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@D6L posted:

Just like to update, he is now 5'9" and 123lbs, we went to our customary tryout for his mid level club team.  He was cruising at 76-77 on his fast ball and -10 - -12 on his off speed.  Clocked 7.07 in the 60.

 

This year we did little of weight lifting, squats and dead lift, not more than 100lbs, little bit of plyometrics, a little long toss and cardio.

He is 5'11 and half, almost 6', weighs 135!!!  Doctors says he had a late growth spurt and he may grow another 2-3, we will see.  But he is throwing 78-83, consistently in the 80s, one tryout he was clocked 84, I didn't see it so.  We are trying to gain weight.  He has try this and that on his own.  If anyone has some ideas, I would love to hear.

Update a year later,



Son 2022, is past 6', close to 6'1" and still growing, weighs 150 on a good day, velocity is sitting around 83 84.  Now he is getting noticed, received genuine emails and not spam, not asking for money for camps, lol and phone conference calls with DIII head coaches.  If his projection is consistent from all of his years, he should be throwing 86-88 by the end of this year.  Love to add some weight on his body though.

Mass=gas (to an extent). Help him understand that gaining mass is part of the job and just as important as working out. Find out his daily calorie intake and add a couple thousand calories. Sneak in olive oil and other good fats wherever you can (rice, oatmeal milkshakes, etc.). It sounds like he may not be past his pubertal growth spurt so he may still grow quite a bit and add a good chunk of velocity. Feed him.

@D6L posted:

Update a year later,



Son 2022, is past 6', close to 6'1" and still growing, weighs 150 on a good day, velocity is sitting around 83 84.  Now he is getting noticed, received genuine emails and not spam, not asking for money for camps, lol and phone conference calls with DIII head coaches.  If his projection is consistent from all of his years, he should be throwing 86-88 by the end of this year.  Love to add some weight on his body though.

Our sons sound like twins.

This has been a great journey/journal since we started posting here on this site.  Something I can look back on and reminiscence the past.  Son still 6'1" and little less than 150lbs on a good eating day, very very athletic, at 5'10 he could dunk a basketball, just came back from 18U WWBA World Championships in Jupiter FL.   I was really humbled with all the tremendous talent gathered in one area, and it's an experience our son will enjoy and remember for rest of his life.  One thing my son said to me "i belong here" still rings.

End of August there were rumors from D3 college scouts that he touched 88, in the fall there were no rumors, our son was consistently hitting 87-88 and now touching 89 on many occasions.  We are hopeful after good winter workout we can pass 90.  His increase in velo has passed my expectations for his year.

We have never used weighted balls for this journey, if there was a week of lull, we would use long toss to maintain strength and the long toss was completely on his own discretion, continuously preaching, listen to his arm.

We have a lot of d3 schools calling, but his goal has been to go to d1, we have given him information of d3 vs d1 and he understands, he has been a late bloomer.

@D6L posted:

This has been a great journey/journal since we started posting here on this site.  Something I can look back on and reminiscence the past.  Son still 6'1" and little less than 150lbs on a good eating day, very very athletic, at 5'10 he could dunk a basketball, just came back from 18U WWBA World Championships in Jupiter FL.   I was really humbled with all the tremendous talent gathered in one area, and it's an experience our son will enjoy and remember for rest of his life.  One thing my son said to me "i belong here" still rings.

End of August there were rumors from D3 college scouts that he touched 88, in the fall there were no rumors, our son was consistently hitting 87-88 and now touching 89 on many occasions.  We are hopeful after good winter workout we can pass 90.  His increase in velo has passed my expectations for his year.

We have never used weighted balls for this journey, if there was a week of lull, we would use long toss to maintain strength and the long toss was completely on his own discretion, continuously preaching, listen to his arm.

We have a lot of d3 schools calling, but his goal has been to go to d1, we have given him information of d3 vs d1 and he understands, he has been a late bloomer.

He has to really think hard about the D1 v D3 logic, particularly in this current era.  I've posted this a few times in the past year, but a very clear impact from Covid was essentially the reverberation down the food chain for talent.  Since so many kids took 5th years, incoming 20/21 Freshman who wanted a better chance at playing time before their Junior years opted to drop down a level or two to Juco, D2 and D3.  Thus the pool for D3 is not the same as it was a few years ago.  It's gotten FAR more competitive.  I'd take that into consideration, because while the allure of big time D1 baseball is tough to ignore, the reality is *actually* playing is pretty appealing when you've made the full time commitment to college baseball.  Go where you're loved, where you love, and where you can play.  Don't get overly caught up in labels.

@Wechson posted:

He has to really think hard about the D1 v D3 logic, particularly in this current era.  I've posted this a few times in the past year, but a very clear impact from Covid was essentially the reverberation down the food chain for talent.  Since so many kids took 5th years, incoming 20/21 Freshman who wanted a better chance at playing time before their Junior years opted to drop down a level or two to Juco, D2 and D3.  Thus the pool for D3 is not the same as it was a few years ago.  It's gotten FAR more competitive.  I'd take that into consideration, because while the allure of big time D1 baseball is tough to ignore, the reality is *actually* playing is pretty appealing when you've made the full time commitment to college baseball.  Go where you're loved, where you love, and where you can play.  Don't get overly caught up in labels.

Just to add my tiny $.02 to this comment - I am by far NO recruiting expert, but my 2024 is beginning this whole crazy process!  He is a RHP and is highly projectable (per his coaches), but he still has a lot of room for growth and development. As he says, "I'm still a rough project that needs several drafts before the final paper gets turned in." Off track - sorry -  He is being looked at by schools of ALL levels.  He of course was all starry eyed at the very beginning and wanted only to entertain the top D1 school idea, but, from the knowledge I have learned here on this board, I've been able to open his eyes to the "Go where you are loved, where you love and where you can play" mentality.

For weeks now I've showed him roster after roster of many, many schools on his list that are filled with JUCO kids and transfer kids from high level D1 schools.  There are by far more JUCO transfers, other "high level" school transfers and sophomores, juniors and seniors on these rosters then freshman.  He finally understands how recruiting has changed, especially, post Covid.

So, it is VERY important for kids to grasp this and more so, embrace this thought process. I'm seeing it with my own two eyes right now!

It's also really important to know (that especially now), coaches have over recruited at the D1 level. The bigger rosters allowed them to do that.  I went to a practice last week and heard several parents saying things like, "If we are still here after December..."  Last year, no roster limit, this year 40. We currently have 50.  10 are going to have to leave at Christmas or be redshirted.  There are a couple of guys that transferred in and I'm sure are starry eyed, that are just not going to make it.  It is a tough, tough situation right now.  I haven't heard if they are going back to normal rosters next year, but even with 40 on the roster this year, only 27 will travel, so almost half the current team will not play or will be cut.

On the topic of getting stronger. It has a huge effect on Velo/power.  Most of my son's class (pitchers) came in touching 94, we now have 2 hitting 99. And several more hitting 96-97. They have a greatStrength coach. Most have gained at least 10-15 lbs last year.  Our freshman of the year gained 20lbs.  It makes a difference.

@Wechson posted:

Since so many kids took 5th years, incoming 20/21 Freshman who wanted a better chance at playing time before their Junior years opted to drop down a level or two to Juco, D2 and D3. 

It's even worse than that. NJCAA granted a blanket waiver for the 2020-21 year, as well as 2019-20. I'm not clear on all the details, but there are lots of juco transfers who are listed as freshmen on current D1 rosters who graduated high school in 2019. They didn't play many games in 2019-20, but could have played an entire season in 2020-21. So, many of those "kids" will still be D1 eligible in 2024-25... muscling out kids who are graduating from high school in 2024. Crazy.

Just to add my tiny $.02 to this comment - I am by far NO recruiting expert, but my 2024 is beginning this whole crazy process!  He is a RHP and is highly projectable (per his coaches), but he still has a lot of room for growth and development. As he says, "I'm still a rough project that needs several drafts before the final paper gets turned in." Off track - sorry -  He is being looked at by schools of ALL levels.  He of course was all starry eyed at the very beginning and wanted only to entertain the top D1 school idea, but, from the knowledge I have learned here on this board, I've been able to open his eyes to the "Go where you are loved, where you love and where you can play" mentality.

For weeks now I've showed him roster after roster of many, many schools on his list that are filled with JUCO kids and transfer kids from high level D1 schools.  There are by far more JUCO transfers, other "high level" school transfers and sophomores, juniors and seniors on these rosters then freshman.  He finally understands how recruiting has changed, especially, post Covid.

So, it is VERY important for kids to grasp this and more so, embrace this thought process. I'm seeing it with my own two eyes right now!

@baseballmom05, etal:

This is an extremely insightful post, the only thing I would add that it is a lot more fun to win than lose, so drop the "D1" aspirations and go "where you are loved" as well as go "where there is a winning tradition" and "go where you will have fun" as it is a lot more fun to win at Dx level then to lose consistently at the D1 level.

I would also add "go where you will contribute" which in the end is the most important...other than "go where you can get a great education" as in the end this the most important.

Best of luck!

@D6L posted:

This has been a great journey/journal since we started posting here on this site.  Something I can look back on and reminiscence the past.  Son still 6'1" and little less than 150lbs on a good eating day, very very athletic, at 5'10 he could dunk a basketball, just came back from 18U WWBA World Championships in Jupiter FL.   I was really humbled with all the tremendous talent gathered in one area, and it's an experience our son will enjoy and remember for rest of his life.  One thing my son said to me "i belong here" still rings.

End of August there were rumors from D3 college scouts that he touched 88, in the fall there were no rumors, our son was consistently hitting 87-88 and now touching 89 on many occasions.  We are hopeful after good winter workout we can pass 90.  His increase in velo has passed my expectations for his year.

We have never used weighted balls for this journey, if there was a week of lull, we would use long toss to maintain strength and the long toss was completely on his own discretion, continuously preaching, listen to his arm.

We have a lot of d3 schools calling, but his goal has been to go to d1, we have given him information of d3 vs d1 and he understands, he has been a late bloomer.

Was your son strength training? If he's just starting and thinks he is going to walk into a D1 program and in the fall and survive he's going to be shocked. There was probably a time when "just wait til he gets on campus and starts lifting" was a thing. My son is at a low level D1 and has kids there benching 240-265 for reps.

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