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RossGA posted:

PABaseball - Good to hear from someone in the Braves marketing department.   As currently constructed the Braves have a zero percent chance of winning the WS.  Prospects are cool, parades are cooler.  After suffering through a rebuild, fans have been told the Braves would be shopping in any aisle this offseason.  AA left out that while shopping in any aisle he would be standing in the dollar store.  Braves would have one of the better situations in baseball if management and ownership cared about winning.  Unfortunately they do not.  So we will suffer through the season with a minor league rotation and bullpen and half of a major league lineup.

Yeah I didn't think I'd get the job considering I'm a Yankees fan from the northeast. But now that I have it I'm here to tell you that the sky isn't falling because of the failure to sign powerhouse Patrick Corbin to an 8 year deal.  

You're right though. Management doesn't care about winning, that is why they decided not to make any moves this offseason. They wouldn't want to make the playoffs two years in a row. I might lose my job if that happens. Good thing the fans are done, they don't have to endure it anymore. 

Dominik85 posted:
PABaseball posted:
RossGA posted:

Ton's of $$$ in the game.  $ 11 billion plus.  Historically teams have spend 50% of revenue on the on field product.  Which would mean average payroll should be $ 183 million per team.  We are $ 50 million below historical norms and the fans are paying the price for Tony Clark being bad at his job.  Braves have revenue of $ 442 million and are using that $$ to fund real estate dev.  Payroll of $ 110 million for the Braves is an embarrassment.    Braves if they cared about winning a WS have the resources to put together a championship contender.  The focus for the Braves is utilizing baseball money for real estate dev.  #fireAA.  

https://sports.yahoo.com/brave...ren-t-160548142.html 

https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2019...eir-fans-are-idiots/

More than half the Braves roster is made up of young guys still playing under the rookie contract. That gives them flexibility when the young guys need to get paid and if they're still in the hunt come July, to trade for a pitcher with a big price tag. Keuchel and Kimbrel are still out there as well. 

This is the same team that made the playoffs last year with a bunch of rookies. They're in pretty good shape now and moving forward. If they can get back to the playoffs with only spending 110, why would they not do it? Spending more money ≠ a championship. 

One of the articles mentions starting pitching as a priority. There weren't many good options this offseason. Corbin was the best option. Next year there is Cole, Bumgarner, Wheeler, Porcello, and possibly Strasburg. And if Donaldson doesn't prove himself, that is an extra 23 million freed up. A good case can be made that the Braves have one of the better situations in baseball. Far from embarrassing. 

They aren't in a bad spot but the phillies improved big time and the nats also didn't get worse despite losing Harper.

They are young but the phillies have probably overtaken them and the Nats probably will bounce back too.

Not saying they should have paid 300m for machado but they shouldn't have let the phillies pass them without a fight and a good reliever would have helped with that. Projections of fangraphs see the braves as a 4th place team after winning last year.

They definitely could've made some moves this offseason. I think they know they have a good young core and don't want to give out any long term deals. But I still would've went hard after Realmuto. 

There wasn't much of a pitching market this offseason. Corbin wasn't going to save that rotation. There just weren't enough options. I don't there there were enough FA starters that would've made that rotation significantly better. 

As far as the Phillies and Nats. Not a great situation, but you also have to think of the long term plan, not just spend recklessly for unproven players or overpay Harper. Without sounding too much like a Braves employee I think they make some moves the next two years and the young guys step up and round out the lineup. A lot of FA in the next 3 years. 

RossGA posted:

They are in a terrible spot. Fans in Atlanta are done.

Fangraphs and MLB power rankings has the Braves as the 4th best team in the NL East.  https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-p...er-rankings-coverage 

Which is correct.  They have the revenue to have signed Machado, Harper and Kimbrel and still have $ 30 million left over.  Then you trade for Realmuto and now you have a team.  Instead Phillies, Mets and Nationals got better while AA went into hibernation.  

Well you need to plan for multiple years and not just next year. The core is getting expensive in 2-3 years so they can't spend too much now or it will blow up. 

However I do think they could have easily afforded another 20m on the roster but not 50m. They probably should get kimbrel if the price is reasonable.

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