Beating A Dead Horse?

First....Shoeless Joe Jackson.

Second...Charlie Hustle.

Let the steroid boy's wait, say, 88 years like Jackson!

It's funny how often I agree with Soxnole when we aren't talking about the current White Sox or Cubs teams.

"What he did was wrong, and unethical...but as far as Pete Rose the player, he never ever cheated the game of baseball"


Pete Rose did cheat the game of baseball. It was specifically stated after 1919 that gambling on baseball would result in a lifetime ban. Pete Rose knew this, and he shouldn't be let off the hook just because baseball faces a new, modern integrity issue.

Not a single owner in 1919 had an ounce of integrity, especially robber baron Comiskey!

Landis, the owners and the entire country were overtly racist.

This kind of "integrity" makes me puke!

Poor old illiterate Joe Jackson was a better man than any of the men that ran the game!

and today?........not much has changed!

Gambling as done with the 1919 White Sox had to be dealt with, at that time it threatened the game. Joe Jackson and others in differing degrees were the scapegoats. Owners knew this was going on all along and I'd BET they were participants. Since then the whole thing was just part of baseball lore, something that was actually romanticized over the years. It only served to make baseball overly harsh on gambling. Punished, yes...banned no way.

Other players show more disrespect by far....performance enhancing drugs, plain old illegal drugs and other embarrassing behavior that goes with either a slap on the wrist or nothing. Bud Selig and the current band of owners as a whole have been horrible stewards of the game and are worse than the players.

what I was trying to say "he never cheated the game" was that gambling had nothing to do with his baseball numbers

can we say the same aboout todays players?