got an evaluation I was told to focus on D3 and Juco possibly sum D1 HBCU's (Norfolk ST, Coppin State, etc)
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

TPM ·
I went back and saw that you have made a post once before about this and asking if you should not play your senior season. Lots of advice as to play travel this summer but perhaps you played in front of the wrong programs. Good luck.
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

D1__ ·
I'm sorry if I confused you in my post I'm actually located in Virginia.
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TPM ·
Concentrate on those suggestions given to you.
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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?

RJM ·
Whoops! Confused you with someone else. Go to the D3.com website someone suggested. Click on teams. Click on region. Click on teams in your region. Find their league standing. Chances are if the top teams aren't after you at this point they're not interested. They recruit. Look at the .500 teams. What I posted about calling coaches still applies. You don't have time to waste. You should make your calling list over the next couple of days and be on the phone Wednesday morning.
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Re: 2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

leftyshortstop ·
I want to be completely honest with the poster about the number and odds for the "crafty lefty" pitcher in top academic baseball. The very high academic school my son plays for has only one. That player only does late inning mop up work and gets hit very hard. For that matter, we have a 6'3" lefty who throws north of 85 who is a weekend starter and gets hit very hard if his breaking stuff isn't on. So here are the odds at our school. The coaching staff recruits nationally for only 6 "tips"...
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Re: 2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

AcademicsFirst ·
Thanks craftyshortstop.....great info from someone who is currently watching heir son play D3 baseball. He still has two more years left, so we'll see where his velo ends up but I'm assuming if he get into the low 80s, he may get some looks being a lefty and with his grades. if not...im sure he'll go to a good University, join a fraternity and have just as good a time. ....remembering that most of these HS and college players will never make a living playing baseball. Good luck to your so...
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Re: 2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

web's dad ·
AcademicsFirst, You're getting a lot of good advice here. A good reality check. Your son is not "projectible". He's a grinder. You seem to be doing all the right things to give your son the best chance to figure out where he belongs. Your son's academics will open doors for him. For the "grinders", at some point it becomes a matter of how hard he is willing to work. Web is a "grinder". He surpassed more physically gifted players because he was willing to out work them. Don't give up on...
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fenwaysouth ·
Totally agree with web's dad. AF - You have a dialogue in the top right box of the web page.
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AcademicsFirst ·
Thanks webs dad and you are definitely right. He's always fought the battle of being a smaller kid even back through playing Pony ball, so it's nothing he isn't use to. Hoping he can grow another 3-4" in the next year and a half, which would put him at 6'. He's playing on a Connie Mack team this summer, besides for playing on his Varsity summer team, so he'll go up against some solid hitters all summer long, which should help him. Yeah, that's what I love about this site...such great...
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Re: 2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

cabbagedad ·
Originally Posted by AcademicsFirst: ..Hoping he can grow another 3-4" in the next year and a half, which would put him at 6'. ... AF, I know you commented on the reaching 6' partially in jest but be careful with that. I had that type of dialog with my son and it took him longer than it should have to accept his height and focus totally on what he can do with what he has instead of what he can't do because of what he doesn't have. If sub-6' is likely to stick, keep pointing out the players...
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AcademicsFirst ·
Cabbage...you are absolutely right. It's kinda funny because he always tells me you grow when you sleep, so he try's to get as much sleep as he can, which usually means going to bed earlier than I thought he would. But we really don't talk about height too much. He knows it will be what it is...and no, I'm 5'10 and his mom 5'7, so we didn't get that lucky. He eats very healthy and he try's to have a protein shake once a day after practice, so the rest will be left up to nature.
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Re: 2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

Picked Off ·
AF All good posts here. I know of a crafty lefty here in CA that 2 years ago max'd out 78 at a PG Showcase listed at 5'8" 140 lbs. Our travel team faced him several times over the years & struggled to make solid contact.He is now listed at 5' 11' 175 lbs. & I'm told he sits mid 80's. and is still known as a crafty lefty. He committed to a DI high academic school this past November. I'm sure grades had a lot to do with it, but being a crafty lefty did as well. My point is that your...
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Re: 2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

fenwaysouth ·
In the context of most D3 academic schools.......If your screen name reflects his desires, his future academics and baseball team will most likely be determined by continued strong GPA and future SAT/ACT scores. Top academic schools recruit their baseball players through academics . Occidental and Hopkins are examples, but there are more such as the NESCAC conference. So, he'll want to be one of the best baseball players to get the coaches "tip", and have the best grades to get the...
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Re: 2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

MidAtlanticDad ·
Check the on-line rosters of the teams that you mentioned (Oxy, UCSD, CSM, etc). Height and weigh don’t tell the whole story, but it should give you an idea of what’s typical. Of course, focus on the LHPs. You might also find profiles for some of those kids on the Perfect Game site, and that will list their pitching velocity. Also, use the Perfect Game site to see the recent classes who committed to schools that he is interested in. The “College Commitments” list will link you to player...
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J H ·
Not to sound blunt or rude, but I'd suggest taking a step back and waiting until he plays varsity baseball before looking at college baseball. Lots can happen in that timeframe.
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AcademicsFirst ·
Thanks guys...as always, great advice. Speaking to a local ex scout who runs a Connie Mack and scout team here in Socal, said that there is college baseball out there for everyone if they are realistic, so I've always tried to keep things in perspective. JH...you're not gonna hurt my feelings. Like I've said, I've never told my son or thought he would ever make $ playing baseball. He's always fought through not passing the eye test, but he's still growing and has gotten where be has cause he...
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Re: 2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

J H ·
AcademicsFirst- Good thought process. I apologize if I came off as blunt, I've just seen a lot of people in your position going way overboard in relation to the process. I've seen 96 mph fastballs in D3 baseball and 75 mph fastballs in D1 baseball. The only thing you can do as a player is work as hard as you can to be the best you can possibly be, both in the classroom and on the field. Once the time comes, getting a gauge of where you stand is easier than some think. If you get yourself...
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cabbagedad ·
Participation in the SoCal Scout league along with acceptance and attendance at the better Stanford camp (and/or a PG event) will give you both a real good idea where he stacks up. I've heard that statement about "there's a college for every player" before and I don't really agree. Realistically, the average player will finds it very surprising how competitive even most D3's and NAIA's are. Many decent/average HS players (not saying your son is), have to be willing to travel to the far...
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AcademicsFirst ·
Great points Cabbage...haha, if his velo stays where it is for the next two years, I'll be the first one telling him to go get his degree from Berkley or UCLA. He works out weekly with Trevor Bauer's pitching coach he had when he was in HS, so we'll see how his strength and velocity increases this next year. In the meantime, I'm just thankful he doesn't NEED baseball to get into a good College. Playing baseball would just be an added bonus.
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AcademicsFirst ·
Thanks J H...I totally agree with you.
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RJM ·
Check out Head First showcases. They're for kids who are more academically inclined.
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Re: Best showcases for Canadian catcher

RJM ·
You don’t target every college program there is. You need to have an idea where he potentially fits in. Otherwise you will waste thousands of dollars on the wrong showcases. You don't just throw spaghetti off the wall to see what sticks. He needs to sit down with a baseball knowledgeable person who knows his game. They need to determine what level of college ball he might be able to play. Then you pick conferences at that level. Then you determine which schools in the conferences would also...
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Re: Best showcases for Canadian catcher

Branson Baseball ·
John S, RJM is spot on. Your son starts by creating a vetted list of colleges that are a fit for him. Vetted academically and athletically by him, you, his coaches, his guidance counselor, scouts, other third parties, etc. Once that list is compiled, he reaches out to the baseball coaches and the admissions reps of the schools on his list. Engaging the baseball coaches is always important. Engaging the Admissions reps and expressing interest is particularly important at D3 and at schools...
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Consultant ·
John S; Ohio University offers a Major in Sports Management. The Blue Jays have a scout team in Toronto. Have you contacted a Toronto Blue Jays scout? Bob "founder" of the Area Code games.
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Re: Advice On Transferring After/ During Freshman Year

MidAtlanticDad ·
Welcome to the forum. I'm also sending you a Private Message. The are some rules that are unique to your situation that you should be aware of (e.g. D2 and D3 eligibility is measures in full-time semesters not calendar years, did you sign a NLI, were you recruited by other schools, etc.). You can also call the NCAA Eligibility Center directly with specific questions. How will you get seen if you're not playing? You won't be. You'll have to rely mostly on the people who recruited you out of...
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cabbagedad ·
Lots of good info from Midatlanticdad... I will add that you can also look to any well connected travel coaches, instructors or HS coaches you've had recently that may be able to refer you. Many JC's are constantly on the lookout for players in the very situation you describe (to pick up for spring semester). You may also inquire about NAIA schools. I can't speak specifically to the rules but I think there may be more flexibility and I know many of those schools also bring in players for...
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AthleteDD ·
Appreciate your incite especially in regards to NAIA, I hadn't considered that before.
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Re: Advice On Transferring After/ During Freshman Year

cabbagedad ·
Absolutely. I would be screwing up if I didn't include... You mentioned the free ride and likely roster spot next year at current school. Baseball is a really important piece to most aspiring college baseball players but try to make sure you are keeping the 40 yr plan in front of the 4 yr plan.
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RJM ·
I completely understand wanting to continue to play college ball. But if not a D1/potential pro prospect ... If you’re at the right academic school at the right price what about staying there and playing summers in a competitive semi pro league?
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D1catcher ·
Go juco at semester if you’re transferring. Don’t wait and waste time when you have a chance to develop at a juco
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Re: Advice On Transferring After/ During Freshman Year

PABaseball ·
If you're not a pro prospect the goal is to get an education at the lowest possible cost. You're going to school for free. Baseball is great, but most kids are using it as a means to reduce the cost of college and play a few more years. If you had a 10% scholarship I would be giving different advice, but I would have a very hard time walking away from a free education. It sounds like you will be in a decent position on the depth chart once the seniors leave. I'd stick it out, especially with...
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