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Re: PG 17U WWBA /National Academic /Sunshine Northeast /Atlantic Coast Top Prospect
Thanks again for all the suggestions. I am convinced on the need for going to a PG showcase. PGSTAFF: appreciate all the nuances to stocking up player projections that come into play. Although challenging, over the course of many years, these intangibles that we refer to (body type, arm action, command, secondary pitch readiness, poise, ability to get batters out, etc) have coalesced with metrics (pitch velocity, spin rate, etc). Together they are better aids to project what a 16 year old...
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Re: PG 17U WWBA /National Academic /Sunshine Northeast /Atlantic Coast Top Prospect
Phanatic, I suggest you contact me regarding your son. Don't worry I don't try to sell anything. I just think certain kids get the most out of certain situations or events and I would like to know more about your son. He does sound interesting based on your initial post. You can send me a private message as I doubt you want to discuss your son out here in the open.
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Re: 2019 prospect trying to finalize summer schedule
A few thoughts that don't necessarily directly answer your questions... Does he know what he wants to major in or what he wants to do for a living (besides maybe play baseball)? Many come here without a wide enough net. As an academic 2019 considering D1 states thru D3's in a large geographic area, I would propose that his net is quite wide and he will have to put sufficient time into research and searching within as to what options will be realistic for him (narrow that net a bit). It won't...
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Re: 2019 prospect trying to finalize summer schedule
At this point a good portion of D1 commitments are filled. There is space available. But be careful not to be the non scholarship insurance policy for a position. Keep in mind a lot of faster with power shortstops will be moved to third in college. At this point I wouldn’t throw spaghetti off the wall to see what sticks. I would have a very targeted strategy. Where do I want to play? Does my high school or travel coach know that college’s coach so he can promote me before I’m seen. You...
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Re: 2019 prospect trying to finalize summer schedule
Jfnnyc is your son invited to the Yankees Area Code tryout? Bob founder of Area Code Baseball 1987 and Goodwill Series 1983
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Re: 2019 prospect trying to finalize summer schedule
Go to the events where the schools on your son’s vetted list will be. And those events should be ones where he will be seen by those schools. Vetted academically and athletically. At a minimum, trusted third parties (e.g., scouts, guidance counselors, et. al.) have said your son could be admitted and could play baseball there. Does he have a vetted list that he’s working now? If not, he should ASAP. For the vast majority of players, college baseball recruiting is not a crap shoot where a...
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Re: 2019 prospect trying to finalize summer schedule
My wife complained that I made the initial post way too long! Sorry for that. For sake of brevity, hoping to find out two questions: 1) Do D1 coaches heavily scout PG national 18U Memorial Day tournaments? 2) Is PG 17U WWBA tournament in GA enough for a kid that is interested in playing DI? What's the next most important 17U national summer tournament as measured by D1 coaches in attendance? Bob- thanks for the question. Yes, he already has an Area Code invite lined up from a Yankees scout.
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Re: 2019 prospect trying to finalize summer schedule
Out of state cost may not matter to you. But the percentage that becomes an athletic scholarship has to fit into the coach’s budget. This goes back to the stud value. But some state universities need to recruit out of state due to the limited talent base in their state.
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Re: 2019 prospect trying to finalize summer schedule
If he participates in the AC tryout, there will be over 80 major college coaches and 40 pro scouts. Your cost is zero and an opportunity to play in Los Angeles and Fenway Park. All the East Coast scouts are great talent evaluators. We travel to Australia as the Yankees. Bob
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Re: 2019 prospect trying to finalize summer schedule
Regarding the Memorial Day tournament you mentioned, I don't know anyone that's gone to that (from CA). At least in CA, HS teams are just finishing up and players are taking a breather and getting ready for JOs. Also, colleges are still playing so not sure how they'd be on the recruiting trail. I don't think it would hurt to miss this, IMO. Regarding the 17U WWBA, this is a great tournament no doubt. But, that's a lot of eggs to put in one basket. What if the coaches you are interested in...
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Re: 2019 prospect trying to finalize summer schedule
I should add - regarding the 17U WWBA, you'll only play a couple games at Lake Point where the majority of coaches hang out. Most of the games will be on fields up to an hour away and very few college coaches make the trip in my experience.
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Re: 2019 prospect trying to finalize summer schedule
Concur with Smitty here. Depending on which travel team he's able to get on, they may have preferred access to Lake Point (turf fields where the majority of coaches are). I believe the preferred access comes from teams having played in the WWBA tournament for a number of years.
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Re: 2019 prospect trying to finalize summer schedule
We only got one game at Lake Pointe last year and due to rain delays, it didn't start until almost midnight. I only saw one coach there at that point. I wouldn't put it all in that. Area Code should be a good opportunity.
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Re: 2019 prospect trying to finalize summer schedule
Agree with Smitty. Too many teams and not enough games played at LakePoint for each team to ensure he'll get seen in that one tournament. Definitely a tournament you should ideally play in, but it's one of several you'd want to attend. My 16u is lucky because we live in Atlanta, and his team will play in every 16u & 17u event at Lakepoint this coming summer. And we're still not counting on that to carry the day. Still need to target specific schools, make contact, then attend their camp...
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Re: 2019 prospect trying to finalize summer schedule
Patriot League, GTown type D1's will still be very active next summer - get the ACT score up. How many times has he taken it? A few extra points will expand his options.
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Re: 2019 prospect trying to finalize summer schedule
Thanks everyone. What other heavily scouted national travel tournaments should we consider? Maybe not a PG one? Have coaches firmed up their summer recruiting schedules this early and are they willing to give that information to interested prospects, or perhaps better, prospects in whom they have an interest? ACT- He's taken it once and was sick with the flu. Tutor-administered practice tests consistently showing ~27, but I've been trying to keep our expectations low, realizing this all...
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Re: 2019 prospect trying to finalize summer schedule
Select Fest -NJ Top 100 Mid Atlantic - PA There are well scouted regional showcases in relative close proximity. They’re elite enough to require scout recommendations. Someone else will have to chip in on specifics. It’s been nine years.
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Re: 2019 prospect trying to finalize summer schedule
I would not leave your son getting seen at a tourney up to chance. You need to put together a comprehensive recruiting plan for your son. Below is a cut and paste from a post I put up a few weeks ago. It was geared toward a little different conversation, in which the player is just starting on their journey. You are a little ways into your sons, but the basic principles still apply. Here is a high level approach. If you have any specific questions, post your question as a separate topic, you...
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
Try to enjoy it. 2016 is off at school. Wish I could go to that tournament with my son one last time.
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
Thank you - we are looking forward to it! Have heard and read about PG for a while now, and am glad our son can participate this year. Best to your son in college!
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
Sometimes (most times) there is only one game a day. Try to take advantage of seeing the area, with or without your player. There is a lot to see and do in Atlanta/Kennesaw area. One team hotel had a shuttle to the surrounding area. Toward the end of the week the parents sent the kids off bowling for a few hours. If you don't know about the Georgia red clay, buy some Iron Out. We soaked baseball pants in the bathtub. There used to be a thread about good places to eat near East Cobb. Maybe...
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
Great ideas. thanks! We have been to Atlanta before for cousin/friends/business visits, and live in nearby NC so we are familiar with North Carolina red clay. Shout usually works with oxi-clean powder, but we may try Iron Out - it sounds intriguing! We have one game per day except one day where we have 2 games. So will be nice to have some free time. Thanks for the restaurant recommendations, I will start a list with your suggestions. We are foodies and love finding fun eats in the areas we...
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
No metal cleats allowed at LakePoint. Pitchers mound is also turf. Some prefer molded cleats and some prefer regular turf shoes. I hope you have good weather and a great trip.
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
Thank you - son is aware of that and has regular turf shoes he likes. Question - does PG evaluate each pitcher in tournament games or only in showcase events? (may need to start a new thread or research older ones). Thanks again.
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
Also realize that not all games are at Lakepoint, so make sure he also has his regular cleats. I know PG records every pitch, and each pitchers fastest velocity. They do not grade them ,but I believe all of this goes into their master database for rankings My son will also be playing in the WWBA. We are fortunate that Lakepoint is 30 miles from the house.
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@dadofa17 - yes, we have 3 games at Lakepoint, 3 at HS and one at a college. He is bringing both. Do you know if that pitch info will go into his profile and be available to us? Good luck to your son later this week - it's almost here!
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
If your son is a pitcher and will pitch at Lakepoint, I highly recommend he gets a pair of molded cleats. My son pitched there the first year it opened and his turf shoes did not keep him from sliding around. He had molded cleats last year and didn't slip or slide at all. I also recommend buying the molded cleats before arriving as most sporting goods stores around Lakepoint were pretty much sold out of molded cleats.
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
If he pitches at any PG tournament they'll have someone with guns behind home plate recording his velo for his different types of pitches. A few weeks later he'll have those numbers added to his profile (at least it was a few weeks later when my 2016 pitched in GA). If/when he attends a showcase they'll show the velo data right away and then a few weeks later he'll have a write up posted and a PG ranking (like 7.5, 8, 8.5, etc). I'm assuming there is more behind the scenes that a college...
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
@goin_yard - I will look into getting molded cleats or seeing what he & dad think. he wears size 15 or 16 so that may be a challenge so close to the start date. his turf shoes are comfortable and support but I don't like the sound of the possibility of slipping around. Thanks for the suggestion. @mkbaseballdad - thanks for the info, was not sure how that worked with velo recording. appreciate it.
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
Check out largefeet.com. My son wears a size 15 and this store is great. It is in downtown Atlanta and they carry athletic shoes size 14 and up. Shaq gets his size 22s there. my son loves having a place where he can try shoes on. �� I am not sure if they have molded cleats in stock. But if you have a free day, it will be worth the drive. (It is not an impressive store front and you have to walk up to the third floor for the athletic shoes. But they have a great selection.
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
Son is there now at 14U WWBA. I couldn't go. All games are on Gamechanger. Games at Lakepoint are on Trackman. Every pitch gets velocity, spin rate, axis, horizontal and vertical movement plus more. Every batted ball gets exit velocity, spin, distance and about another 8 data points. Pretty cool. Oh yeah, it also keeps score. https://connect.baseball.track...oard?Date=2016-06-28
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
@GO44DAD Thank you! Will check out Trackman. We use Game Changer for our team, but sounds like all games are on that anyway. Will be cool to see the velocity data.
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
@dadofa17 - thanks for the largefeet link - we will definitely check that store out. Son wears 15 or 16 depending on brand. and yes, trying on shoes will be a bonus. awesome advice!
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
My son will be there as well. He's from Europe, but joint the ECNE Expos for the summer. He's a SS and RHP. I think this tournament will be a great experience. Good luck to your son.
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
How fun for him! Good luck to him!
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
My son flew out today from Chicago with his team. He is so excited. Thanks for the all of the info and heads up about the molded cleats, although he's usually been ok with the turf shoes.
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@WSOXFANATIC Good luck to your son! We ended up ordering cleats from newbalance outlet.com and they are being shipped to our hotel. Son was not sure the turf shoes would handle well on the turf mound, so he will have choices in footwear now. We are excited to be here! First game tomorrow @8:15 am so we will have an early wake up call! Best to your son and his team!
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
My son is there now. First game @ 2pm. I'll be there this evening. He's looking forward to this week of baseball. I'm looking forward to watching, eating some BBQ and another trip to Henry's.
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
Surprised your team above has THREE games at PG Lakepoint; our team has only one this year, many seem to have 2, but 3 is awesome. It is tough for the pitchers who pitch elsewhere as they don't get all the data (last year my son pitched off site and they only had the radar on him for one inning, and he is stuck with that number in his PG profile despite going unofficially 3 mph higher on a dad's radar a few innings later). That's my only whine as it is an awesome tournament. I'm not going...
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@twoboys - Best of luck to your son! Our first game was at Lakepoint today and our team won! Was a great way to start the week. I understand we our team is very fortunate to have three games at LP. The facility exceeded our expectations - loved the instant data on scoreboard, shaded seats and the great level of play all around. There are quite a few teams on buses, and traveling as a group. Ours is with each family, and am glad as this is our first experience with PG and @ LP and possibly...
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
His team doesn't get to play at Lakepoint, only the East Cobb facility. He is pitching tomorrow. So am I hearing not a lot of exposure at the outer facilities?
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In our case last year we had college coaches at every game. Lakepoint would have consistently more but we had several no matter where we were. Son's team won pool. Our playoff game was the first one played at Lakepoint and only game going on in the entire complex. Kid pitching was going to UGA. Had to be 100+coaches and scouts watching our one game. Our lead off guy took kid deep over LCF on second pitch. It was a wild scene. Good luck to all this week.
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My mistake. They play 1 game at Lakepoint. He will be pitching tomorrow at East Cobb. Oh well, he will need to make the best of it for whomever is watching. Would sure be nice to have Trackman to watch his game since I'm unable to go. I will be watching on Game Changer instead.
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That had to been so great to see!! I guess I can hope for the playoffs. Thanks for the information Backstop dad..
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
East Cobb will have plenty of colleges watching. We played at a non-lake Point field at 9:00 this morning. There were plenty of colleges watching. Now, a lot of these recruiters know who they want to see, so depending on who is on the two teams, you could get more or less exposure.
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Re: Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
The only game our team had a Lakepoint last year was when they made it to the championship round. Almost every game was an hour ride from the hotel through Atlanta traffic. At least we didn't have to pay for parking. ;o)
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He told me there was a decent number of coaches on hand for his game at East Cobb. Was very impressed with the facility, adding it was better than many college fields he's played at! Got to pitch 3 1/3, w/4K, no walks. Hopeful to get a few more innings next week. His team is 2-0 so having a lot of fun thus far.
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College commitment after playing WWBA
I know the NCAA has pushed recruitment dates until Jan of 2021. My 2021 who is not committed to any college (talking to a couple but have not seen him play) will be playing in WWBA this Oct. My question is has anyone had luck committing to a college after playing WWBA and how long before they contacted you? Thank you.
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Jayden, have your son email all the coaches he is in contact with and tell them he will be there at the WWBA event. Then follow up again when you have the game times and fields. You have nothing to loose and everything to gain at this point. Add in some fresh D3s if you wish, with the baseball "resume". Good luck!
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Re: College commitment after playing WWBA
Probably the only roster spots available at this point for a ‘21 are at D3s. This isn’t what WWBA events are typically for. A player would be better off at an academic event or event local to the area he’s looking to be recruited.