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Hello everyone,

 

I play on a team where I highly disagree with the coach's philosophies regarding relief pitchers in the bullpen. Pretty much, EVERY TIME he feels that the pitcher that pitching during the game at that particular instant gets in any sort of jam, he asks one of us relievers to go warm up. Then, when they get out of the situation, they tell us to cool down and stop throwing. Then get hot again when the pitcher is in another jam, then cool down, and this cycle continues. We warm up/cool down 3 or 4 times sometimes before actually getting in the game. This particular reasoning simply cannot be healthy for one's arm.

 

I have tried to explain to them that this isn't a correct way to manage a bullpen. I understand pitchers can be unpredictable but I really don't think this is the way. When I pitch in the game, I want to pitch when my body is at the most optimal condition possible. Meaning I warm up and get hot, and I either get in the game immediately, or completely shut it down if they decide they don't need me in the game. My arm is simply not able to handle warming up/cooling down 3-4 times before actually getting in the game. I see no other teams do this, and I've never played on any other teams that do this, so I don't know why this is our team's philosophy. I am best when I can throw 1-2 innings max effort, close to the end of the game, like a true relief pitcher.

 

Is there any better way I can explain to them why exactly their bullpen philosophy is majorly flawed without being kicked off the team? Really, my arm cannot and will not be able to handle this kind of foolish method of playing. It's pretty much like a starting pitcher going to only pitch the 1st, 3rd, and 6th inning. I tried explaining it to them, but all they responded was that: you're a relief pitcher who needs to know your role on the team. You may be needed in the 2nd or the 9th, you never know. You always need to be ready. Pitchers can be unpredictable so we always need to have someone ready." I simply do not agree with this as this is really unhealthy for a pitchers arm if they keep asking us to do this. I understand my role as a RELIEF PITCHER, and would like to be treated as such, A RELIEF PITCHER.

 

Would any pitching knowledgable person share with me (if you agree with me), why their method is not good so I can share with them? I want to be as kind and respectful to them as possible, but I would like to get my point across! This is very frustrating to me!

 

Thanks!!

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First, it is very difficult to manage the bullpen even in pro baseball and these guys are running a club team so what do you expect?
Second, its not uncommon for a reliever to get up to warm up then sit down then get up again.  And very often they warm up and never get into the game.
I am not understanding your dilemma.  Are you the only reliever?  Do they do this just with you or with everyone else.  You seem to have lots of issues with this team so why not just finish up the season and be done with it.

It's tough managing a bullpen.  It also drives the starters nuts when they see the pen constantly getting up.  Here's my advice.

 

1)  Don't get warm, get loose.  You'll get seven pitches on the mound (plus any you get in the pen), so don't leave your game in the pen going near full intensity.  Play catch, do some form toss or drills, do some running between innings, do some light bands.  Whatever it takes so you're ready to ramp up to full speed at a moments notice.

 

2) See if you can work with the coach to have him tell you how many more batters he's willing to have the current pitcher face.  If the dugout can signal to the pen that the pitcher is on his final batter, you know when to start getting serious in your throws.

 

If you're role is a reliever, getting ready in a hurry is a skill you must develop.  It's not sitting along the outfield line eating seeds and waiting for someone to give you a 15 minute notice.

 

CVJ

Without meaning to sound harsh... Don't worry about how the pen is managed.  Or how the team, the lineup, the staff, or the game is managed either.  Be a player...  focus on producing at whatever role you've been assigned. You have a hard time getting "warm" and then sitting and then getting warm again 3-4 times a game? Good luck pitching 3-4 innings in a game... You'll get extremely warm competing against hitters and then will sit between innings, with luck for long periods of time sometimes.  I know it's not exactly the same thing as warming up and sitting in the pen repeatedly, but close enough.  It's up to you to know your arm, know your coaches, and understand the game situation so that you can manage yourself each time you're asked to get up in the pen.  Where is the other team in their lineup, how many outs, how many on, how many pitches have been thrown?  As CVJ mentioned, getting loose doesn't mean leaving your best stuff in the pen. That's on you to manage. And to respectfully disagree with CVJ, I wouldn't ask the coach much of anything.  He'll manage the game... Your job is to be ready when called upon. Relief situations are often critical times in a ball game, especially HS games. Not many coaches are going to sit and discuss their contingency thinking in the heat of the moment with a player. They're coaching on the fly using their experience and instincts. When he points to you, just go get em. 

For anyone's info this player is a pitcher on a college club team. His coaches are players his age.  Most likely they have no clue how to run a pen, obviously.

It is up to the player to find his own method to be and remain ready. Once you get past high school you have to act like a big boy and figure it out, no matter where u are playing.
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Aha. I didn't realize this was club ball situation, thought it was HS.  So I would have worded things a little differently, but still the same opinion from me.  Coach or Player-Coach(s) may or may not know what he's doing, but they're running the game. Player needs to put his focus on producing at his role. Worry about what you can control, not what you can't. 

Soylent,

 

I would say it depends upon the coach for what you request and how you do it.  Always avoid confrontation and don't come off as needy.  My son has never been on a team where the coach hasn't signaled "last batter" so perhaps this common practice is not as common as I think it is.

 

Agree that it is on the player to get ready on his own.  My son's eyes were opened when he arrived at college and found out what coaches expected and tolerated. 

 

CVJ

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