Wow....talk about stong.
Remember when Bo Jackson snapped a bat in half over his knee?
Wow....talk about stong.
Wow....talk about stong.
There are teams with that sort of personality --- the Cubs, under Baker, became a "demonstrative" 
team, and the hiring of Pinella wasn't going to change that. A player with any sort of propensity to tantrums isn't going to employ self-restraint in that atmosphere.
TG, Delmon Young springs to mind. Although that incident was in the minors, it didn't slow his promotion.
team, and the hiring of Pinella wasn't going to change that. A player with any sort of propensity to tantrums isn't going to employ self-restraint in that atmosphere.TG, Delmon Young springs to mind. Although that incident was in the minors, it didn't slow his promotion.
quote:Originally posted by southernmom:
And to think my son's college coach told my son he needed to work on his mound presence!
After thinking about it, the guy's already arrived, he doesn't have to worry about how his mound precense will affect his draft status.
It slowed him down for fifty games. But that's a whole other set of circumstances. Had Young just slammed his bat down he would have been in a lot less trouble. I also wonder how Young would have been handle in a well run major league organization. I think all Young learned is a player can act whatever way he wants as long as he can play. Then he becomes a role model for behavior doesn't matter.quote:Originally posted by Orlando:
There are teams with that sort of personality --- the Cubs, under Baker, became a "demonstrative"
TG, Delmon Young springs to mind. Although that incident was in the minors, it didn't slow his promotion.
If a minor league pitcher reacted the way Lilly did, do you think it would be in the manager's nightly report regarding his composure?
quote:Did anyone else notice Lilly take off his glove and slam it on the ground when he gave up a homer. He looked like a spoiled ten year old Little Leaguer on the mound. Act like a professional!
I saw it. I half expected him to fall to the ground on his stomach, kicking and pounding the dirt, only to quickly exit the field with clay caked tear stains on each cheek, have his mom clean him up and take him to DQ for a cone.
What do you suppose is the percentage of pitchers who throw their gloves, punch the Gatorade container, kick the trash barrel ect... in the dugout in full view of the t.v. cameras after a bad outing? I've never heard anyone really care about that. Where do you suppose the majority of eyes were at the moment Lilly threw his glove down? That's right, following the ball. I'm not condoning it, I just don't think it's that bigga deal.
As far as Piniella's arguing, I agree it's definately part of the game but he's had some really bombastic tirades that make him look plain silly. You'd never see Torre, Francona, Randolph ect, managers with class do things like throw bases, kick dirt at umpires, whatever. And for Piniella to comment as he did makes him a hypocrite to the enth degree, certainly not someone who was "sticking up for his player".
As far as Piniella's arguing, I agree it's definately part of the game but he's had some really bombastic tirades that make him look plain silly. You'd never see Torre, Francona, Randolph ect, managers with class do things like throw bases, kick dirt at umpires, whatever. And for Piniella to comment as he did makes him a hypocrite to the enth degree, certainly not someone who was "sticking up for his player".
quote:Originally posted by Dad04:
...with clay caked tear stains on each cheek, have his mom clean him up and take him to DQ for a cone.
Chill out Ted...take a deep breath!
And this dipped cone might just match those clay caked cheeks!
I know one personally. 
He didn't get in trouble for it,but did because he banged his FOOT and HAND against the wall. Should have thrown the glove.
He says he didn't know the camara was on him.
He has been instructed to never do it again.
I do not like that behavior, not one bit, neither do a lot of people, but it's hard to understand unless you have been in a pressure cooker situation, how you would react.
And poptimeis right, so many excuse dugout behavior, why is this different?
JMO.
He didn't get in trouble for it,but did because he banged his FOOT and HAND against the wall. Should have thrown the glove.
He says he didn't know the camara was on him.
He has been instructed to never do it again.
I do not like that behavior, not one bit, neither do a lot of people, but it's hard to understand unless you have been in a pressure cooker situation, how you would react.
And poptimeis right, so many excuse dugout behavior, why is this different?
JMO.
I agree with you TPM. I might add that there are lots and lots of players who have been in that pressure cooker and they did not act that way when things didn't work out so well. Ted is just one of the few who react poorly when he gets into a jam. That was evident last night.
there are so many cameras, it's getting tough to cheat anymore without 3 miilion folks watching ya
Rockie's Corpas - loading up??
Rockie's Corpas - loading up??
Wow Bee>,
you have legitamitely hijacked this thread.
you have legitamitely hijacked this thread.
that PU had to have told the catcher BEFORE the pitch that ball would be immediatly
removed from play
quote:I'm not condoning it, I just don't think it's that bigga deal.
It's probably not that a bigga deal to anyone but the opposing team that smells blood 10 miles away. He showed his azz and told the The DBacks "You own me." He gave up 3 more runs before leaving, turning a 3-2 game into a 6-2 game. Results matter. If the Cubs win he is a firey pitcher. They lost so he's something else. Slamming a glove into the rubber raises eyebrows at any level. The Cubs obviously aren't going anywhere.
As a Dbacks fan I must say that it was appropriate for the situation.
I expect to see many more pitchers doing that in the upcoming weeks when they play the juggernaut tht we call the "Snakes"!!
You can't stop them, just hope to contain them.
Go Dbacks!!
I expect to see many more pitchers doing that in the upcoming weeks when they play the juggernaut tht we call the "Snakes"!!
You can't stop them, just hope to contain them.
Go Dbacks!!
Throwing gloves, bats...where is the originality?
quote:Originally posted by Tiger Paw Mom:
Wow Bee>,
you have legitimitely hijacked this thread.
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The dugout isn't the open field. The player in the dugout isn't the center of attention like the pitcher or hitter on the field unless the camera follows him into the dugout.quote:Originally posted by Tiger Paw Mom:
And poptimeis right, so many excuse dugout behavior, why is this different? JMO.
This is the all-time classic. Too bad you didn't have the video to post.quote:Originally posted by TripleDad:
Throwing gloves, bats...where is the originality?
Here you go TG...it's a classic for sure!
Enjoy: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-48400910630294...ype=search&plindex=0
Of course this one is not too shabby either: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9206342900674238570
Enjoy: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-48400910630294...ype=search&plindex=0
Of course this one is not too shabby either: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9206342900674238570
I am sorry, no matter how many times I see it, this is the funniest thing I have seen all year. Thanks again for the chuckle.
Bobby Cox in training! Gotta love it!
Bobby Cox in training! Gotta love it!