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dialedin posted:

I don't know what P5 is (sorry). I did not realize that a scholarship could be revoked. That's kind of scary. We realize it won't be much $$ and he'd be fortunate to get any, but every bit helps. He is very realistic about his abilities and where he will be applying but maybe we will reassess everything at this point. Even a few thousand dollars makes a difference and if there is a constant threat of it being revoked. Yikes. Thanks for the info ... we learn something new every day!

P5 stands for the Power 5 conferences.  Big 12, Big 10, ACC, SEC and Pac 12. 

dialedin posted:

I don't know what P5 is (sorry). I did not realize that a scholarship could be revoked. That's kind of scary. We realize it won't be much $$ and he'd be fortunate to get any, but every bit helps. He is very realistic about his abilities and where he will be applying but maybe we will reassess everything at this point. Even a few thousand dollars makes a difference and if there is a constant threat of it being revoked. Yikes. Thanks for the info ... we learn something new every day!

P5 being the top (power) five conferences of D1 baseball... those are the only that have rules in place to offer scholarship for the four year duration.  All other scholarships are typically on a one year basis.  So, it's not so much revoked as it is not renewed the following year.

Another thing that you will want to be aware of and hopefully applies to your situation - most baseball players find that far more money is available from academic scholarship, grants, etc., than baseball scholy $.  And you don't have to be anywhere near a 4.0 to receive this money.  

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dialedin posted:

I don't know what P5 is (sorry). I did not realize that a scholarship could be revoked. That's kind of scary. We realize it won't be much $$ and he'd be fortunate to get any, but every bit helps. He is very realistic about his abilities and where he will be applying but maybe we will reassess everything at this point. Even a few thousand dollars makes a difference and if there is a constant threat of it being revoked. Yikes. Thanks for the info ... we learn something new every day!

P5 = Power 5 Conferences (B10, ACC, Pac-12, Big 12, and SEC).  Just an acronym for the biggest 5 NCAA Division I conferences.

Cabbage has seen and knows much more than I on this topic.  So as he notes, even lower level DIs can and do reduce or "pull" baseball athletic scholarships.  But that being said, I wouldn't characterize it as "a constant threat" of being revoked as you say in your post above.  Yes, the student athlete should have his eyes wide open and should work as hard as possible, keep up grades and be the best teammate as possible.  That's all he can control.  It does no good to dwell on it.

Not sure where you are in the process, but maybe you could do some due diligence as to how many players remain on the roster all 4 years or talk with graduates who formerly played in the program (or their parents) to see if the program has "cut" scholarship players or frequently reduce scholarship amounts, at least to try to get a general sense of things.  There is no guarantee though - take your best shot and hope it works out and is a good experience for your son, academically, athletically and socially.

For the OP, some schools are noted for keeping their scholarships intact for 4 years.  When your son starts to get offers, I am sure there will be some on this board that can help you through a private message.  Keewartson's school was one of the schools that was famous for keeping kids on scholarship.  Even if they sat the bench.  Even if the coach tried to get them to leave....and the player didn't....the scholarship was there.   One player was even offered the same amount in scholarship money form another source just to leave the team (he still wanted to be on the team).

Keewartson's scholarship was spelled out for 4 years, even thought the NLI was for a year.  The second year, a different higher amount was offered since a player was drafted and more money was available (YAY for us!).  But, in that same letter, the 3rd year offer would be reduced to free up some money for an incoming pitcher (oh ,well).  It was basically a wash, but it helped out the coach in money appropriations.  

As noted several places above, MOST ALL baseball scholarships are partial, and of the 34-35 on the team, some are getting no money at all.  If you hear of someone getting a full ride, they are either lying, don't know much about baseball, or it really is a full ride to probably keep the player from going in the draft after high school.  Those are very very few.

I probably missed this at some point during reading this thread but receiving a P5 athletic scholly is not much different then any other. Yes, programs are on the hook but if they are not happy with performance and/or no longer see upside, then the player might as well be cut. No playing time, no coaching, no travel, etc. I don't have any stats but I would venture to say that almost all of them transfer out. 

Also, if you aren't at a P5, your scholarship in years 2, 3 and 4 isn't necessarily going to be the same every year.  You may get 50% the first year to entice you to come to the school....and it may drop to 25% the next year.  My son was asked to take no money his junior year so they could bring in a JUCO kid with the promise he'd get double his senior year (we politely declined) lol

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