I will probably be rooting for Swarthmore. If Wooster goes very far, they will be insufferable in the NCAC. Who am I kidding they are already Insufferable.
For the first time in a very long time, no dog that I know of, so I'm with you with the underdog.
BishopLeftiesDad posted:I will probably be rooting for Swarthmore. If Wooster goes very far, they will be insufferable in the NCAC. Who am I kidding they are already Insufferable.
This is a great post and worthy of repeating! The MAC Freedom teams feel the same about Misericordia!! Swarthmore has plenty yappers on that squad as well...however there are very few innocents in the dugouts of college baseball teams.
College baseball is about 9 on the field and 26 in the dugouts, doin their thing. As long as it is in good sportsmanship manner, that is the way it is played. That is one of the reasons the game is more enjoyable than MLB. No taunting just rowdiness and occasional jabs. Willamette, I must say has one of the loudest dugouts in the NWC. I think the team feeds off that energy. They have rituals, don Glamm glasses after a home run, idiotic/stupid sayings but they just are trying to come up with some type of noise during the game. Some people dont like Monmouth basketball's bench shenanigans, I think it is great.
Yes agree with above, we found Swat to be absolutely insufferable. Noise and fun and even chirping is all in good fun but they went way beyond that. Not very sportsmanlike. They are on a powerful run however so it seems to be working. Lets see if their pitching can stand up in Appleton, as they can hit.
2018 is headed to Misericordia in the fall to play ball...this is their first trip, so we are hopeful it will be a successful one. Watched every regional game on our phones, so hoping to check out the series the same way as well.
First round CWS games start at 11:00am EDT today. As per usual, weather in Appleton could be an issue.
Watching the first game right now... dialed into swings, speed, gloves, and throwing mechanics of all the players. First time I've seen a D3 game.
My 2018 looked at Swarthmore as well...super nice HC.
I'm in Northern IL, I thought Appleton was closer, just looked at google maps, not happening.
watching it now as well...would be nice to see a radar gun display though...a much needed addition to any game
Thanks for linking to the webcam. I haven't seen much DIII baseball and was interested to see the level of play, size of the players, etc... to compare to what I have seen in our area (DI, DII and HS). Watching the Texas-Tyler/Oswego game, the hitting looked pretty strong, but hard to tell about the pitching without knowing MPH. Anyone know what MPH the pitcher's were sitting at or the average for a DIII pitcher's FB? Also, I'm not sure if it was due to the video quality, but the players appeared to be smaller (height and weight) than most of the college players I have seen in our area. If this is true, is it due to the type of player typically recruited to the DIII schools or a product of the strength/conditioning programs available at the different NCAA levels? BTW, congrats to all of the forum members that have kids playing in college. I would love to see my 2022 out there someday.
JDUBSDAD posted:Thanks for linking to the webcam. I haven't seen much DIII baseball and was interested to see the level of play, size of the players, etc... to compare to what I have seen in our area (DI, DII and HS). Watching the Texas-Tyler/Oswego game, the hitting looked pretty strong, but hard to tell about the pitching without knowing MPH. Anyone know what MPH the pitcher's were sitting at or the average for a DIII pitcher's FB? Also, I'm not sure if it was due to the video quality, but the players appeared to be smaller (height and weight) than most of the college players I have seen in our area. If this is true, is it due to the type of player typically recruited to the DIII schools or a product of the strength/conditioning programs available at the different NCAA levels? BTW, congrats to all of the forum members that have kids playing in college. I would love to see my 2022 out there someday.
Not sure about today's games, but I'm guessing that the majority of D3 pitching is in the 80-85 mph range (FB). I think there's a pretty close correlation between general athleticism and the college baseball hierarchy (top D1 through bottom D3). D1 guys are probably taller at most positions; taller corner OFs and corner IFs, taller pitchers. D1 guys in general probably weigh more, too. More muscular. You won't see many skinny position players in high level D1 baseball. I'm sure strength and condition programs plays a role, but I think it's mostly genetics. Most kids could spend 8 hrs/day in the gym and never develop a physique like Jonathan India.
Thanks for the reply MIDATLANTIC DAD. 80-85 looks about right based upon what I am seeing in the video broadcast. (Note: As a hitter's dad, I have been somewhat surprised by the seemingly large strike zone the plate umpire has in the latest game. I may need to change him into a pitcher. ) Also, your thoughts regarding genetics make sense. My son is relatively early in the process (incoming HS freshman) and still growing so I'm not sure where he may fit in size-wise once things settle out. However, it is nice to know that there are options available at the various levels of competition if he keeps progressing skill-wise and wants to pursue college ball.
FWIW — The top four freshman at my son’s D3 are (RHP) 86-88, (RHP) 84-86 (RHP (85-87) and (LHP) 84-86. All have three pitches that can be thrown for strikes.
JDUBSDAD posted:Thanks for linking to the webcam. I haven't seen much DIII baseball and was interested to see the level of play, size of the players, etc... to compare to what I have seen in our area (DI, DII and HS). Watching the Texas-Tyler/Oswego game, the hitting looked pretty strong, but hard to tell about the pitching without knowing MPH. Anyone know what MPH the pitcher's were sitting at or the average for a DIII pitcher's FB? Also, I'm not sure if it was due to the video quality, but the players appeared to be smaller (height and weight) than most of the college players I have seen in our area. If this is true, is it due to the type of player typically recruited to the DIII schools or a product of the strength/conditioning programs available at the different NCAA levels? BTW, congrats to all of the forum members that have kids playing in college. I would love to see my 2022 out there someday.
My son's D3 team had a starting infield of 6'3, 6'4, 6'3 and 6'0 although it would be hard to tell from the streaming broadcast.
and also the 80-85 mph might be true for OVERALL average of D3 pitching but just not the case for son's team or league or schedule. I bet it is the same for these teams that made it to Appleton too. MAM said what the 4 freshman are throwing at their school and all 4 above 85. It is tough to get recruited to D3 nowadays at 80-85.
Almost every D3 team seems to have guys much higher - it is the depth that falls off for most schools. Son's team has several 90+ guys, and most guys are 85+.
My D3 kid says most teams in his conference have at least one starter and one reliever who throws 90. Sadly his team is not one of them!
You'll get some guys in D3 who were throwing 84 MPH when they were recruited as a rising HS senior, but by the time they are Juniors/seniors in college they are throwing high 80's. I would say that it is rare for a D3 pitcher in my neck of the woods to be touching 90's consistently, though.
I do see others at lesser D3's(baseball wise) who are still throwing around low 80's.
Great first-hand info from the DIII players regarding the make-up of their teams. The streaming video on my computer must have distorted the size of the players in today's games to make them look smaller. Good luck to all going forward.
Can’t speak to velocities with any authority but my son is 5’10” and he’s one of the two shortest players on his D3 team, a regional playoff participant. Almost everyone is over six feet tall with several players 6’3” or 6’4” and one pitcher who is 6’8”.
My D3 son is 5' 10" and also one of the shortest amoung the team. Also have a friend whose son is on a Mid tier D3 in So. Cal. Was told they have 3 guys throwing 88-90. Saw some D3 teams this year that could challenge some D1's i've seen