Son pitched one inning last night at the season opener.  He threw 14 pitches - 1 BB, 1 SO, 1 pop up, and 1 ground ball out.  He said he his glove hand was shaking.  He did good.  He will play tonight at SS for the JV team.     

My son, 2023 C, will be making his first HS start behind the dish tonight on varsity. He developed a severe case of the yips about 2 weeks ago. Can't throw the ball back to the pitcher. This is a kid that walked 2 batters in 31 innings over the past 2 years. He can normally put the ball anywhere he wants. It hurts to see him struggle. We've done a done of drills and worked with his pitching coach on his throwing mechanics. He's great when it is just us, but he is really struggling on the field. for some reason. The head coach told him he's not going to take him out if he struggles in the game and he's going to have to work through it. 

So, with that in mind, any positive vibes, mojo, or prayers are greatly appreciated. 

TerribleBPthrower posted:

My son, 2023 C, will be making his first HS start behind the dish tonight on varsity. He developed a severe case of the yips about 2 weeks ago. Can't throw the ball back to the pitcher. This is a kid that walked 2 batters in 31 innings over the past 2 years. He can normally put the ball anywhere he wants. It hurts to see him struggle. We've done a done of drills and worked with his pitching coach on his throwing mechanics. He's great when it is just us, but he is really struggling on the field. for some reason. The head coach told him he's not going to take him out if he struggles in the game and he's going to have to work through it. 

So, with that in mind, any positive vibes, mojo, or prayers are greatly appreciated. 

That sounds really difficult.  Best of luck to your son, and please post after the game to let us know how it goes.

Chico Escuela posted:
TerribleBPthrower posted:

My son, 2023 C, will be making his first HS start behind the dish tonight on varsity. He developed a severe case of the yips about 2 weeks ago. Can't throw the ball back to the pitcher. This is a kid that walked 2 batters in 31 innings over the past 2 years. He can normally put the ball anywhere he wants. It hurts to see him struggle. We've done a done of drills and worked with his pitching coach on his throwing mechanics. He's great when it is just us, but he is really struggling on the field. for some reason. The head coach told him he's not going to take him out if he struggles in the game and he's going to have to work through it. 

So, with that in mind, any positive vibes, mojo, or prayers are greatly appreciated. 

That sounds really difficult.  Best of luck to your son, and please post after the game to let us know how it goes.

Thanks Chico. I'm thankful he has played with most of the kids on the team for a year now, so they know what his usual play is like. They have been very supportive and encouraging while he is working through it.

Never actually seen the yips in person, but I would recommend reviewing previous threads to get some ideas. From what I have heard/read over the years this condition is almost completely mental, and is cycle of anxiety producing thoughts. If what you are describing as Yips is truly that, then looking into a sports psychologist may be a good thing to consider. Guys like Blass, Ankiel, etc.. tried to "work through it"  and didn't find much success on their own.

ReluctantO'sFan posted:

Never actually seen the yips in person, but I would recommend reviewing previous threads to get some ideas. From what I have heard/read over the years this condition is almost completely mental, and is cycle of anxiety producing thoughts. If what you are describing as Yips is truly that, then looking into a sports psychologist may be a good thing to consider. Guys like Blass, Ankiel, etc.. tried to "work through it"  and didn't find much success on their own.

The sports psychologist is the next step. There are some mechanical things going on when it happens. This is the first time he's ever worked exclusively on catcher throwing mechanics and he is getting stuck with the scap load which is throwing everything else off. However, once the first bad throw happens it goes downhill pretty fast. 

TerribleBPthrower posted:

My son, 2023 C, will be making his first HS start behind the dish tonight on varsity. He developed a severe case of the yips about 2 weeks ago. Can't throw the ball back to the pitcher. This is a kid that walked 2 batters in 31 innings over the past 2 years. He can normally put the ball anywhere he wants. It hurts to see him struggle. We've done a done of drills and worked with his pitching coach on his throwing mechanics. He's great when it is just us, but he is really struggling on the field. for some reason. The head coach told him he's not going to take him out if he struggles in the game and he's going to have to work through it. 

So, with that in mind, any positive vibes, mojo, or prayers are greatly appreciated. 

We dealt with this a few years ago.  We were at a tournament at OU in front of quite a few coaches and late in the game he airmailed one to the pitcher.  Then he did it again.  I think he had a few more but the game ended and we won so no one really paid any attention to it.  We got in the car and it was clearly in his head.  Between games we went to a park and worked on him throwing it back to me.  Thought it was fixed but it reared its ugly head again.  The more he thought about it the worst it got.  Here is how he got through it and then out of it.  To manage it we developed a count.  I think it was something like knee to the ground was 1, arm up 2, throw to pitcher 3 or something like that.  It helped.  What we learned was that the harder he threw it back to the pitcher the better he was and the more he tried to aim the worse it got.  The count evolved into fire it back to the pitcher and eventually the yips disappeared.  He also tried taking a few steps and shortening the distance but that just seemed to make it worse.

It was hard to watch, but the other players and parents didn't really notice.  I can remember telling a dad about it and he said he had no idea.  The only time they will really notice is when it costs you a base runner, a run scores or if it is happening every throw.  Not to add to the pain, but it is probably going to be rougher on a 2023 playing HS ball than it was for my kid playing on a showcase team with kids his own age. 

Now for the good news.  He made it through it.  The year before we had a 2021 kid play on our 2020 team and he developed something pretty close to the yips.  He ended up lobbing everything back to the pitcher.  The next year he committed to a solid D1 school.  He made it through it too.   I hate that your son is going through it but he will also get through it.  Be positive, patient and give him a hug when he needs it. 

I used to be a competitive amateur golfer but then in my late 30's developed the "Y" wordwhichshallnotbenamed when putting.  In a tournament round once I hit 13 greens in regulation and three jacked 8 of them. Pretty embarrassing.  Everyone knew what was happening.  It was a tough thing to overcome.  I went to cross handed putting, big grips, long putters.  Quit playing competitively for awhile.  It is an interesting phenomenon.  Usually occurs when people get fairly accomplished at something after many years. 

So for a young kid, I think he can overcome it!   I bet he doesn't have the problem when he is really active.  Usually happens with fairly stationary acts like putting or free throws.  Similar to what Dmac said:  Have him work on a set routine that he will use when he throws back to the pitcher; in addition to what he said, maybe:  pop the glove once so his hands aren't static and shuffle hard; point shoulder at target and GO. 

It helped me to not give a flying F about my score or what anyone thought of me.  Ultimately though, grooving my routine so I was process oriented instead of results oriented is what resolved it.   

Good luck and many positive thoughts your boy's way.  

So he made it through the game without his throws being too noticeable to anyone else. Before the game while the pitcher was warming up in the pen he sailed a couple way off but was firing balls back to the pitcher. Somewhere around the 3rd inning something happened and he started to lob the ball back. He tried to throw it hard a couple of times and you could see the discomfort. Had one terrible throw while the pitcher was warming up between innings.

It is crazy to watch knowing what is going on. He threw a kid out with a perfect crisp throw to the inside on a bunt play, threw out 2 kids trying to steal with great throws, but that throw to the mound is just awkward right now. 

First day of the official season in Southern California. Beautiful 70degree weather. Most teams played double headers. Was able to catch our son’s games plus most of another local HS where friend’s son was starting for first time as a varsity pitcher.  It’s my favorite time of year!  Next week Orange Lutheran (3-peat National High School Invitational winners) are rumored to start Max Rajcic against La Mirada’s Jared Jones game is being held at Cal state Fullerton.  Both pitchers are expected to get drafted early.  Lefty is going with some friends to watch some outstanding pitching. I may go to watch the scouts. Did I mention this is my favorite time of year?

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