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Re: Standard Camp Invite or Genuine Interest

PitchingFan ·
Technology has changed and twitter DM's are becoming the new emails because people perceive they are personal and not generated but they can be. New software for coaches has DM's as an option along with snapchat and instagram. The newest is a snapchat from practice with a note inviting them to a camp. No one assumes you can mass generate snapchats but you can through the newer recruiting software. We only had success with two camps and both were the same. We received information from the RC...
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Re: Standard Camp Invite or Genuine Interest

Chico Escuela ·
Maybe it's just the luck of the draw, but of ~5 schools where it might make sense for my son to attend a camp, all are scheduled for October or the first weekend in November. (The first weekend in Nov. is when Showball and Headfirst have their Florida sessions, so going to camp then would mean missing the chance to play in front of many other schools.) It's very possible I'm just approaching this the wrong way, or maybe my son just hasn't progressed far enough in the process yet...
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BishopLeftiesDad ·
Each persons path is different. Not everybody Goes to Showball or Headfirst. It all depends on your goals. As always on these things your mileage may very.
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cabbagedad ·
Hey Chico, just checking your logic on this, particularly the bolded... Sounds like your son is with a good travel team that is getting him to events where he is getting notice. That's awesome. But, isn't that one of, if not the primary purpose of travel ball when a player is recruiting age? ...to get seen and recruited? Admittedly, the "camp" world covers the full range of purpose and effectiveness, mostly being as is so often stated here - a fundraiser for school and assistants. But,...
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Re: Standard Camp Invite or Genuine Interest

d-mac ·
PWE, coaches seem to be using some pretty low tactics these days. I had my son respond to some of the camp invites the other day. Most were generic invites but some were listed as "we have identified you as a top prospect". One invite was a lot different than the rest and the next day there was an invite to their Fall game (but also threw in another camp invite) and requested videos, schedule and included his cell. He responded to 16 schools stating that he plays football in the Fall and...
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baseballhs ·
Why would you assume they aren’t interested or it’s a tactic?
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Re: Standard Camp Invite or Genuine Interest

Chico Escuela ·
I think we are on the same page. My son's travel club does well (and fairly) by its players from what I have seen. If it made sense for my son to miss a couple of weekends to go to camps, I don't think his coaches would have a problem with that. But I do think it's reasonable to expect a player who commits to a team to try to attend most of its games, which is a big reason why most camp invites are non-starters for my kid. Teams and players ought to be able to figure out reasonable paths for...
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d-mac ·
The 2nd part I don't think is a tactic. All of them in the top group are, imo.
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Re: Standard Camp Invite or Genuine Interest

PitchingFan ·
What do you consider low tactics? I had to remind myself that recruiting is a two-way street. As a parent and player, I'm doing everything I can to help my son be seen. As a coach, they are doing everything they can to see the right players, plus make money for AC/VC. It takes 100 emails to get the right response for us and it takes 1,000 emails for them to get the right player. Understand there are players that should know they are not D1 or P5 players that dish out the money for every camp...
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d-mac ·
I think anytime a coach says "We've identified you as a top prospect", "your name was recommended to me", or "we recently saw you play at PG Event XYZ" (even though you were on a roster but didn't attend). I think all of those are low tactics. It seems to be happening more and more. Don't make a kid/family feel like they are being recruited so that your VC can make an extra $100. We have this board to sort through and educate ourselves. A lot of people don't and they just go to the camp and...
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Prepster ·
Unless we're talking about pro-rating a camp fee because the camper couldn't attend the entire session, a reduced camp fee for a recruited player is a clear violation of NCAA regulations. Any coach who takes the annual compliance exam as required by the NCAA ought to know better than to offer that.
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d-mac ·
It is a violation, but it happens all the time.
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PitchingFan ·
One was officially run as PBR Camp and the other he went as a PO for one day of 2 day camp so that is probably why both were legal. I will agree with the last statement of we say you play at XYZ when they did not is wrong but saying we see you as a prospect or we would love to see you play is not in my opinion. I understand the frustration but I also realize it is their job and my job is to vet the camps. When I go without vetting it, then I have wasted my money not them taking it. I get...
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Re: Standard Camp Invite or Genuine Interest

Prepster ·
It actually doesn't; not among DI programs, at least. As PitchingFan's clarification illustrates, it happens quite a bit at the many camps run by privately-run organizations; many of which employ college assistants as instructors and have the feel of college camps. ...and, as his other example verifies, they can be and routinely are reduced when campers' schedules prevent them from attending the entire camp.
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Re: Standard Camp Invite or Genuine Interest

Chico Escuela ·
PitchingFan: Not trying to challenge you; just curious-- What do you base the above on re: mass targeting for Twitter DMs and Snapchat/Instagram messages? Maybe you work in a related industry or have an article link you could share? It makes sense that someone would develop the ability to target these media, since there are $$ to be made. I just hadn't heard of DMs as targeted marketing, at least not for users as small as college baseball camps. (I also don't use social media much at all...)
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PitchingFan ·
This is an article that I read recently for using marketing through DM's. I am involved in the Supplemental Insurance Industry along with being a pastor. My curiosity was raised when I started receiving DM's through several social media outlets for church and insurance stuff. I asked my son who is a college softball coach and he confirmed that there are larger programs that are beginning to use it on a regular basis. The technology is still not cheap but the bigger soliciting programs have...
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GaryMe ·
Looks like a lot of people are trying to take advantage of these audiences. Her is one from a simple google search. https://bigbangram.com/blog/ho...sages-practical-tips
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Re: I can't get any attention or interest from coaches. 2021 RHP, 87 MPH FB

Mechanized ·
Getting a good recruiter that is respected by most D1's to advocate for you isn't a bad idea either. A friend of mine son was recruited by a respectable mid major D1 in 2 months by going this route. However, I would be careful as some of these recruiters charge crazy prices. Do your homework first.
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Re: I can't get any attention or interest from coaches. 2021 RHP, 87 MPH FB

Eokerholm ·
Any update since January? Lot has happened since then. Where are you sitting/topping now? Why interest did you garner over the last 8 months? What events have you played in and how did you do? Do you have a baseball profile (with links and verifiable stats and awards)? A great way to get a ton of information to a coach with a 2-3 sentence email. Multi-sport athlete? Dunking videos below got a ton of response and interest from coaches. I blurred out twitter, phone, emails and contact, but...
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