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Canes 1 and who ever, 1 cannot judge a team after a few games, geez, The Tallwood/ FC game was a good game, The FC pitcher threw well, I would say he was FC's 5th or 6th pitcher, and he won, and he threw a good game, today, FC played a gutsy game with several players out with flu, and others not starting for other reasons, Bodie Sheenan threw a heck of a game, just 24 balls in 7 inngs, overall, every team will be better at years end, and also want to point out that the weather has been horrible, i think coaches are concerned about pitch counts this early so your seeing alot of different pitchers

Canes1 you might want to do some fact checking,

fc won with a soph lefty pitcher and several starters not in the line up. Good game both teams hr for fc was big. Pretty impressive.

as far as your comments on kellam, well time will only tell. If you look at what many of these players have achieved with kellam and yes the drillers its hard to understand the basis of your position. Maybe you can share where you are comming from to enlighten the rest of us?

Originally Posted by pirates21:

Canes1 you might want to do some fact checking,

fc won with a soph lefty pitcher and several starters not in the line up. Good game both teams hr for fc was big. Pretty impressive.

as far as your comments on kellam, well time will only tell. If you look at what many of these players have achieved with kellam and yes the drillers its hard to understand the basis of your position. Maybe you can share where you are comming from to enlighten the rest of us?

all but one starter entered the game by 3rd inning. FC pitcher did a good job, especialy first 2 innings. Landstowns big bats did not show up at all, Blankenship had only meaningful hit, 2 RBI single. #24 for FC hit a nice shot to knot it up at 2, eventual game winner should not have scored. 

Originally Posted by SFaison:
Originally Posted by pirates21:

Canes1 you might want to do some fact checking,

fc won with a soph lefty pitcher and several starters not in the line up. Good game both teams hr for fc was big. Pretty impressive.

as far as your comments on kellam, well time will only tell. If you look at what many of these players have achieved with kellam and yes the drillers its hard to understand the basis of your position. Maybe you can share where you are comming from to enlighten the rest of us?

all but one starter entered the game by 3rd inning. FC pitcher did a good job, especialy first 2 innings. Landstowns big bats did not show up at all, Blankenship had only meaningful hit, 2 RBI single. #24 for FC hit a nice shot to knot it up at 2, eventual game winner should not have scored. 

The run did score before the out was recorded at second is the way I saw it. I can't answer why the left fielder flipped the ball to the short stop rather than throw home, he had a real good chance at getting the runner. Landstown short stop made several amazing plays, kid has unbelievable range and a absolute cannon for an arm. FC pitcher did a great job and FC starters did trickle in thru out the game.

And your right about the Landstown SS, Faison, just a great ball player and person, In fact, alot has been said that the Beach is down, but wow, we have some great SS thru out the District, Walker, Faison, Brown, Pezzella, Lamb, well he's at 3rd,even King from Bayside makes great plays, and maybe the best isn't on the field this year, Davis, and the run did cross home plate before the out at 2nd,

Canes,

  3 years ago more than half of the current Kellam starting lineup were starting as Freshman.  That season they finished 4th in the regular season and lost 2-1 to Shawn Morimando and OL in the Beach District semi-finals on a passed ball.  Since you have "been around" for a long time watching Beach baseball then you obviously know that these same Kellam players have been District and Regional Champions the past 2 years ?  "Middle of the pack" ?  Your opine isn't even that fella...       

Picking up on the Pitching strategy discussion regarding Coaches choosing to Pitch their #1 against their non-Kellam opponent, here is some insight. It looks like baring rainouts and assuming pitchers can throw a Friday then a Tuesday then there are only 4 weeks throughout the season where Coaches have the opportunity to “not pitch” their best against Kellam; Cox twice, FC once, Green Run once.

Cox plays Kellam today and again in late April where they also play Landstown the same week. I expect Cox to stick with their strategy of using 2 to 4 pitchers (maybe more if it gets ugly) in both Kellam games and against many other opponents.

 FC has already played Kellam once and they had to throw several pitchers and it was clear from the way FC started the game that they were there to compete. They play Kellam again during the 2nd to last week of the season. During that week they play Landstown on Tuesday, so I suspect that they will go with their #1 on Tuesday and try to get that win then throw what they have left at Kellam on Friday. Likely everyone at FC; coaches, players, parents, etc. will be supportive of this strategy.

Green Run plays Landstown on a Tuesday and then plays Kellam on a Friday during the last 2 game week of the year. If Green Run is in any jeopardy of falling out of the District playoff picture they will throw their best at Landstown, do what they can against Kellam and then throw their best at Tallwood (last game). Doing this puts their best on the mound in 2 of their 3 last games; so the fact that Kellam is the middle game likely won’t change their strategy.

So bottom line is it does not look to me like we need to worry about how coaches are going to handle pitching assignments with Kellam this year. Kellam will get their fair share of what the Beach teams can offer this season.

Originally Posted by playright:
Originally Posted by redbird5:
Originally Posted by baseballdadto2:
Coach moved him to 3rd.

Wow

Culver Lambs future is on the mound not on the field. He is a good player but does not compare to the top 4 or 5 SS in the beach but is one of the top 4 or 5 pitchers IMHO.

I agree his future is on the mound but he is the best all around player on Tallwood.

Originally Posted by paintboy:

I don't believe the Kellam team can be as good as last year since they lost Mitch Moynihan to graduation.

You are suggesting that the remainder of Kellam's team, the majority of which played significant roles last year as juniors, are incapable of collectively improving enough to overcome the loss of one player.

 

Wow. Ok.

Originally Posted by paintboy:

I did not reference any other players. I do not believe they will be as good as last year. When you lose the player of the year how can you improve? Using your theory you are downplaying what Mitch did.

I'll address your comments in two parts:

 

1) "How do you improve when you lose the POY?"   Simple.  Everyone else get better!  Baseball is, in fact, a team game.  In addition, and I could be wrong, but I thought the kid from Cox was the Beach POY.  Not that that matters.

 

2) "Using your theory you are downplaying what Mitch did."  Not at all.  Using my facts, I'm certain that the majority of the starters on that team, will be playing in college, several of which at the Division 1 level.  Losing one D-1 kid, and returning a handful is not a recipe for failure!  Suggesting that they cannot be as good, or better, without Moynihan is to suggest that he was the only reason for their success last year.  The number of kids moving on to play in college, and the coaches who have recruited them are suggesting otherwise.  (aka ODU)

Originally Posted by playright:
Originally Posted by redbird5:

Wait...why isn't Hunter Davis playing at PA?

Hmmmmm? Good question!

i inderstand he was not able to attend school for an extended period of time during the fall. now here is where i am way out of my area of expertise. Students who miss more than the maximum number of days automatically fail each class, however a waiver can be granted at the end of the school year, and since the waiver cannot be reviewed yet, he is ineligible. 

Originally Posted by paintboy:

I did not say that Kellam's season will be a failure. I stated that they will not be as good as last year with Mitch Moynihan graduated. After all they were in the state championship game.

Based upon your statement, am I to infer that you believe that Kellam will not advance to the state championship game; and therefore, if they happened to lose in the state quarterfinals or dare I say the Eastern Regional, that they are not as good as they were last year?

 

If that's the case, that line of thinking suggests that all teams who advance further in the postseason are better (ie, more talented), than those who don't.  If that's where you are coming from, then we'll have to completely disagree.  Match-ups mean everything in tournament play.

 

By that logic, Granby was better last year than Hickory or Western Branch.  After all, neither Hickory nor Western Branch made the regional tournament.

 

Paintboy, your insinuation is ridiculous, Moynihan was a stud player and leader for kellam but they are better this year across the board because every other player is better than they was last year. If Kellam doesn’t make it to the state championship I don’t think it reflects on the quality of team they are, like heals said, match-ups are everything. Great Bridge and Kellam are undeniably the 2 best teams in tidewater and I think everybody would love to see them playing for the Eastern regional championship, Connor Jones against Sam Sinnen or Turner Bishop.

I was mistaken about the new conferneces kicking in this year but I think the Beach and SED meet in the first round of the Regionals this year.  If by some chance Kellam or GB finish 2nd while the other finishes first they will play in the first game of the regional assuming that they get out of district.  So what that will result in is a great team going home way too early. 

 

 

Monstercup all I have is an opinion but to be better than last year the team would have to win the tournaments. The team last year advanced to the last game of the last tournament. So using the logic presented by you and others the team could not advance out of the region and still be better? I don't see the logic because last year the team faced all of the obstacles and advanced.

hey Canes1,  can you be more inappropriate?  Just because you think you have information doesn't mean you have to broadcast that information.  I'm sure everyone is impressed with your intimate level of knowledge with all the goings on with the team and your deep and  insightful evaluation of a players talent.  now remove your post 

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