Coach rating service

That would be absolutely great. I suggest a 20 to 80 scoring system. including the "good face" test. any thoughts on how well this would go over, i have a real good idea

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is there a rating system for college coaches

W-L.

The other teams get to vote.

Sounds like a good idea but you have to realize how subjective those scores would be based on how much the kid played.

You have to do your research as a parent into any program your son is considering. Print up several years of rosters and figure out what player retention has been. Then try to talk to parents/players that have played for those coaches. Take what they say with a grain of salt if their son was a bench warmer ( remember our rose colored glasses).

I will be te 1st to say my son's college coaches have been amazing. They have been honest and have so much integrity. They have helped make him in to a better person. They are not in a top conference and lose their share of games( they win their share too) but they are exemplary gentlemen that have enriched our lives.

I realize it can be difficult to do face to face research but it can be done. This website is a great way to contact parents of players on teams all over the US.

Take a look at rate my professor for ideas. Not sure if there would be much interest since it is such a narrow target market.

Interesting.

What would the rating be based upon?

For me the coaches record is what speaks for him. I would rather have my son play for a tough son of a gun who runs their program like boot camp and who doesn't pull any punches, knows how to motivate regardless of what methods he uses and when to back down. And lets players figure it out for themselves. I want a coach who pushes and pushes beyond the limit and expects 100% from the player whether he is a starter or a bench guy.

And plays the best guys to win games.

That guy gets an 80 from me.

FWIW, it's not a coincidence that you will find that most college players are drafted from the top 50 programs in the country. That's because these guys are tough cookies, they have to be, and I think that many parents would be shocked to know that most of these guys are really much different than when they were recruiting the player.

I am a strong believer that it is what it is, and I understand that we all see things differently and have different expectations. I would never allow son to choose a guy who promises positions to one who doesn't, but then again in the end it is NOT my decision, it's only my responsibility to help to guide son to make the right choice based upon what is right for him.

Players and parents need to accept the fact that college baseball is a big business and these guys jobs are based upon their record and they will play who they feel will give them the best chance to win. It should not be any other way.

All of us that comment that the coach wasn't what the player was expecting, I would imagine that coaches may feel the same way about the players they recruit.


JMO.

I have not explored this site but I did come across it.

Coach Grader

I typed in my son's college HC and he came up with a rating. He had an A+ rating. Not surprised.
The survey answered my questions as to what they should be rated on.
Knowledge of sport, technical training, game strategy, communication skills, honesty, cares for athletes well being, passion, organizational skills, dedication to program, fairness in playing tine, open ness to student athletes, quality of practices.

Pretty good stuff.

I am hoping that if people use this they do as a guide as opinions vary, depending upon the athletes experience.

I typed in some others for curiosity that did not come up rated.

you only evaluate your sons coach--how can you rate any others thus all ratings will be biased

I think this is a great question, and in fact, I recently asked MN-Mom what her thoughts were about starting a forum with a similar title.

Obviously, such a forum would only be as helpful as the honest information provided, and it would be open to a complaints from players and parents who are disappointed in playing time.

However, one of the reasons I raised the idea with her is that I've heard some stories lately of really bad coaches. Coaches who want players to continue playing through injury even though the player can barely bend over to field a ball or block the plate. Or coaches whose players have had more injuries from incorrect strength and conditioning workouts than from on-the-field injuries.

I'm not sure it could be done fairly and without bias, but think it's something to think about.

Rating coaches is subjective. The best coach for one player may be the worst for another. Some players need screamers on their tails. Other players shut down with this kind of treatment.

When my son was younger he watched a SportsCenter clip of Bob Knight in the face of a Texas Tech player. He didn't know who Knight was. My son wanted to know what the fuss was. In my son's view the player disrepected the coach by not looking him in the eyes while being scolded.

Does everyone else have the same impression of Knight? I'm not asking for responses. I'm painting a point of view. My son was taught always look adults in the eyes when they are talking.

One coach may be great at getting his hitters drafted. But you may not want your pitching son any where near him.

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Originally posted by shortnquick:
I have not explored this site but I did come across it.

Coach Grader

Hi Shortnquick. Thank you for finding this and sharing with the group. It appears to have the right areas to grade and it is directed at the players to rate.

Rick at Informed, I'm sure playing time would be top of the list, but how a coach relates to the player is also very important. Do they even accept player feedback or dismiss it altogether. Do they run a disciplined program? Believe it or not, even ballplayers need to feel valued, whether they are on the bench or not.

Good idea to have this as part on HSBBWeb's information section. We just need to get the word out. To me turnover percentage would be valuable, even if the players that left were not surveyed.

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Originally posted by Rick at Informed Athlete:
I think this is a great question, and in fact, I recently asked MN-Mom what her thoughts were about starting a forum with a similar title.

Obviously, such a forum would only be as helpful as the honest information provided, and it would be open to a complaints from players and parents who are disappointed in playing time.

However, one of the reasons I raised the idea with her is that I've heard some stories lately of really bad coaches. Coaches who want players to continue playing through injury even though the player can barely bend over to field a ball or block the plate. Or coaches whose players have had more injuries from incorrect strength and conditioning workouts than from on-the-field injuries.

I'm not sure it could be done fairly and without bias, but think it's something to think about.

All someone has to do is come and ask about a program and the coaching staff and it can be answered in a pm. It's done all of the time.

I agree with RJM. It is all subjective. Example, how one would know that the player properly did the strength and conditioning that was required?

Only the player knows how hurt he is and he must learn to say NO! In most programs the strength and conditiong is not left up to the coach.

Just like it is improper to get into discussing players, it's also the same for discussing coaches, which could easily become character assassination and open up liability to the site, maybe.

Just like anything in life there is good and bad, what is good for one player may not be good for another. Do your homework.


JMO.

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Originally posted by TPM:

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Originally posted by Rick at Informed Athlete:
I think this is a great question, and in fact, I recently asked MN-Mom what her thoughts were about starting a forum with a similar title.

Obviously, such a forum would only be as helpful as the honest information provided, and it would be open to a complaints from players and parents who are disappointed in playing time.

However, one of the reasons I raised the idea with her is that I've heard some stories lately of really bad coaches. Coaches who want players to continue playing through injury even though the player can barely bend over to field a ball or block the plate. Or coaches whose players have had more injuries from incorrect strength and conditioning workouts than from on-the-field injuries.

I'm not sure it could be done fairly and without bias, but think it's something to think about.

All someone has to do is come and ask about a program and the coaching staff and it can be answered in a pm. It's done all of the time.

I agree with RJM. It is all subjective. Example, how one would know that the player properly did the strength and conditioning that was required?

Only the player knows how hurt he is and he must learn to say NO! In most programs the strength and conditiong is not left up to the coach.

Just like it is improper to get into discussing players, it's also the same for discussing coaches, which could easily become character assassination and open up liability to the site, maybe.

Just like anything in life there is good and bad, what is good for one player may not be good for another. Do your homework.


JMO.

Lets be more general, no actual comments should be posted, just a ratings based on unbiased numbers.

Number one is retention of recruited players.
Staff turnover would be something else factual.

To appease the "coaches are innocent" crowd.

I guess we, as parents, all have in our heads what kind of coach we want our sons to play for, but 'that coach' might not always be the coach our son wants to play for. And, who has to deal with him every day? Not me.