Connie Mack regional

Are any brackets published on the web for the regionals at Broken Arrow?

Brackets will be drawn Tuesday the 27th at 7:00 pm.

Here are the teams:

Dallas Knights White
Dallas Yankees
Dallas Patriots 18
Dallas Mustangs Carpenter
Arlington A's Acton
Columbia Angels
Houston Heat Silver
South Texas Sliders 17
Lubbock Hubbers
Missouri Sluggers
Kansas City Sluggers
Broken Arrow OK Tigers
Berryhill OK Chieftans
Bill Hood LA Broncos
Cherry Creek CO Bruins
Albuquerque Heat

The game sites are:

Broken Arrow HS
Lincoln Christian HS

Anyone know what tourney the Lubbock Hubbers won to qualify?
Any posters know any players that make up their roster? Name & school?

Former Dallas Knight Evan Gerald from Amarillo Tascosa plays for the Hubbers.

Hubbers won the tournament in Round Rock this weekend - don't know the exact name but they played at a high school field in Georgetown.
Don't know all the players but here's a few:
Miles Morgan -Lubbock Coronado
Darren Lawless - Levelland
Chad Farr - Levelland
Hector Limon - Lubbock Estacado
AJ Ramos - Lubbock Estacado
Josh Wilson - Midland
JW Wilson - Midland
Jason Siefield - Clovis, NM
couple of kids from Lubbock Christian High School and a couple from Lubbock High

From what city or cities are the South Texas Sliders 17? If possible a roster.

Thanks KnightCoach & bballmom2,

I have watched most of these Hubbers players these past few years. My son has grown up competing with or against Big E (Evan Gerald). Son has hit & pitched against those Lubbock Estacado, Coronado & Midland players listed during pre-season.

I hope these players do well. Sorry KnightCoach, but I have to root for our West Texas & South Plains area players.

Sliders Roster:

1 Mike Brzezinski......C.....SA O'Connor..05
2 Bryan Minzenmeyer...IF.....La Grange....05
3 Jake Petro...........P.....SA Churchill.05
4 Pepe Mancha........IF/P....Blanco.......05
10 Bradley Suttle....IF/P....Boerne.......05
11 Kyle Thebeau......P/OF....CC Carroll...05
12 Chip Nance..........P.....CC Calallen..05
14 James Keithley.....IF.....SA Reagan....05
19 Seth Hammock......UT/P....CC Carroll...05
20 Tyler Mickits.....OF/P....Greg-Port....05
22 Casey Allen......P/IF/C...Greg-Port....05
24 Mike Meaden.......OF/P....Alamo Height.05
25 Taylor Spalla.....1B/OF...Boerne.......05
26 Nathaniel Ramirez..P/IF...SA Reagan....05
27 Joe Pawelek.........C.....Smith Valley.05
44 Anthony Vasquez....P/OF...SA Reagan....05

Pop,

It's OK to cheer for your locals. I root for the ones I know too (just not against my team, hehe). I talked with Evan the night before their championship game and wished him luck. I was hoping we would get to see each other once more before he goes off to A&M.

By the way... there will be two Blacksox in the tourney.

Chris Hougin.....Dallas Patriots
Heath Taylor.....Dallas Knights

Another west Texas player:

Tyler Haile......Dallas Yankees

Can teams pick up players from any team or only other connie mac teams that have been eliminated?

is there a website that we can look at that that will post results from the tourny? or are there any websters out there who would post results for us??

Teams may only pick up players from other Connie Mack teams who have been eliminated.

I will post tourney results on my website.

Hope the rain holds off.

thanks KC...appreciate you doing that

Go Hubbers!

The Houston Heat website is keeping an updated bracket at www.houstonheat.com

Thanks for the link!

Hubbers won their first two games yesterday with Kurt Pessa throwing a no hitter!
Go Hubbers!

The A.A.B.C. 18U regional Qualifying Tournament Wed., July 28th at Broken Arrow High School and at Lincoln Christian.

FIRST DAY RESULTS:

Arlington A's 2 Lubbock Hubbers 3
Dallas Knights 4 Albequrque Heat 11
Dallas Patriots 8 Kansas Sluggers 6
S. Texas Sliders 14 Broken Arrow Tigers 12
Lubbock Hubbers 6 Albequrque Heat 1
Dallas Patriots vs S. TexasSliders POSTPONED RAIN

Dallas Mustangs 1 Cherry Creek 0
Dallas Yankees 2 Bill Hood 0
Houston Heat 4 Missouri Sluggers 0
Columbia Angels 10 Berryhill 0
Dallas Yankees 5 Dallas Mustangs 2

Houston Heat vs Columbia Angels SUSPENDED RAIN

Play will resume at 8:00am Friday.

just in from broken spoke, ok.

patriots over the s.tx. sliders in 11 innings.
no details other than hunter harris came in for
pats & shut out the sliders to take it into
extra innings.
moon

Thanks for the update Moon. Son plays for the KC Sluggers 18's if you have any info on them let me know.

Mobunts

Knights 7
A's 6

11 innings


Wow they are way behind

Was this the same Arlington A's team that played in Burkburnett a couple of weeks ago in the Regional Qualifier?

Who pitched tonight for the Knights?

Yes that is the same team. Pretty solid group. Randall started for the Knights, I think they said he went 6 1/3, gave up four or five hits but one was a Homerun. I think Sisk got a Homerun in the top of the 11th to win it.

Coons, It was the same A's as the qualifier.

Linebaugh started. Pitched into 7th. Renfro relieved for 2 hitters. Towns relieved and worked out of a bases loaded, one out situation. A's had winning run on 2nd or 3rd with less than 2 outs five times. 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th. Linebaugh worked out of the 6th and Towns worked out of each jam thereafter. Brian Sisk homered in the top of the 11th. Langford pithced the bottom of the 11th for the save.

Mobunts, Sluggers (H) up 6-2 bottom of 4th over Broken Arrow HS (V)

KnightCoach,

Thanks for taking a look,the kid that was catching that game is my son.

Thanks again
updates and comments welcome.

Thanks Coach. That A's team has given the Knights a couple of good games. Your game with them went 9 innings previously I believe. Unfortunately, having to go extra innings in a tournament like this makes it tough on the pitching.

Good Luck.

what time do the Knights play today?

If the information that I got from one of the parents at the tournament is correct,KC Sluggers vs. Knights at noon today???

Knights 9
Sluggers 2


Score was tied 2-2 going into the top of the 7th. Knights make a little noise with the sticks and get the win. I believe Langford was the winning pitcher.

Congratulation to the Knights,sounds like it will be a long bus ride home for the Sluggers.

update from a pal in broken spoke:

pats over hubbers
col. angels over d-bat yanks

2 undefeated left; pats, columbus angels
were to play right now but church school
wants them off field by 6pm. my pal sez
it's a c.f. and now they gotta go back to
broken spoke to play at 8:30pm.

sez they are way behind.

m00n

Just in my hotel room. I pitch for the Cherry Creek CO team. Played two games today already, and due to play again at midnight.

Cherry Creek Bruins 4
Bill Hood (Louisiana) Broncos 1

Cherry Creek Bruins 12
Missouri Sluggers 3

We play the South Texas Sliders at midnight tonight. I'm pretty sure that the Dallas Mustangs just defeated the Houston Heat 5-1 earlier tonight.

Brice Bisel

Keep us posted, Okie.

Mustangs have caught fire at the right time and eliminated the Houston Heat, Dallas Knights and Dallas Patriots in consecutive games.

Only Dallas team left along with Columbia Angels, S Texas Sliders and Lubbock Hubbers.

From the Connie Mack Southern Plains Regional, the Columbia Angels (4-0) will face the South Texas Sliders (3-1), at 10:30am, this morning,

Saturday evening scores....

Angels 5 - Dallas Patriots 2
WR: McLemore (2H,0ER,11K)

Matt Carpenter hit a 3-run blast to lead the Angels, while Mike Heard pitched in with a double.

The Heat was eliminated 5-1, Saturday evening. The Dallas Patriots were eliminated this morning, by the Dallas Mustangs.

The remaining four teams:
Columbia Angels (4-0)
S. Texas Sliders (3-1)
Dallas Mustangs (3-1)
Lubbock Hubbers (3-1)

where is Columbia? Missouri, I'm assuming? just curious...

GO HUBBERS! GO HUBBERS!

West Columbia Texas. However, it's mostly a Houston Area Team.

Columbia Angels

Columbia Angels 7 - South Texas Sliders 0
WP: Joel Harris

Spencer Jackson launches a grand slam homerun, to lead the Angels (5-0) to another win.

The Dallas Mustangs get a bye, so the Angels will now face the Lubbock Hubbers (3-1). Eventhough the Mustangs have a loss, the weird rule of drawing for a bye, after each round, puts the Angels in a strange predicament. Connie Mack rules prohibit a team from playing four games in one day. If the Angels beat the Hubbers, but lose to the Mustangs, the Mustanges would advance to Farmington, based on runs allowed.

If the Angels lose to the Hubbers, they get a bye, while the Hubbers face the Mustangs, for the right to play in the Championship Game.

Just heard form the tourney director in BA that the Hubbers won the tourney. Didn't get teh score thougn.

The Hubbers won the egional tournament and will now head to Farmington, for the World Series. The after going (5-0) to start the tourney, the Columbia Angels lost twice to the Lubbock Hubbers.

Congratulations to the Lubbock Hubbers.

Any posters know which Hubbers' pitchers earned the wins? Who took the lone loss?

OK, I'll bite! What the heck is a "Hubber"? Congrats! It is not an easy regional. Have fun!

The Hubbers beat the Angels 8-1 in the championship game and they deserve it since they had to play three games in a row to win it all.

Aside from this being a poorly run AABC event, I saw for the first time in my life a team (organization) make a mockery of baseball. The Angels had all of the momentum in this tournament being undefeated on the final day of play. There were three teams left in the tournament. The Angels, The Hubbers and The Mustangs. The Mustangs drew a bye so the Angels had to play the Hubbers. If the Angels win they are in the championship game and have to be defeated twice to lose but they would have to play back to back games. The Angels chose to DELIBERATELY lose the game to the Hubbers so that they could earn a bye. They threw a pitcher that tossed BP to the Hubbers. They had right hand hitters go to the plate and bat from the left side. They threw pitches away so that Hubbers runners could advance. They would not run out ground balls. I watched the pitcher for the Angels deliberately throw a pitch ten feet over the head of his catcher so that the Hubbers runner on third base could score and give the Hubbers the eighth run needed for a five inning run rule. The Hubbers won that game 8-0 which gave the Angels their first loss and a bye. This was an absolutely sad display of baseball by this organization and a sad day for the young men that had to be drawn up into this horrible display. The Hubbers went on to defeat the Mustangs 3-2 with three runs in the 7th inning. And then a beautiful thing happened. The Angels strategy backfired and they lost to the Hubbers in the championship game. Serves them right!!! The sad part of this is that there were Angels parents justifying this debacle by saying it was the AABC's fault because of the rules and the bracket. Hopefully most of us teach our kids to compete and give it their all whether it is on the baseball field or in life. Sadly the young men from the Angels learned a hard life lesson yesterday. Never lay down and never give up.

Congratulations to the Hubbers!!!! Good Luck in Farmington.

btdad, I could not agree with you more.

I love the baseball gods!

Good luck to the Hubbers in Farmington.

I have no intention to defend the Angels strategy, but the fact of the matter is that faulty rules by AABC creates this problem.

This is 2 AABC tournaments in a row that I have seen in which the undefeated team is penalized by the tournament rules.

Congrats to the Hubbers who became my rooting favorite after our team was eliminated.

btdad, enjoyed meeting up & talking w/ you (about this same topic) before your 2nd game on Saturday.

To Bighit 15 & all,
A Texas baseball history lesson:

In the empty reaches of New Mexico and Texas, baseball flourished in the 1940s and 1950s. In 1922, a team from Lubbock entered the world of Organized Baseball. Playing in the Class D West Texas League, the Hubbers, (named for the fact that Lubbock was known as the "Hub City" of the South Plains) made their mark. Following the War, the West Texas - New Mexico League was revived in 1946 as a Class C circuit. The Lubbock Hubbers became a farm team of the Detroit Tigers. The Lubbock Hubbers played in the West Texas - New Mexico league until the loop's demise in 1955.

They're back. Great job Hubbers!

How did the "faulty rules of AABC" create this problem?

Congratulations to the Lubbock Hubbers! Hard not to like that salty group of kids.

As for the rules, all 16 of our teams played by the same rules and in the end still had to score more runs than our opponents. Only one team was able to do it enough times and they are more than deserving to advance. I'm certain the Hubbers will do a great job representing Texas baseball in Farmington.

It should be noted that Lubbock played well even though they were missing one of their best players in Evan Gerald. Evan hurt his back last Sunday in pitching the Hubbers to a win in the AABC State championship game and wasn't able to make the trip to Broken Arrow.

will he be able to play in Farmington if he's better? I heard if a player didn't play in Broken Arrow, they cannot play in Farmington. What's the rule concerning that as there were several players out for various reasons?

Congrats to the Hubbers. They're a great team and a good group of guys. It was fun playing against them in the championship game of the Cherry Creek Classic this summer, we barely beat them. They were playing absolutely lights out baseball when I watched them at the regional. BTW, we lost the the Sliders in that game which ended around 4 in the morning.

Brice

The LUBBOCK HUBBERS team members include:
Jason Seefeld (Clovis H.S.),
Josh Wilson (Midland/Texas Tech Univ.),
J.W. Wilson (Midland H.S.),
Miles Morgan (Coronado/TT),
Kurt Pessa (Coronado/Rice University),
Taylor Ashby (Monterey H.S.),
Juan Maldonado (Monterey/Lubbock Christian Univ.),
Brian Cloud (Cooper/TT),
Jacob Cunningham (Cooper H.S.),
Matt Smith (McKinney/TT ),
Chris Hobdy (Monterey H.S.),
Logan Leslie (Lubbock Christian H.S.),
Clayton Cooper (LCHS),
Hector Limon Jr. (Estacado H.S.),
Daren Lawless (Levelland/LCU),
Chad Farr (Levelland/Weatherford JC),
Evan Gerald (Tascosa/Texas A&M),
A.J. Ramos (Estacado H.S.),
Tucker Mattson (Monterey H.S.)
COACHES: Bobb Fannin (LCU)
Justin Hays (Howard Payne)

As listed in the Lubbock newspaper at start of Regional Tournament.
Good luck players & coaches.

BTdad,

You have the facts wrong.

"The Mustangs drew a bye so the Angels had to play the Hubbers. If the Angels win they are in the championship game and have to be defeated twice to lose but they would have to play back to back games."

The Angels had already played one game, prior to facing the Hubbers. If they had beat the Hubbers, they would have only been allowed to play the Mustangs once. The AABC will not allow a team to play 4-games, in one day.

As far as "serving them right", so be it. The bottom line is that the Hubbers won the championship, fair and square. Nothing else matters.

The only way that the Angels could get a bye was by losing to the Hubbers. I won't second guess their staff. They've had a good summer, including the Broken Arrow event.

Here's to the Hubbers.......bring back the trophy to Texas.

By the way, I'll be up in your neck of the woods, as my son is playing in the State Collegiate Tournament, Aug 5-8 @ Reverchon Park, Dallas.

Be good,
David

LeftyDad,

FYI, I spoke with the AABC official and he assured me that the Angels would have still been in the driver's seat and would have to be beaten twice. AABC does not allow a team to play three games in one day yet they allowed it at this event. Because they chose to "throw" the game it ended up being a one game championship anyway. Besides, what's to second guess? Throwing a game in that manner is just WRONG under ANY circumstances. You do not teach young men to be quitters under the guise of strategy. JMO.

Good luck to your son at Reverchon. Take care.

btdad,

That's what is so great......we all get to have opinions.

Be good,
David

Yeah, that 3 games a day thing, they got around it with us, lol, made us play at 10, 2, then one in the morning. Kinda ridiculous, but oh well, the rain delays and the lights having to be off by 12 at Lincoln Christian, as well as the allowance of only two hours between each game kinda caused that.

Brice

All of which is why the Regional should be played in Houston where you have UH's field, Rice's field and San Jac's field.. .and no light restrictions.

I think "restricting" a regional to a specific geographic location (like Houston for instance) would provide an unfair advantage for some teams. Certainly there are other venues that can support this type of tournament -- even if the event rotates on an annual basis. Dallas could easily support such an event -- as could OK City, Abilene, and a number of other cities in the region.

Why didn't the Angels simply forfeit the game without playing it, rather than make a travesty of the contest? Would AABC allow it?

As could Pueblo, Colorado host one. They've got two great fields at the Runyon complex, with no lighting restrictions that I know of, as well as the great field at Colorado State Pueblo University.

Brice

I like the Houston Idea

PantherDad,

The AABC official told me that the Angels could have forfeited the game without consequence. I was also told that the Angels wanted to play the game to make the other team use up pitching (this is hearsay).

btdad,
Why wouldn't you make them use up pitching? Good lord, the Angels didn't get a bye, until they lost their first game of the tournament, after starting (5-0), in the winner's bracket.

Why don't you call up any college coach or professional manager, and ask them what they would have done in that situation.

The Angels options were limited to two scenarios.

A. Win against the Hubbers, and play one more game against the Mustangs. That game would have been held immediately after the game against the Hubbers. That would have been the 3rd game in a row. The Angels were told they would be allowed only ONE game, against the Mustangs. If they would have lost that game, the Mustangs would advance to Farmington.

B. Lose against the Hubbers, get to rest the players from the heat, and play one more game against the winner of Hubbers/Mustangs.

Granted, the Hubbers played 3-games in a row, won them all, and took the tourney title. Winning under those conditions is even more amazing, but your shots at the Angels organization are ridiculous. If you knew any of the coaches or their players, you wouldn't be hammering them.

As always, the politically incorrect opinions stated above are mine..... they cost nothing ..... and have even less value.

Be good,
David

"Good lord, the Angels didn't get a bye, until they lost their first game of the tournament, after starting (5-0), in the winner's bracket."

And the problem with this is???????? Did any team receive two byes prior to the Angels??? Don't they pretty much draw for byes out of a hat, regardless of winner/loser?

twa,

Nice post! I have no knowledge of your claims. Actually, we were talking about baseball, I think.

David Marshall

twa, what is your point?

Outsider,

Drawing for bye's penalizes the winner's bracket teams....not just the Angels. I have never seen a tournament handled in that manner.

That said, it had nothing to do with the Angels losing and the Hubbers winning. The best team won, and that's a fact. I was simply making a comment, which evidently bothered you. That was not my intent......

Big.....how's junior doing?

Be good,
David

Lefty, AABC doesn't play a "true" double elimination bracket. They never have. Rule 11 in the AABC handbook has all of the information regarding this subject. I don't know if I agree with it or not because it can be a pain, but it's been that way for 30 years or more. If people don't want to play by the rules in place, they can lobby to change them or go pay to play in USSSA world series.

The teams know going in what can happen. Don't complain about it after it happens.

Good luck to all teams in the Mack world Series. From what I've heard the Mack is truly an outstanding tournament and I hope to make it out there one day.

Hubbers leave today for Farmington.

Go Hubbers! Go Hubbers!

Good morning ya'll

Just posted the Connie Mack WS site in the general forum but wanted to add it here since I see the now famous HSBBW Hubbers are playing tomorrow at 1:00

Connie Mack World Series

Listen at 1:00 Sunday

Good Luck!! As we northeasterner's would say:
Hubbah...Hubbah...Hubbah

In my cutest, adorable cheerleading outfit...holding pompoms high...yelling

GO HUBBER>>>GO HUBBERS>>>>GO HUBBERS

Now doing a cartwheel and a split....ya right in my dreams but you get my drift

pretty cool about the hubbers. the baseball out there is getting better and better. amarillo high, amarillo tascosa, lubbock coronado, lubbock montery, randall, midland, etc. the success of the hubbers is a great reflection on all west texas baseball.

Looks like the Hubbers dropped their first game to the Florida Bombers.

Brice

quote:

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Originally posted by catchermom03:
In my cutest, adorable cheerleading outfit...holding pompoms high...yelling

GO HUBBER>>>GO HUBBERS>>>>GO HUBBERS

Now doing a cartwheel and a split....ya right in my dreams but you get my drift

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QuitIt! MoM

yep, Hubbers lost first game 17-8 to Florida Bombers
sounds like the Bombers 'bombed' their way to the win with several homeruns - 2 by one kid. hard to beat that if you aren't hitting likewise. Hubbers meet Farmington today at 5.Great article in the Farmington Daily about the game.
Go Hubbers!

I see where the Lubbock Hubbers go 2 and out at the 2004 Connie Mack World Series.

Their second loss had to be a heartbreaker to the Farmington Sky Sox 5-4 in 10 innings.
However, a successful summer for players to look back on.

oh well..Hubbers gave it their best shot...

Good job Hubbers.