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Best of the 757 Baseball Showcase (open to 757 and 804 athletes)

Bestofthe757 ·
The 2014 Best of the 757 Baseball Showcase ( www.bestofot.com/757/baseball/ ) at Harbor Park (Home of the Norfolk Tides) on August 23rd . The showcase is a great opportunity for high school baseball athletes in the 757 and 804 to gain exposure from VirginiaPreps.com, get a baseline for your measurables and add new skills. We have a great group of staff coaches, including --- Tim Hummel (Cape Henry), Sean Townsend (Great Bridge), Roland Wright (Western Branch), Chris Dotolo (Norfolk Academy),...
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Did the umps handle this correctly?

DT2 ·
Two home plate collisions on the same play has much of our local baseball community (Portland OR) in a buzz today. Both schools are large top level programs and big rivals in every sport. As private schools, they take a lot of talent from nearby HS...
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External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

jimster ·
Check out my articles on the topic. ...
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SultanofSwat ·
Are you advocating forearm 'flop/lay back' backwards with your forearm at 90 degrees? Is that what MLB pitchers do? In video 3, you are advocating using weighted balls to increase your range of motion in external rotation. Why does my ROM need to increase? What is the ideal ROM angle?
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jimster ·
Essentially, yes. And depending on what major leaguers you look it, it is what I tend to see. I would like to promote more of a focus of 90 degrees with the angle of your back, but there are guys that very on this part of mechanics. I have found that when my external rotation is at its max potential, the rest of my mechanics are where I want them to be. I will address the rest of your questions in two ways. ROM can refer to both static and dynamic ROM. A good way to tell the differences is...
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Ohio Dad ·
Just to add two cents, most of the players I work with have too much external rotation and not enough internal rotation. Most players that develop elbow issues have this exact imbalance: Internal Rotation Deficit. Not trying to be negative or argumentative in any way, but just what I have seen over 20 years. Not sure why a player would want to create that type of imbalance of ER to IR. additionally, it is not just the shoulder (glenohumeral joint) that allows these folks to get into these...
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jimster ·
Do you have an example of a pitcher who has that issue? I'm curious to see an example of a pitcher with that issue. Throughout the process of changing my arm action and overall mechanics, I was pretty consistently told that I have good internal rotation, when my external rotation was poor. So that is something I have little to no focus on that part of my mechanics. I also did very little research on internal research in general, so I am not very knowledgeable about the issues associated with...
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Re: External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

SUAWTG ·
Jimster- The DriveLine article you reference in your write up talks about the IR issues. Specifically the Sleeper Stretch. This is all new to me but has become a hot topic in my household since my son has developed scapular issues. He has very limited IR on his throwing arm compared to his non-throwing arm. This is typical of throwers acording to his Physical Therapist. Also he has been doing Jaeger bands 3 times a week for 2 years now and they are great for the rotator cuff, but don't do...
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Re: External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

jimster ·
I remember the part the article a little. Is internal rotation lack of ROM just referencing a static stretch comparison or you're mentioning? Or is their something when those pitchers throw that show an issue too. I have read about pitchers having the issue your son is having, but I have not heard of any issues in the actual pitching motion. Similar to how I talk external rotation. You can see the level of external rotation you achieve. Is there something that you can see when you look at...
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SUAWTG ·
I am not sure of a way to tell in the actual throwing motion. I am just a dad and know very little about this. The PT showed his lack of IR by comparing his IR via the Sleeper Stretch on both sides. His throwing side would not rotate without his shoulder blade moving forward with it. He had done normal stuff (only 14) not heavy lifting. Pushups and light weights etc.. Unfortunately if your scapular muscles are not activating then instead of these exercises making them stronger your body...
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Re: External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

jimster ·
If you're interested in finding exercises to work those muscles you can search http://exrx.net/ . A great resource for anything related to working out. And free too. That's the best part. Also check out the body map here http://exrx.net/Lists/WtMale.html You click on the areas of the body that you want to find workouts for and it will show you stuff that you can do. If you are having him do push-ups, then you can add other body weight exercises to work the upper body as well. Pull ups and...
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Re: External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

Bulldog 19 ·
Anybody want to take a guess on how many baseball players I've stretched into external rotation of the shoulder? Volleyball hitters? That's right--- Exactly ZERO. They already have excessive ER and by stretching it, all I would do is stress the already stressed joint..
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jimster ·
Not everyone has excessive or complete external rotation nor am I promoting static stretching of it. Or any type of stretching. My article talks improving arm action so external rotatiom(that naturally occurs)can happen. I don't really understand the purpose of your post and it seems kind of combative. If you have seething to add to the conversation, please do. But please add comments that relate to the topic on hand. Thanks!
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Re: Did the umps handle this correctly?

Batty67 ·
Mutual forfeit seems to be the right call. Not clear to me that the catcher or runner intended on a huge collision. Might be the case, but I could not tell based on quality of video. But the trail runner was acting in a malicious manner for sure.
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Swampboy ·
From the camera angle shown, the catcher initiates contact with intentional excessive force above the first runner's waist. I have a dead ball right there because of malicious contact on the catcher. Malicious contact always is an immediate dead ball. Score the first run. Eject the catcher. Place the batter-runner where appropriate.
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Matt13 ·
Originally Posted by Swampboy: From the camera angle shown, the catcher initiates contact with intentional excessive force above the first runner's waist. I have a dead ball right there because of malicious contact on the catcher. Malicious contact always is an immediate dead ball. Score the first run. Eject the catcher. Place the batter-runner where appropriate. I don't. I think he didn't know where the runner was and lunged, creating extremely violent, albeit unintentional, contact.
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Bulldog 19 ·
Originally Posted by Swampboy: From the camera angle shown, the catcher initiates contact with intentional excessive force above the first runner's waist. I have a dead ball right there because of malicious contact on the catcher. Malicious contact always is an immediate dead ball. Score the first run. Eject the catcher. Place the batter-runner where appropriate. What's interesting is the catcher is the only player on the defense NOT ejected and suspended. The offensive team also had the...
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Swampboy ·
Difference of opinion, Matt. I see a catcher with excellent awareness and positioning. He put his heels on the 1B line before catching the ball so he wouldn't have to spin after the catch and so he could track runner's progress with peripheral vision. Once he caught the ball, his simplest option was to reach out and make the tag. His next simplest option was to drop to his knees and put his mitt on the front edge of the plate. Instead, he tucked the glove into his gut like a fullback,...
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Re: Did the umps handle this correctly?

TX-Ump74 ·
Originally Posted by Swampboy: Difference of opinion, Matt. I see a catcher with excellent awareness and positioning. He put his heels on the 1B line before catching the ball so he wouldn't have to spin after the catch and so he could track runner's progress with peripheral vision. Once he caught the ball, his simplest option was to reach out and make the tag. His next simplest option was to drop to his knees and put his mitt on the front edge of the plate. Instead, he tucked the glove into...
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Back foot slider ·
Certainly open to interpretation, but looks like runner is starting his slide, but catcher has set up in a very good position to drop his knee and put the tag on, but instead drops the hammer, and with a little more force than I'm comfortable with. Lucky runner was not hurt with the very high thumping the catcher initiated.
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JCG ·
I thought it was just a good tough baseball play. Runner didn't think there was a play, so he didn't initially slide, though he tried to eventually. Catcher did drop his shoulder a bit but I give him the benefit of the doubt because he has to brace for a collision. The batter-runner is the kid who really escalated things, and I believe he deserves a much harsher punishment than anybody else for his totally unprovoked hit on the 3rd baseman. 3rd baseman was acting stupidly as his head totally...
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Matt13 ·
Originally Posted by JCG: I thought it was just a good tough baseball play. Runner didn't think there was a play, so he didn't initially slide, though he tried to eventually. Catcher did drop his shoulder a bit but I give him the benefit of the doubt because he has to brace for a collision. The batter-runner is the kid who really escalated things, and I believe he deserves a much harsher punishment than anybody else for his totally unprovoked hit on the 3rd baseman. 3rd baseman was acting...
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JCG ·
Originally Posted by Matt13: Originally Posted by JCG: I thought it was just a good tough baseball play. Runner didn't think there was a play, so he didn't initially slide, though he tried to eventually. Catcher did drop his shoulder a bit but I give him the benefit of the doubt because he has to brace for a collision. The batter-runner is the kid who really escalated things, and I believe he deserves a much harsher punishment than anybody else for his totally unprovoked hit on the 3rd...
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Matt13 ·
Originally Posted by JCG: Originally Posted by Matt13: Originally Posted by JCG: I thought it was just a good tough baseball play. Runner didn't think there was a play, so he didn't initially slide, though he tried to eventually. Catcher did drop his shoulder a bit but I give him the benefit of the doubt because he has to brace for a collision. The batter-runner is the kid who really escalated things, and I believe he deserves a much harsher punishment than anybody else for his totally...
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Coach_Sampson ·
Catcher... Gone, MC. Trail runner... Gone, MC. By rule anyone who leaves the bench area is gone.
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Re: Did the umps handle this correctly?

Rob T ·
Originally Posted by Matt13: He charged an opposing player. He's the instigator here. Wait - what? How does the fact that he is jawing at the original runner justify him getting INTENTIONALLY run into by the trailing runner. That runner has ZERO justification for what he did. Not only did he leave the baseline to do it - he did it to a guy who had his back turned. That move went beyond any baseball play and was completely gutless and classless. In Florida he would likely get the next 6 weeks...
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Matt13 ·
Originally Posted by Rob T: Originally Posted by Matt13: He charged an opposing player. He's the instigator here. Wait - what? How does the fact that he is jawing at the original runner justify him getting INTENTIONALLY run into by the trailing runner. That runner has ZERO justification for what he did. Not only did he leave the baseline to do it - he did it to a guy who had his back turned. That move went beyond any baseball play and was completely gutless and classless. In Florida he would...
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Rob T ·
Originally Posted by Matt13: JFC. Where did I say that? Originally Posted by Matt13: F5 caused the whole situation by playing the ass. The hit on him was not unprovoked; he was starting a fight with R2 . Of what I can see, F1 is the only one that I feel should definitively get a multiple-game suspension (he's the only one I can see actually fighting. F5 was turning away when the trailing runner decided to cheap shot him. He wasn't fighting anyone - he was yelling. There was an umpire between...
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schwammi ·
skp the video...read the article and you read that "R2 was attempting to score on the play" and at that time F5 is standing in the baseline. I can't tell if the ball was dead. The article also leads you to believe this might have been the 2nd collision at the plate. If so, awareness was already heightened. In my opinion, catcher initiated contact as runner was sliding. Eject catcher. F5 escalated. Eject F5. R2 - well...eject him too because maybe he was continuing the play, but he certainly...
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stros184 ·
Watched video over and over, pausing it and looking at head of catcher and R1. Catcher caught the ball protected the ball turned to drop to his knee, the he realized runner not slider, he then came up towards runner. R1 never attempted to slide or avoid contact. I see this as R1, and R2 and their coach. No one should be ejected. Give coaches stern warnings, let both teams calm down, resume play. Any more incidents game cancelled.
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coach2709 ·
Originally Posted by schwammi: skp the video...read the article and you read that "R2 was attempting to score on the play" and at that time F5 is standing in the baseline. I can't tell if the ball was dead. The article also leads you to believe this might have been the 2nd collision at the plate. If so, awareness was already heightened. In my opinion, catcher initiated contact as runner was sliding. Eject catcher. F5 escalated. Eject F5. R2 - well...eject him too because maybe he was...
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trojan-skipper ·
Why do guys think that if there is any contact at all at home plate that war should be declared and bombs should start flying???
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piaa_ump ·
Originally Posted by trojan-skipper: Why do guys think that if there is any contact at all at home plate that war should be declared and bombs should start flying??? exactly...there will always be "legal contact in baseball"......there are time when the ball, the runner and the fielder will have to occupy the same space.....
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Matt13 ·
Originally Posted by Rob T: Originally Posted by Matt13: JFC. Where did I say that? Originally Posted by Matt13: F5 caused the whole situation by playing the ass. The hit on him was not unprovoked; he was starting a fight with R2 . Of what I can see, F1 is the only one that I feel should definitively get a multiple-game suspension (he's the only one I can see actually fighting. F5 was turning away when the trailing runner decided to cheap shot him. He wasn't fighting anyone - he was yelling.
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