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Got back the other day from watching the final two fall world series games of my soph son's team. Had the opportunity to watch a football game as well (vs ND no less) and spend time there with not only my son but my nephew who is a senior cadet and member of the Air Force Jump team. His Wings of Blue were invited to jump into stadium before football game. My nephew and my son are very close having grown up a mile apart and played travel baseball together growing up.

Like those parents who have made the fall trek and reported here, you come home full of thoughts to fill a book. Here are a couple of (lengthy, sorry)observations that could be helpful for those going through the recruiting process and going off to school for their freshman year.

My first thought reviewing the weekend is what a wonderful group of team mates and friends my son has associated himself with. We tailgated with a bunch of his team mates and they are the nicest group of kids you would ever want to meet. Many of them compete for playing time with my son but you would never know it. Very supportive of each other, friendly, polite and simply a great group of young men. One friend came out to breakfeast with us and everything was "no sir, yes sir." For those from the south that may be common but being from Chicago it was very nice to hear. I mentioned to my son that you are making many friends for life (and business contacts) and that I couldnt be happier with the choices he's made. (A note to parents going through recruiting process, make note of the kids on the current team you're looking at. Imo, it matters what type of kids your son will be around for a few years, aside from their talent level.)

On a personal note, last fall my son struggled adjusting to high level college pitching. When I visited him then (I called it a mission of mercy to my wife) I was there to listen and support him as he went through the adjustment. Frankly as a parent during that season, I learned a lot from a note on this site from Rob Kremer who wrote a wonderful post about freshman struggles. He basically said that at that age, facing hardships and working through them should be seen as a blessing not a curse. You should embrace them for they will teach a lot to your son (and his parents). For me, wiser words were never spoken.

For book lovers, I am reading True Measure of a Man, which discusses how to face these difficult times we live in. Similar perspectives.

Getting back to baseball, this fall Ive never seen my son happier and more upbeat. He was recruited as a ss and still competing for that spot but in addition this fall he has opened a lot of eyes with his pitching. I mentioned to him before I left that there are many life lessons from last year that he should always remember.

Finally a note on my nephew at the Air Force Academy. He too was recruited to play baseball there but was unceremoniously dumped in the fall of his freshman year. Devasted, he thought about leaving the academy but stuck around and quickly discovered the Wings of Blue sky diving team. He put the same hard work and dedication into that new challenge that he had for baseball for many years and made the team. Fast forward a couple of years and he loves what he's doing and his team mates on the squad probably far more than had he stuck on the baseball team for four years. He has been accepted into flight school next year and ready for that new challenge.

One lesson on that front is even though baseball ends for everyone, it doesn't mean that the larger life lessons learned from it have to end too.

Ps. We were at the football stadium Friday night to watch nephews practice jump. Athletic Dept was all there, even local media. Problem was the airplane they used had instruments down including the one measuring outside wind speed. They jumped from 5,000 feet thinking wind was ok. It wasn't. They all landed miles away from field. Actually quite dangerous. At night they landed on the streets, in parking lots, everywhere, many barely missing power lines. One guy landed in the ghetto and some guy came up to him and asked, "you come from the sky?", "yes bro I did", "OK, for a moment I thought I was tripping."

The Airforce guys tailgated with us too along with the baseball guys. A weekend I'll never forget.
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First I want to acknowledge igball's post. How inspiring. College should be much more than baseball, but it is especially true for the kids playing at any of the service academies.

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http://www.trinitytigers.com/s...11_Fall_World_Series

Tigers Prepare for Fall World Series Battle
San Antonio, TX- The Tigers will wrap-up their competitive fall season with the annual Maroon-White Fall World Series, starting Thursday, November 9th. The showdown will pit the Tigers against one another in a two team, best-of-five series to determine who has off-season "bragging rights".

The Maroon Squad is led by 2-time All-West Region Outfielder Nick Pappas (Sr., Los Angeles, Ca/Loyola) and Utility Superstar Jonathan Hall (Jr., Kenilworth, IL/New Trier). The Maroon Teams pitching staff is highlighted by Junior LHP Ryan Lucero (Aurora, CO/Grandview) and RHP Franklin Bay (Jr., Houston, TX/Strake Jesuit). Freshman Zack Speer (Houston, TX/Episcopal) will also be starting for the Maroon Team, making his FWS debut for the Tigers.

The White Team is anchored up the middle by SCAC Freshman of the Year Christian Muscarello (So., Tucson, AZ/Catalina Foothills), as well as 2B Nick Iacovella (So., Tampa, FL/Jesuit). White will also feature OF newcomers Pat Hirschberg (So., Parker, CO/Chaparral HS/ University of Nebraska) and Nick Griffith (Fr., Ventura, CA/Ventura). On the mound, the White Squad will be highlighted by the reigning SCAC Pitcher of the Year, Ben Klimesh (Sr., Willamette, IL/New Trier) as well as RHP Michael Bentz (Jr., Houston, TX/Memorial).

First pitch of the weekend will be 4pm on Thursday, followed by 5pm Friday, a Doubleheader Saturday starting at 2pm, and concluding Sunday at 1pm. Fans are welcome to come to the games and admission is free.

ROSTERS:

MAROON:

Name Class State WHITE: Class State

C-Kelly Woodruff Jr. GA C- Chris Bianchi SO CA

C-Beau Attyah So. CA C-Pat Frasier Jr. TX

1B-Jon Hall Jr. IL 1B- Will Donnas Jr. TX

2B-Kevin Clements Jr. CA 2B- Nick Iacovella So. FL

SS-Andres Leyva Fr. CA SS-Christian Muscarello So. AZ.

3B-Kevin Franke Jr. CA 3B-Jules Cronk So. OK

OF-Nick Pappas Sr. IL OF- Pat Hirschberg So. CO

OF-Ryan Schweers So. TX OF-Nick Griffith Fr. CA

OF-Dom Robusto Sr. CA OF-Shane Daykin Fr. MI

UTIL-Tim Stanton Sr. WA UTIL-George Geiger Fr. DC

STARTING PITCHERS:

MAROON: WHITE:

RHP Franklin Bay Jr. TX RHP Michael Bentz Jr. TX

RHP Tanner Barron Jr. TX RHP Ben Klimesh Sr. IL

LHP Ryan Lucero Jr. CO LHP Matt Abrahams So. TX

RHP Zack Speer Fr. TX RHP Nick Griffith Fr. CA

RHP Carter Lauck So. TX LHP Chris Garagiola Fr. AZ

RHP Weston Haaf Sr. TX RHP William Wells So. TX

RHP Brandon Spriggs Sr. TX RHP Alex Herz Jr. CO





PITCHING SCHEDULE:



Game 1: Thursday, November 10, 2011. 4pm

Bay vs. Bentz



Game 2: Friday, November 11, 2011. 5pm Start

Klimesh vs. Barron



Game 3/4: Saturday, November 12, 2011. 2pm start (Doubleheader)

Lucero v Abrahams

Griffith v Speer



Game 5: Sunday, November 13, 2011. 1pm start.

Lauck vs. Garagiola
Our "little school" annual Red vs. Blue World Series concluded last night with PrimeJr's team taking the series 3-1.

I think PrimeJr. will remember it well, for sure his Dad will, as his last Fall AB was a "Game and Series winning Grand Slam!"

I couldn't have scripted his Fall any better than it played out and he really needed to "show well" as he is fighting for playing time and that coveted starting job. I'm not sure if any starting jobs were actually won or lost this fall, but certainly I hope he has earned an opportunity to compete next Spring when the Coaching staff will likely make their final line-up decisions before starting conference play.

But, I can't think about that now. As for today, baseball life in our house is good!
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Wow! What a way to end the fall practice season, and you were able to be there! Life is good!


At my sons program they do not do a series like some others here have posted. We just scrimmage...

Thursday was Scout Day, and I was able to attend that. This will be the last one of those, now that my guy is a senior. They played a 5 inning scrimmage which will be the last one of those I see too!

Last two scrimmages are Monday and Tuesday then they are on to individual non mandatory (mandatory) practicing.

I did get to see something fun, although nothing compares with a Grand Slam, like Prime Jr., but my son ran a 6.6 60 which took everyone by surprise! So it was a great day, and evening at Outback for a celebratory steak dinner!

How many days 'till February 4th?
Soph son had his end of the fall season meeting with the HC at his AZ JC wood-bat league school. HC told him that he saw him as his starting SS and hitting 1 or 2 in the lineup. He was pretty excited about that! (Dad was too!) Lots of validation for the hard work he's put in from the rehab he has had to do. Working his way back from a dislocated kneecap suffered his senior yr of HS and some overuse of his throwing arm as a result of the frustration he felt last year at having to medically redshirt. Proof will be in the pudding now as spring draws closer. Long toss/winter drills and workouts start this week so more work to do but this far its going pretty well.
Son and a team mate got to pick teams and line ups for the final 2 scrimmages of the Fall. We lost the first game and won the second, but failed to score the most runs, so my son's team is responsible for field maintenance for the next two weeks!

Soon it will be spring, which is February in Florida, lol! I have not seen a schedule posted yet, but first game should be around February 3rd.

The last collegiate season is fast approaching...I am not ready for this to be over, yet I can barely wait for it to start...
Son texted today.Was chosen as one of the captians to choose the teams for the fall world series.Being a senior this was special for him.Two graduate fifth year seniors chose one team, and son and another senior,both who will graduate in spring chose the other.My son has enjoyed being looked upon as a leader by his coach.This has come after years of hard work in and out of the classroom, and the coach is honoring the players who have worked hard.As a parent thats all I can ask for.

Its not what you do when someone is looking but what you do when no one is watching.
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As a Freshman's parent, I am just happy to see my son's name on the spring roster!

Am I the only one who checks just about daily to make sure it is still/really there?

BTW... he had a really good fall and looks to have a great shot at being the everyday guy at first base at his JUCO.

Can't wait for the season to start up!
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As a Freshman's parent, I am just happy to see my son's name on the spring roster!

Am I the only one who checks just about daily to make sure it is still/really there?

BTW... he had a really good fall and looks to have a great shot at being the everyday guy at first base at his JUCO.

Can't wait for the season to start up!



No, you are by no means the only Freshman parent doing that. We all did! Congrats for you and your son as you hopefully have a bunch of baseball left to watch. I hope he and the family have an enjoyable season! I'm guessing it's a Ga. JUCO?
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Originally posted by floridafan:
Wow! What a way to end the fall practice season, and you were able to be there! Life is good!


At my sons program they do not do a series like some others here have posted. We just scrimmage...

Thursday was Scout Day, and I was able to attend that. This will be the last one of those, now that my guy is a senior. They played a 5 inning scrimmage which will be the last one of those I see too!

Last two scrimmages are Monday and Tuesday then they are on to individual non mandatory (mandatory) practicing.

I did get to see something fun, although nothing compares with a Grand Slam, like Prime Jr., but my son ran a 6.6 60 which took everyone by surprise! So it was a great day, and evening at Outback for a celebratory steak dinner!

How many days 'till February 4th?


Floridafan, 6.6 60! wow, that Fla sunshine, vitamin
E stuff must be doing it's magic as that is fast!
I followed your son's season last year as we have ties there, he is really good!

Enjoy your coming year and I hope he gets an opportunity to continue if that's his wish!!!!
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My son was picked by the captains to play second base in their world series. His team ended up winning the series. Son got to play every inning at second base. My wife and I got to see some of the last game and saw him get a base hit up the middle that scored a run. It was his 2nd RBI of the game. He also made some good plays at second. We couldn't believe how much stronger he looked and how his swing has improved. The swing looks shorter or more efficient. The official fall practicing is finished but the running, lifting, and hitting continue. He'll finally be back home for Thanksgiving next week.
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Originally posted by Prime9:
Floridafan, 6.6 60! wow, that Fla sunshine, vitamin
E stuff must be doing it's magic as that is fast!
I followed your son's season last year as we have ties there, he is really good!

Enjoy your coming year and I hope he gets an opportunity to continue if that's his wish!!!!


I am a witness to that 6.6 for FF son, he can fly. My fat finger on the blackberry stop watch clocked the same thing as what the official timer shared with us.

Big boy 17 hustled his way against the 6'5" first baseman and I had him at 7.1, but the official timer told us it was just over 7.0 - he'll take it. Usually the scouts just turn the other way or catch up on their emails when the catchers run anyway.

We are a little melancholy as 17 turns into his junior season as a college baseball player, but enjoying every...stinking...minute. Therefore, I am satisfied to be very patient for Feb 4 to get here.

Great news EaglesDad!! It will be great to have him home, I am sure.

I hope everyone had a very productive, safe and enjoyable fall season!!
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My son's first College Fall Season was filled with plenty of ups and downs. They completed their Fall Series this afternoon, and his squad took 2 of 3 games to win the series, and more importantly, he got Dad's $25.00 back for the team meal...LOL. Okay, I let him keep the money!

Bsbl-son is a 2-way player (so far?). He had a tremendous start to the fall with his bat and on the bump. Through the first four weeks he was hitting over .400 and doing a great job on the mound. Two weeks ago, I was watching his scrimmage and noticed that his velocity was down significantly. He had been told to expect some decrease in velocity as they competed in the Fall due to fatigue. However, I had noticed that he was massaging his elbow/triceps on the On Deck circle prior to his AB's and I knew something wasn't right. The next day he was diagnosed with Tricep Tendinitis, and ordered to shut it down for a couple weeks. Of course, there was only two weeks left in the Fall. Fortunately, they allowed him to DH in the scimmages...but he went into a terrible slump and didn't feel comfortable as a DH. I don't know what his numbers were like in the Final two weeks, but it wasn't pretty. I hope the coaching staff considers his first four weeks, but who really knows? They're back to individual workouts until January rolls around. In the meantime, the players will have individual meetings with the coaching staff in the near future and will get an idea of what their roles will be prior to the season.

BOF wrote a great post regarding the numbers game, and it doesn't stop with recruiting. My son is a P/OF trying to win playing time on a top 25 team that returned eleven of their fifteen pitchers, and he's fighting with seven other players for one of the two open spots in the outfield. I look at things with an open mind, but I'm a realist. It's going to be tough sledding, but if he's healthy, he will contribute. In what capacity??? I guess we'll find out in a few months.

Good luck to all the players as they wrap up their Fall Season and prepare for the Spring. I enjoy reading all of the updates, and look forward to reading more when February rolls around and the 2012 season is underway.
bsbl247,

I know exactly how you feel with the ups and downs of hitting! My son started off batting about .550 for the first 7 games or so and I thought, it can't be this easy! And sure enough it wasn't, as the law of averages and the gods of baseball statistics brought him down to the mid .300's by Fall's end. Hope your sons's arm is doing better with some rest and I guess we need to realize, our sons will have to be fighting off multiple competitors for their jobs for the rest of their baseball lives no matter how long they last.
Try to enjoy the process and not just the results.

Harder to do than most think.

Some food for thought, I bet most of us know our sons fall stats!!

This probably means they are discusssing their scrimmages with you to some degree.Try hard to notpass on any of your own anxieties.

Try to talk about other things.The baseball dance has been going on since they were five and many of us have spent weekends, summers.holidays wrapped around this game.

My sons fall series just began today.We are here.His team won, he was happy as he drafted it with another teammate.
This is his last college fall, maybe his last year of baseball.

We are talking,about other things and its hard when all they have done is school and baseball for so long.Tonight we spent time with him and some teammates.Talking about internships, masters degrees, traveling, life after baseball.It was a fun night.

Try to enjoy the process.Its hard I know.But try.Your sons feel your anxiousness,tehy really do.
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Originally posted by fanofgame:
Try to enjoy the process and not just the results.

Harder to do than most think.

Some food for thought, I bet most of us know our sons fall stats!!

This probably means they are discusssing their scrimmages with you to some degree.Try hard to notpass on any of your own anxieties.

Try to talk about other things.The baseball dance has been going on since they were five and many of us have spent weekends, summers.holidays wrapped around this game.

My sons fall series just began today.We are here.His team won, he was happy as he drafted it with another teammate.
This is his last college fall, maybe his last year of baseball.

We are talking,about other things and its hard when all they have done is school and baseball for so long.Tonight we spent time with him and some teammates.Talking about internships, masters degrees, traveling, life after baseball.It was a fun night.

Try to enjoy the process.Its hard I know.But try.Your sons feel your anxiousness,tehy really do.


Your point is so true and a very important one at that!!

I didn't see it right away and there is no doubt our desire to continue to grab every nugget concerning what is happening on the baseball field (because to this point, we knew everything) does convey some pressure and anxiety to them.

Discovering, and practicing that it's best to ask about EVERYTHING else and let them discuss baseball if they want, was the most difficult learning for me!

I found out PrimeJr. discovered going into his Sophomore year that he just needed to play the game and not "think or worry" about what he can't control. He too, struggled with the transition his Freshman year. That focus on the game versus results or what he cant control, helped him tremendously. A big part of that transition was Dad not seeming so interested in every days results. I found that he would call or text when there was something "really good" that he was excited about or wanted me to know.

So, finally I'm doing what I have always told him is best to practice in life; "listen twice as much as you speak."

Thanks for sharing that nugget Fan-of-the-game, wish you had gotten to me early last year!!

Cleveland Dad, just in case I haven't said something before; Thanks for all you contribute to this site!
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Fan is so right! Enjoy it all because it goes soooooo fast. Their college experience is so much more than just baseball but if you don't live close by and get to see your son frequently I think we too often just focus on the baseball.

College baseball, like real life, is full of highs and lows and trying to stay even-keeled through it all is the key to success. I am so impressed by all the college student-athletes and how they manage such busy schedules. Once they enter the workforce they will be well prepared after the rigors of college athletics.

And remember they start fresh in the spring and has been said here many times "he who hits will play"!
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A big part of that transition was Dad not seeming so interested in every days results. I found that he would call or text when there was something "really good" that he was excited about or wanted me to know.



yep!! Its hard.But they are trying to please their coaches, keep up in the classroom,working out,its a lot esp.for a frosh.

I know many of these boys are in fine academic schools and the demands are tough.

We are all here on this site to support one another.

Some rest over the break and many of them will come back with vigor and be playing well.

And as CaBB said hitters play.
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