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HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Dirtbag30 ·
My 2020's tournament schedule this Summer has narrow openings for showcases and this is likely the only out-of-town one he can do one. Problem is, HF and SB are both having one at the same times with schools he's interested in at both. Some schools have representatives at both but SB says it is "all head coach" showcase. He's looking at HA D1 and D3 schools. Wondering if anyone else is encountering problem of deciding between the two for this weekend. Research of past posts suggests that...
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3and2Fastball ·
Depends on several factors. It is a very good question and I'll be following along with interest. #1 Question: have any of these coaches had contact with him & expressed interest? #2 Question: has he gotten advise from reliable 3rd Party people as to what level & conference he likely fits in? #3 Question: what position does he play?
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Dirtbag30 ·
3and2F: From reading posts, we are clearly are behind in the whole recruiting dance, partly due to him being a young 2020 and late bloomer. He hasn't reached out to coaches yet and understands he's that will hurt him (particularly for D1) because so many likely have their classes set. So, I guess the real question is it too late for him at this point, particularly for D1, so the trip may not be worth it. He's probably looking D3 with some hope of getting attention of some HA D1 schools. OFer...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

3and2Fastball ·
A 6.8 60 w/ 87 throwing velocity & 89 Exit Velo means he can absolutely play in college, it is just a matter of the right fit... Are those measureables verified through a 3rd Party & available online (such as PBR or Perfect Game)? If so I would have him send a link with "2020 6.8 60" and his ACT score in the email heading to the recruiting coordinators of the school's he is interested in. I doubt that every single HA D1 has finished recruiting 2020's... the big advantages of HF &...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Gov ·
If the focus is D3 no issues with timing. If your son is a position player with a solid glove and a big bat, he won't be late for D1 HA. Regardless of which camp your son attends he has to be prepared to show his stuff. My 2018 went to both HF and Showball Camps. Both are quality showcases run differently. Showball is faster paced, the coaches are very involved in moving it along. They know what they're looking for and don't need a billion looks at a kid. I would do the Showball Showcase in...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Dirtbag30 ·
Unfortunately, no! Trying to find a PG showcase for that reason. In the meantime, he's going to prepare his own footage to circulate. I've read that some coaches (Yale) say to video the 60 on a football field so they can make sure it's legit. So, until we can get a verifiable source, I don't think we're optimistic that emailing his times will matter. Along those lines, I asked HeadFirst if there optional video recording included the 60 and the answer was no. So, it seems only PG offers a...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

3and2Fastball ·
PBR is a verifiable format and much less expensive. I like Perfect Game more because of the game formats they play in addition to the measureables, but to just get measureables verified, PBR is great. Check to see if there is an upcoming one in your area.
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Gov ·
I would not be paying the premium to PG just to get the 60 verified. Tucker Frawley at Yale is a stickler for how he wants to see video... In your son's email to Frawley or others just offer the measurables, plus video of his swing and fielding. When you attend Showball in June you'll get the verified 60. Save your money and attend a second Showcase late July / early August. The HC for Yale will be at Showball…. If Frawley likes the fielding and hitting video, believe me your son will be on...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Dirtbag30 ·
Harvard has scheduled one of their prospect camps specifically for the SB July 15 showcase in Boston, so you can do both, which is cool. But that would be three straight days of showcasing (after finishing a week long PG tournament). I've read on here that a two-day showcase is very grueling on its own.
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

3and2Fastball ·
Yes. A 2 Day Showcase can be plenty grueling. Lots of reps, lots of playing with high adrenaline. Then there are all sorts of factors you cannot control (such as it turns out to be playing in 90+ degree heat, or how much the kid played recently with his travel team, or travel delays that can eat into sleep/rest etc). I would stay away from 3 straight days of Showcasing, if at all possible.
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nycdad ·
Big fan of PBR, but it seems to depend on your area. Here in NYS they do a very good job promoting their participants well after their showcases.
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57special ·
2018 also got a late start, though he had had contact with some HA D1 and D3 schools in his junior year. He went to both Showball and HF as a rising n Senior, and far preferred HF, but I know of a local kid who is playing on Columbia because of the impression he made at Showball. My guy has similar stats...slightly less hitting velo, but a OF velo in the 90's, which got him some of attention. Definitely able to pick it at SS, or CF, and speedy. We used to PBR as a place to verify his stats.
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

anotherparent ·
July/August is mostly too late for D1s, because HA D1s go to watch you play in summer tournaments in June and early July, if they're interested. To get them interested, send emails now with measurables, SAT/GPA, video, and summer schedule; definitely do video the 60 on a football field and send that along with the other video. If you can get verifiable measurables early in the summer (I agree PBR is good) then you can send that before summer travel play, too. And, ask your summer travel team...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

letsgo!!! ·
Try to get to your State's PBR Top Prospect Game - in my experience this was a critical step in my son's recruitment as a rising senior/late bloomer - the event occurred prior to the summer ball season, was heavily recruited and provided tape and verifiable stats. That exposure, coupled with tape/stats allowed him to have meaningful communication in advance of key summer tournaments (wwba, etc) where they ultimately saw him play. I would also leverage the PBR event in advance of whatever...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

PABaseball ·
I know it wasn't your question but... Try to work an Area Code invite. I can't speak for the D3s, but the D1s will be there and they will be paying very close attention to the uncommitted players. Even if he doesn't make the team, I don't think there is a better event for uncommitted players. Right before the summer season starts so if they like him, they'll be following. Also a good measuring stick to see how he stacks up against other D1 talent.
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

CTbballDad ·
Start sending emails now!! If he's too busy with school and his HS team, you send them from his email account if you have to (write as if you were 17). It's not too late for HA D1 or D3. Do not solely rely on getting noticed at a Showcase, it's a pipe dream to put bluntly. Same with tournaments...your son needs to be on their radar so they come to watch him. I have many examples of my son getting recruited/calls/texts from coaches who were at those Showcases, while we were home saving...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

letsgo!!! ·
I would not ghostwrite emails for my son. If he thinks he is to busy in high school to "own" his recruitment he will get killed when he shows up on campus.....it truly is a fulltime job. I also think sending emails without verifiable stats and good video will yield poor results. He should spend time now identifying 20 to 30 schools of interest, acquire contact info, etc and get ready to go as soon as you have stats/tape....getting stats/tape should be the priority
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

nycdad ·
Does you son's travel team have relationships with any the schools your son is interested in? Will there be, or is there a reasonable chance coaches from the schools your son is interested in will be at those tournaments? My son attended 4 college camps in the fall and Feb. In each case he had been in contact with the RC, and his summer team coach had been in contact with the RC. I do think it's a waste to attend college camps blind so to speak. My son is a 2020 and everything he'll be doing...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Dirtbag30 ·
So PBR just sent him (upon request and some more info) an invite to their "Top Prospects (invite only)" event in May. PBR is fairly new to GA and took over the LakePointe facility from Perfect Game last year (I believe) so I'm not familiar with it and don't know whether college coaches will be there. Anyone have experience in GA with one? Regardless, the event does include laser timed 60s, video clips, etc. and is not too expensive so I assume there's no downside and he should do it.
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

3and2Fastball ·
Very doubtful that any coaches will be at a PBR Showcase. However the results and profile from a PBR Showcase can be very helpful to include in emails and communications with coaches, provided of course one or a few of the measureables are in line with what the coaches are looking for...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

nycdad ·
Not at showcases, but their bigger events will have coaches. Both my kids got invites to the NYS Games up at Birmingham after participating in their pre-season showcases. That event usually has a lot of RC's from Northeast schools.
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

57special ·
In our area they have lots of local and semi local RC's and HC's at the PBR events that have games. Juco's, D3's, D2'sand D1's, probably NAIA, too.
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

3and2Fastball ·
Yes! The PBR events that have games are a different story.
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PABaseball ·
I will second what 3and2 said. Coaches are in season and not many players are doing in season showcasing. Probably best to hold off for now. Get the numbers when more coaches will be present. I will also add that if your kid wants to go to a HA school in the northeast, a PBR showcase in GA will not help him get in front of those schools. I'm not sure how many HA schools there are in the south, but recruiting happens regionally. So if he wants schools in another region you have to head their...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

3and2Fastball ·
I didn't even think about the fact that the PBR is in May. Doubtful that coaches will be there in the middle of their season, you are correct I second what PABASEBALL said about trying to get an Area Codes invite. That can be a very tough invite to get, but can really open doors.
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

fenwaysouth ·
So, my experience was a few years ago. My son was looking at the same level schools you are considering. We focused on traditional D1s, D1 Ivy and D1 Patriot up to the middle of August. He played PG WWBA and a handful of national tournaments plus select camps, and was able to get some local D1 offers at some very good schools before August. We signed up for HeadFirst back in February of that same year as an "insurance policy" just in case something didn't work out in the early part of the...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Dirtbag30 ·
Thanks for the helpful comments. He's got the GPA/SAT that put him well within the 50% range of admission standards for the HA schools he's in which he's most interested. We were looking at the early May PBR showcase as a way to get some verified metrics (recommended by several posters) and video he could forward to coaches in advance of his summer season, where he'll be playing events most of these coaches will likely attend (PG/PBR/WWBA). Anyone see a downside to that even if RCsare...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

3and2Fastball ·
Yes, attending the PBR in order to get verifiable measureables and videos, in order to send to coaches, is a smart move. (In my opinion) I wouldn't sweat the college far from home thing. I have a 27 year old son and a 16 year old. Typically when kids go off to college, you'll be lucky if they spend summers with you in their freshman/sophomore years (less likely for ballplayers as they'll be playing summer ball somewhere). After that you'll see them for a week at Christmas, or even just a few...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

57special ·
So true. My eldest does his best to spend some "quality time" with my wife and I when he comes home, then he's out the door, or in his room with the door closed. He's a great kid, so I'm not complaining.
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

3and2Fastball ·
My eldest attended a mid major about an hour or so away for undergrad, and then a high academic halfway across the country for grad school. Once he got past Soph year of college, I didn't see him any more or less when he was halfway across the country. I mean c'mon, if you were 20 years oldwould you want to hang out with Dad on winter break watching NFL games or go to Miami with your buddies?! I definitely do cherish the time I have with him though.
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Dirtbag30 ·
Come on. I'm sure once in college my kid will be calling me constantly ... for money. lol
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Backstop22 ·
Regarding the HC versus Asst. Coach question, that is more relevant for the D3's versus D2 and D1. It is definitely a plus to be seen by the D3 HC at one of the events, while the other division HCs tend to lean more on the RCs anyway, so you can gain interest from the HC if the RC likes you. And as others have said, the HF showcase is designed much better for having opportunities to actually talk to the coaches. It is a big plus that HF focuses on getting the coaches and players around each...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Dirtbag30 ·
So, as to HF vs. Showball, what do you think if his summer ball schedule only allows for the July 15-16 showcases. That weekend has all 8 Ivy HCs at SB (two coaches from some schools). Seems that leaves HF as second fiddle during that time. If we can only do that time period, wouldn't it be best to do the Showball since most HCs will be there, even if HF's format is preferable?
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Gov ·
Been to both... Diff formats...I do not consider one better than the other. Personally thought Showball was a no BS efficiently run Showcase w all coaches involved to move it along. Which college coaches from the schools your kid is suitable to play for will be attending which showcase ? I think Showball HC in June then HF in July-Aug is best combo. For the Ivy’s they have most of their rosters sort of set by July-Aug with Exception of 1-2 P’s and big hitting position guy. If your son...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Dirtbag30 ·
Same here! Salud!
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Tampa2020 ·
Simple question for those who have experience with HF & Showball ... will this get any attention? RHP 1300 SAT (first try) 4.0 82-84
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

2022NYC ·
Lots of great posts below about SB and HF. https://community.hsbaseballwe...all?postsPerPage=100
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Tampa2020 ·
good thread NYC, thx
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Gov ·
Based on our experience Coaches are assuming you are a good student given the player is attending HF or ShowBall. For a first time score of 1300 on the SAT, equivalent of a 28 ACT, that's a good start, and the Coaches know the student will take the SAT or ACT a few more times. Having said that, a 1300 SAT or 28 ACT along with some serious baseball talent will get you into most Ivy's. Serious baseball talent: Big Bat or Big Arm. If a player is hitting balls hard all over the field along with...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Tampa2020 ·
2020 6' 185 Thanks for the reply, numbers or percentage wise, are these showcases filled with kids like mine? How many would you say? How many lesser talent, how many more talented?
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Gov ·
I'd guess more kids throw slower than 82-84, and more are below 6'. Does your son sit 82-84, or top FB 84 and he sits 80-82? Has your son ever been critiqued at a PBR or PG or some other showcase? What did they comment about your son? I'd find an inexpensive local camp - showcase to get some feedback specific to your son's skill level. (Plenty of kids throw 82-84 and are all over the place, don't start on their HS Varsity teams). Does he pitch for a reputable club team? What does that club...
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Re: HeadFirst or Showball Showcase for July 15-16, 2019

Tampa2020 ·
sits 80-83 has natural cut so he loses a bit of velo on the ones that cut more. Can pitch, very well. On reputable team national ranked, HS all ranked very high, coaches will vouch for his pitchability. Already signed up for Showball, try to decide if HF will be worth the dough.
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