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The feedback you received on your pitching is a very very good sign. At 6'0" 150 they will look at you as having a "projectable body". Are you done growing or will you likely get taller still? Maybe you will get an 8. I hope when you find out you'll let us know as I'm genuinely interested in how they grade you. No matter what grade you get, just keep working and take care of that arm. You are just beginning the Fall of your Sophomore year, plenty of time for further development ahead.
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I am still growing, yes. I think I'm projected for 6'1" or 6'2", I can't really recall. I'm more like 6'0" and 1/4 as of now but I'm still growing bit by bit. Thank you so much, I'll keep you posted.
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I have a 2020, the advice he is receiving is to play to his strengths in order to get to the next level. You are in 10th grade, do you truly see yourself as a 2 way player or are you a pitcher? 4 innings with 6 strikeouts, and having command of 3 pitches? It sounds like you are pitcher to me. What made you go in as a two way player?
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The answer I would give is that I'm still learning. Until last weekend I hadn't seen such a talented group of hitters and fielders compared to me, and as you say, it does look silly that I'd even go in as a 2-way player. I 100% agree with you. I now view this event as a reality check, and it does make sense that I should probably stick to pitching entirely. Thank you for your response and kind words!
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I didn't mean to imply you looked silly, sorry if I made you feel that way. I have a son who swears he is an outfielder that can pitch. Every coach that has seen him pitch seems to forget that outfield bit and proclaim him a pitcher. We are all asking him to really examine what will get him to the next level. He's a good outfielder and hitter but, like you, he's an outstanding pitcher. That's what is going to get him up the ladder he wants to climb, so he needs to focus on that. Sounds like...
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Oh no, I didn't mean that you made feel silly at all. I legitimately feel that I made a silly move myself going in as a 2-way player now seeing all the talent I would have to beat and I was not trying to imply that you meant just that. If anything, your words were encouragement to go out there as a confident pitcher haha, so thank you for that! Good luck to your son as well.
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Hi Dinger, Sounds like you had a nice showing! I wouldn't focus too much on the rating or awards at this stage. But I really like the analysis as it gives you some sound feedback. My oldest did a PG event and was named a Top Prospect and a top 100 at his position nationally. It made him and us feel good and it was nice to share with college coaches nationwide. My youngest never did a PG event. Both my boys play in college. What I love about PG is the experienced, detailed feedback. They see...
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I'm really looking into going Ivy, any other high academic D1, or high academic D3. My grades are exceptional and I do a good amount of volunteering as well. I will be playing on a showcase team this fall, and one of the events they go to is at Brown University. I believe the exposure I will get will continue and improve as I get older. I also think I'm doing mostly all I can to put myself in the right position to achieve these goals. Thank you very much for your thoughts!
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Thank you to everyone who read and/or gave thought to this topic. I was just announced to the Mid Atlantic Underclass Top Prospect List!!!
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Congrats Dingerswag. I've enjoyed reading this thread and wish you the best of luck moving forward. Keep us updated.
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Please don't change your screen name! Here is same advice I have given other's that have posted in a similar spot. Work hard to get as athletic as you can and play hard! Sounds silly when I write it, but college coaches look for athlete's. An SEC coach told me he likes his pitchers to run a 7.0 or better 60. He said 10 of his 16 pitchers can do that. Good luck and thanks for posting. Keep us updated.
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Congrats on making the top prospect list. Keep up the good work in the classroom. Some unsolicited advice: If you're gonna pitch, there is no substitute for a good pitching coach. And if you're serious about college ball it's a must have. A great pitching coach will help you w/ mechanics, Core training , Exercises and most importantly arm care . As you grow and your velocity increases , your velocity numbers are going to determine what level of college ball you play at . For NCAA recruiting...
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Congrats on your good showing and getting awarded Top Prospect!! My son was named a Top Prospect at his PG showcase. He is a primary pitcher....but did so well in OF and hitting...that put him over the top at that showcase. Funny...because he also gets pigeon-holed as a pitcher only. If your velocity increases a lot...go to another PG showcase right before the summer after your junior year if you have not committed anywhere. If your velocity has not increased, don't waste the money. We...
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I have to agree with Branson, don't worry about PG's number or the top prospect list. Here is why: 1) You received contact from colleges following your PG Showcase. You got this attention because coaches were in attendance and actually saw you. That is the value of Perfect Game. They get college coaches to the park because they attract players who want to play at the next level (and who can play - but many show up who cannot). 2) Nobody ever got offered a scholarship, or got drafted, based...
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Thank you everyone!! Learning more and more every minute.
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Some good points with the exception of #2. While it might take more than a grade, ranking or report in most every case... The truth is that "many" colleges subscribe to crosschecker where they do sort players by grade. They also pay very close attention to the rankings. Every player that has ever appeared in a good spot in the rankings or received a high grade knows how much interest it creates. Both with the colleges and the MLB scouts. We have had players recruited, even by highest level...
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The other thing a great PG grade can get you, which I haven't seen mentioned in this thread I believe, is invites to play for some of the very best Travel Teams such as the Houston Banditos or Evoshield Canes in the top tournaments. That is another avenue for the top flight players to get in front of not just scouts but the right scouts. Getting a "10" grade from PG can get you on almost any travel team without even needing to tryout. Even a "9" can open a ton of doors that were previously ...
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I will personally attest to this. Some years back, my son attended his first PG showcase the end of August between his Freshman and Sophomore year. Did well, received Top Prospect List and Top Prospect Team and got graded a 9. Within a week, he had very respected travel teams hitting his e-mail box and phone to play with them. He ended up going to Ft. Myers with one of them that October and Atlanta the next July. Count me as a believer.
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Just wondering how many people on this board would share if their player was offered a scholarship or drafted without ever meeting the coach or having him see your son play? Seems like something that is easy to say if you don't drop names, but nobody can confirm that. Anyone care to share if their kid was drafted or offered a scholarship sight unseen just based on PG or another coach's recommendation? Would also love to know which MLB team has that much faith to put all of their eggs in the...
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I don't think it is necessary to name names without their consent. I would hope reputation alone would be enough. There is nothing you will ever find that I have ever posted that is untrue. I would never take a chance on that. But just to prove a point, seeing you have indirectly accused me of stretching the truth... Roy Clark, at that time with the Washington Nationals, was the scouting exec that called. Usually these calls before the draft are more about what we might know about a certain...
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I appreciate your willingness to name names, but you are saying these guys never laid eyes on these players before a draft of offering a scholarship? I just find that implausible that is the case. This is a kid that just a quick look at your website shows that he was on your national radar from June of 2011 at your junior nationals with a grade of ten. He was in two national games and two junior national showcases. What you are trying to get me to believe is that the Washington Nationals...
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So, out of SEC Hopefuls 5 posts on this board in her 3 1/2 months here, 4 are attacking Perfect Game. All of the top college coaches I have spoken to along my sons recruitment recommend PG. Not all are fans of all of their events, but overall, they highly respect their scouting assessments, showcases, tournaments and website layout. I think I'll take their recommendation, thanks SECH.
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and I think you are quite the defender of Perfect Game. Are you on the payroll? You sure seem to be willing to look past the revisionist history of that player that PG Staff seems to think was on nobody's radar before he got drafted just based on his recommendation because the National's scouting department was inept. That's essentially what he just called the entire Washington National's scouting department in 2011/2012. That slips right through.
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I thought I opened up HSBBWEB, but I must have opened up twitter instead. I'm a PG supporter, if there is a payroll for us, can someone kindly send me the link?
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Nice, so none of you question the claims of Perfect Game? I still haven't heard anyone come on here and say their kid got a scholarship on their PG score alone? Why is the CEO of Perfect Game even on a chat room forum? Does he own this website? It sure would benefit him to have a forum like this to sway public opinion and perception of the value of Perfect Game in the recruiting of baseball players. I question that this is truly an open forum. I think we are all being duped. I bet a glass of...
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I know of an 8th Grader who received an SEC verbal commit just based on his showing at a PBR indoor Showcase (that and his travel team organization head speaking highly of him). Understand that a verbal commit is a huge accomplishment but means little until the NLI is signed. SEC HOPEFUL, this place is a tremendous resource with a ton of useful info. PG STAFF has been posting here for over a decade. There would be no reason for him to damage his reputation by posting lies or half truths. It...
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SEC HOPEFUL, You wanted names, against my better judgment I gave you names. I gave you the truth, sorry I forgot that Washington had a pick in the second round. If you look at the last report (below) we did on Drew Ward you will see he was listed as a 2014 grad. Not until very late did he reclassify for the 2014 draft and most scouts just didn't bear down on him as much as the actual draft class. The reason they called was because they knew we knew a lot about him. The phone call went...
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SEC Hopeful, You don't sound like any mom I have ever run across. Are you being truthful? A few years ago we had someone similar attacking us on here. The person that does own this site was able to track that person. He was an employee of a competitor. He had an agenda and after reading your past posts, it is very obvious that you do to.
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No, I don't. Sounds like you have followed the board for a long time.
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I'd like to remind everyone that this post was by a 15 year old who is just starting out and excited by the PG event he attended. Can we all dial it back a bit?
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I am pretty sure that the 10 my son received from his first PG showcase got him a 90% scholarship because after that he was seen by Sully at Jupiter his junior fall and heavily pursued until he said " yes to the offer". One thing about a PG showcase grade, it is not about that particular performance, but future potential. I don't want to get into another revived discussion going on in another topic, but anyone can improve their grade. I think it can become a great motivator if the player is...
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High academic programs probably value 2 way players, not sure. My opinion is keep doing what you are doing until someone tells you otherwise. You will eventually settle in on your strength by Coach inquiries. Keep working on being the best player you can, on and off of the field.
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I have been here for a couple of years and I have gone back and read many many old posts (probably to the detriment of my job!) and I will have to say that PGSTAFF has always been honest, forthcoming, and very kind in response to peoples questions on this site. I always stop to read his replys because I know he knows what he is talking about. Furthermore, without PG tournaments to play in, my son would not even be on anyones radar. I will even go so far as to say that no where else in...
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My son's first PG grade was about what I expected him to get, honestly, an "8". I couldn't say that score has opened any doors for him, because I have no way of telling. Nobody came knocking on our door saying "we saw you got an 8 and want to offer you a scholarship." He made the top prospect list, and again I don't know if that got him on anyone's list because I have no way of knowing. We get so much email from schools, it's hard to say what is legit and what isn't. I did have a dream last...
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Getting an offer based on score alone is rare. PG would agree with that. However, I personally know a TON of college coaches who rely on PG's evaluations. Why? Because they have a track record of being right more than they are wrong. Coaches and scouts want data from people they trust. As for Jerry Ford, he has been a part of this forum for years but he does not own the site. This place is about baseball talk and helping young players, not pushing an agenda. With that being said, I'll raise...
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One thing I will say... My son is a 2018 grad (went to PG National, etc). PG just redid the 2018 class rankings. As someone who has seen most of the top players at this age group (I'm also a coach), PG's national and state rankings are very nearly dead on with where I would have ranked them--with only a handful of exceptions. And I could very nearly guess most players ratings from showcases based on how they performed (I had my own kid at a 9.5 after PG National and that's what he got). I'm...
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CaCOGirl, the 15 y.o. poster came on, handled himself quite well, was complimented and given great information, then showed appreciation - all very good. It was another new poster who came on and criticized and questioned a few of our long time contributors, then criticized others and continued, even though PGStaff initially addressed the questioning politely, thoughtfully and thoroughly. "Why is the CEO of Perfect Game even on a chat room forum? Does he own this website? It sure would...
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I wish I were much smarter. I am a baseball nut, not a businessman. Yes, I own a baseball business that some would call successful, but that business is run by good business people. But being a baseball business the baseball part of our business needs baseball people. That is what I am. My involvement here has absolutely nothing to do with business. It is because this is IMO the very best site in all of baseball. The people here, most of them, know what they are talking about. They know...
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As a moderator, I have gone back and read your posts. It seems you are obsessed with attacking PGStaff on this site. This isn't a flaming site and so, if that is your agenda, you'll find you stay here short. Not only has PGStaff not used this site to promote himself but also, he has been a stalwart on this site for membership. He has helped many including myself when he and I and others came under attack a few years ago. He has been there for the owner of this site when the site went through...
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Was this tournament the WWBA? The reason I ask is that this is a lot different from our experience in playing PG events. I'm not here to bash on PG, but I am curious as to how our team's experience has been so different from everyone else's on this forum. PGStaff I sent you a PM about a different topic. Would you mind taking a look at it and responding if possible?
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My comment was made in the hope the adults could dial it back some. In a perfect (no pun intended) world we would all just ignore trolls or perhaps mock the post in jest. There will be haters about everything on the planet, no one will change their mind about PG and/or Mr. Ford, but it doesn't change all the good PG and Mr. Ford have done. By acknowledging and defending we give the troll power to disrupt the thread and board. The kid was excited, he did well, he got well deserved kudos, I...
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Texas 2 Sons, JMO but have you asked that question to your sons coach?
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I agree with you Cabbagedad, I don't blame Jerry for being upset. No one else was nasty, and FWIW, the OP handled his inquiry with intelligence and maturity. Great job!!!!
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I'm not sure what asking our coach would have to do with it. Maybe you can elaborate on what you mean by that. I asked the question I did because we have not played in the WWBA and this seems to be the only PG tourney that has those kind of results from what I've read on here.
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Oh OK, gotcha. I don't think it's the only tourney where you might see results. WWBA in Atlanta and Jupiter probably the premier events, more coaches and scouts for sure.
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Texas 2 sons, Yes it was at 16U WWBA. But the key, in my opinion, is to play on the best team possible so that scouts have something to see......even if it's not your son. As I said in my previous post, they were not there to see my son, but he benefited greatly as a result of pitching that day.