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@Triple J posted:

Been hunting since I was 16. Not looking for approval, just being a little facetious adbono. At my age I am kind of beyond worrying about approval except from God above.

Now back to the Crowder game. They are smokin the Seminole State OK boys. Kinda like this JUCO ball!!

One of the great things about getting older is the thought process … “What the hell! I’ll say it and see how people react.”

I left the corporate world at 29. But we did build a company to 250 employees. We were like family. But the more the company grew the less it was like close family.

If I was in the corporate world today and told I had to take some kind of “woke” training I would find it hard not to toss the manual in the air and say, “F it. I’m outta here” as I headed for the door.

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Are you playing in a Cincy Flames tournament?  Our teams usually stayed in the Blue Ash area, which is nice, and had easy highway access to game locations from northern Kentucky to Dayton.  There were, I think, several hotels on the tournament list there.  Newport, KY also has hotels and is a nice area.

Related to that, while I'm sympathetic to those who don't stay in the official hotels, I'd just note that most of these tournaments require a certain number of team members to stay in their hotels. One year I was the team hotel coordinator, and I did get called by some tournaments asking where all our players were staying.  So if you are saving money by staying elsewhere, others on your team are having to pay the tournament rate.  I didn't like it, seemed like a money grab to me, and it definitely made things more expensive.  On the other hand, some tournaments did get better group rates than an individual could get.

We are playing the 17u National Tournament at Xavier. I am hoping it will be a fun 4 day tournament. We have never played there so we will see some new country. Thanks for recommendations on where to stay. We will try and find something there. Our travel team has not provided a designated team hotel so I am going to book now. I have been left with some poor places to stay in the past when I didn't book early.

Are you playing in a Cincy Flames tournament?  Our teams usually stayed in the Blue Ash area, which is nice, and had easy highway access to game locations from northern Kentucky to Dayton.  There were, I think, several hotels on the tournament list there.  Newport, KY also has hotels and is a nice area.

Related to that, while I'm sympathetic to those who don't stay in the official hotels, I'd just note that most of these tournaments require a certain number of team members to stay in their hotels. One year I was the team hotel coordinator, and I did get called by some tournaments asking where all our players were staying.  So if you are saving money by staying elsewhere, others on your team are having to pay the tournament rate.  I didn't like it, seemed like a money grab to me, and it definitely made things more expensive.  On the other hand, some tournaments did get better group rates than an individual could get.

That was never a problem with most of the teams we played on.  Some of the parents were willing to pay $150 plus per night and then complain about how much baseball cost.  I've found as a coach that most tournaments ultimately don't care and if you complain about their hotel costs they won't push the issue.  If they give you a better rate, which they should since you are guaranteeing X number of rooms then I never minded staying in their hotels.  Normally if it was less than 2 hours we drove back and forth and traded out as to who was going each day.

@Triple J posted:

We are playing the 17u National Tournament at Xavier. I am hoping it will be a fun 4 day tournament. We have never played there so we will see some new country. Thanks for recommendations on where to stay. We will try and find something there. Our travel team has not provided a designated team hotel so I am going to book now. I have been left with some poor places to stay in the past when I didn't book early.

Opinion/advice alert!

There are a bunch of great schools to visit with a variety of college environments within an hour of Cincinnati. U of Cincinnati (city school with maybe 15 min from X with LOTS of students), Miami of Ohio (about 50 min away medium sized school in a rural college town with a beautiful campus and is considered a "Public Ivy"). Dayton Ohio has (about 50 min away) has Wright State (the best baseball school in the area) and U of Dayton, also Northern Kentucky U is maybe 15 min away across the river.

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@adbono posted:

@Triple J, I find it incredulous that you think you need to be concerned about offending someone because you made a comment about deer hunting. I’m not even a big hunter but it does serve a necessary purpose. And who cares if someone doesn’t like what you said?!? The world isn’t a popularity contest that is governed by likes and follows - no matter how much millennials want it to be

@adobo, you are my favorite!
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

@Triple J posted:

We are playing the 17u National Tournament at Xavier. I am hoping it will be a fun 4 day tournament. We have never played there so we will see some new country. Thanks for recommendations on where to stay. We will try and find something there. Our travel team has not provided a designated team hotel so I am going to book now. I have been left with some poor places to stay in the past when I didn't book early.

Be careful of surrounding neighborhoods, Xavier and UC, not the safest areas, although both campuses are beautiful.

@PitchingFan posted:

That was never a problem with most of the teams we played on.  Some of the parents were willing to pay $150 plus per night and then complain about how much baseball cost.  I've found as a coach that most tournaments ultimately don't care and if you complain about their hotel costs they won't push the issue.  If they give you a better rate, which they should since you are guaranteeing X number of rooms then I never minded staying in their hotels.  Normally if it was less than 2 hours we drove back and forth and traded out as to who was going each day.

Cincy Flames tournaments and hotels:  our experience has been this:  you are mandated to stay in the tournament affiliated hotels, using their code/link. Those rooms are MORE expensive than if booked through other means. The tournament director is pretty ruthless about it. He/his agents have been known to call hotels and verify who is staying there. You may become ineligible to play if it is discovered that you did not book through the tournament. Tournament directors often times get a significant cut from the hotel.

Yep, and called me to go through our roster person by person, to ask where everyone was staying.  I couldn't believe it.  Although, at that time, the tournament rate was better than you could get online.  But, TripleJ is going to a different organization's tournament, I don't know what their policy is.

At another tournament, they called me because they thought all our team had cancelled our official hotels.  Read through the roster, it was a different team.  I don't know what they were going to do to the team that did that.

@Consultant posted:

Every year for 17 years of Area Code games and tryouts, I organize hotels in California, USA, and for the Goodwill Series events in Australia, Japan, Korea and China for our players, Coaches and parents. Never a mark up, always a group rate passed to the families and pro scouts.

Bob

That would be a reference to the good old days. I’m afraid the PG organization is not so benevolent. Everything related to their events charges a premium and kicks back money to PG. All in the name of “we do it for the kids.”  

@Consultant posted:

Every year for 17 years of Area Code games and tryouts, I organize hotels in California, USA, and for the Goodwill Series events in Australia, Japan, Korea and China for our players, Coaches and parents. Never a mark up, always a group rate passed to the families and pro scouts.

Bob

That’s because you care more about the game and players than you do about making a buck!

Yep, and called me to go through our roster person by person, to ask where everyone was staying.  I couldn't believe it.  Although, at that time, the tournament rate was better than you could get online.  But, TripleJ is going to a different organization's tournament, I don't know what their policy is.

At another tournament, they called me because they thought all our team had cancelled our official hotels.  Read through the roster, it was a different team.  I don't know what they were going to do to the team that did that.

My guess is that team would lose eligibility to play and lose their entry fee. Was it Jay that called?

@RoadRunner posted:

Cincy Flames tournaments and hotels:  our experience has been this:  you are mandated to stay in the tournament affiliated hotels, using their code/link. Those rooms are MORE expensive than if booked through other means. The tournament director is pretty ruthless about it. He/his agents have been known to call hotels and verify who is staying there. You may become ineligible to play if it is discovered that you did not book through the tournament. Tournament directors often times get a significant cut from the hotel.

This is true. My son-in-law is GM at a hotel that routinely books blocks of rooms for tournaments/games (baseball only now, but used to do basketball and football until the following happened).

Wife and I were visiting (we're out of state) and they had some type of youth football tournament going on in the area that rooms were blocked at his hotel. He told me they were around $20 markup because of the director block. He got a phone call from his front desk early evening and she had a lobby full of irate parents. Most booked months earlier through the tournament. There was one parent that booked directly last minute at a lower rate. They wanted him to refund directly and give them all the price of the last minute parent. He told the front desk he couldn't, that the director had blocked the rooms at a specific price, that their phone calls should be directed to him. They wouldn't leave the lobby, so I rode with him to the hotel to try straighten it out. It was a madhouse. He explained everything to them, told them there was nothing he could do about it, and to please leave the lobby and take it up with the director. After about 15 minutes, he had to call the police because some were getting physically aggressive. Not a good situation. They just didn't understand he had absolutely nothing to do with it.

He made the decision to not block anything from a certain organization and director, who did both basketball and football. Baseball is a totally different org and director and there is rarely an issue.

The reason I post this is to inform. If someone gets a lower rate at the last minute and outside of the block, it's not the hotel's baby. Don't harass the hotel employees, they have zero to do with it, it's misplaced anger, and quite frankly ignorant if you can't rationally understand how the blocks work. If you have to be angry with someone, talk to the director who blocked the rooms at a specific price. It's done and it's yours at the price you agreed upon.

We never played there except one time when we were 9.  Never went back.  That is why most southern teams will not go north.  No gain.  You know how to handle that situation.  Tell him you won't come back.  I hear the people who say PG forces it but I never found that to be the case.  They say they do but never actually had them check on it.  Plus as I said we always had enough that wanted to stay at those motels so it was not a problem.  Many thought it was easier to deal with the tournament motels than it was to make their own.

Thank you for your kind words. IT reminded me of  '"ultimate" in Hotel room rental. Our 16 year old Santa Rosa Team enter the AAU National Tournament in St Louis, after our victory, I drove our rental van north to Waukegan, Il for the Continental World Series. Our 1st hotel was in a "bad" area and I inspected the Sheraton {no rooms} the favorite team from Cincinnati had reserved their rooms. [Pete Rose Jr and his mother Karolyn were members of this team].

Ask for the GM, she repeated "no rooms" but told me a story about a snowstorm on the OHIO turnpike. They rent their meeting rooms. IMMEDIATELY i call a bed rental company and ordered 14 rollaways. We now had our rooms at the Sheraton for cost of two meeting rooms.

After winning this tournament Karolyn wanted to form the "combination" of the two teams and travel west to California and "barnstorm". Great idea, however "cooler" heads prevailed. "It would have been a classic travel team"!!

Bob

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