Consistenly Grounding out

Not sure what you mean PG. Matt Smith sure is doing well in Ga. The establishment is what some others call pro scouts here at HSBBW. Will there be any updates on hotlist this week at PG site? peace, Shep

While I got cha Jerry since your such a hard person to reach now-a-days, have you guys filled staff positions for Academies down here in Ft Lauderdale at Baltimore's facility?

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thought the baseball "establishment" was a problem in your thinking or is that only when they disagree?

Jerry, can you please explain what you mean by this ? Shep

Shep,

Email me about the academy.

The "establishment" is something you should talk to BlueDog and Infopimp about. I don't think they have much faith in the baseball "establishment". It's one of the many things I have learned, right here on the HSBBW.

Not saying they are not right, but find it kind of funny that you're trying to use the "establishment" to prove what they say is 100% correct. I think it's been their opinion for a long time that, hitting coaches, and others involved in professional baseball do not understand the swing.

Thanks-a-million PG Jerry for clearing that up for me Jerry and I do believe I understand what you mean now. Been trying to get Info and BlueDog to see that some of their ideas are also shared by scouts and we are not their enemy.

Thank you for the opportunity, I will email you after school which will soon be out here in FL. The idol time I will have from last week of this month till early August could prove to be turning point in my dreams and aspirations. Believe in "showing" not talking and this will be a "Perfect Time" for you and your staff to get to know the real person and what I have to offer.

Thank you sir again for the opportunity to further discuss this idea I got just last night and look forward to speaking with you.

Best Regards,

Shep

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In swinging a bat, the body's load/unload process should be a continuous dynamic process of muscle activation.....

The body loads by stretching muscles in a certain direction, then unloads by stretching those muscles in a different direction....It's an eccentric, concentric process.....The reversal action of the muscles during the load/unload phase needs to be instantaneous in order to be efficient....IOW, you don't load, wait,

BlueDog,

Your above discription... Can it be done without good rhythm? Can there be good rhythm in the swing without it?

By the way, I'm kind of glad to see you and infopimp back on here. I imagine BBScout is real busy these days, hope he finds some time to chime in soon.

Other than some of the personal arguments, you guys always add a lot of good stuff.

One question... If someone disagrees with something you say... Does that make them stupid?

On this site?....Usually.

Infopimp:

Not to be rude, but there are many individual coaches and instructors here who know more about teaching the game at 60/90’ than you and Blue dog combined.

Granted you two know more nymonology (engineered terms to replace traditional ones) than anyone here, but don’t confuse the skills of spelling, typing, thesaurus and attaching clips and smiley faces with the skills of hitting, pitching, catching, base running and playing every defensive position.

Example: http://hsbaseballweb.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8591034941/m/6771039061

THop

Dog-

The bat does not suddenly change direction. The "cusp" has to do with other human things reversing efficiently (soft tissues,not bones).

I also disagree with your contention that timing can not be taught since it's a "brain thing".You have a lot of company here as even DMAC says timing can't be taught.

This is one of the reasons I personally find Epstein has the best approach. He has a good enough model so that he caninsert the toe touch/heel drop landmark as a workable method of working on timing. I think he demonstrates that technique and timing can both be taught as well as how they relate to each other.This does not mean you must necessarily pause here, although it can be a good idea for off speed in either delaying creation of cusp without interruption of coil; or interupting and reloading if you need to wait that long.

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Originally posted by tom.guerry:

The bat does not suddenly change direction.

You're kidding, right? So......it does so slowly?

Yes it does so slowly and usually as a continuous circling action,not a back and forth reversal.

The things that reverse are soft tissue/muscles via tissue elasticity and muscular force production. This is measured and actually exists as "xfactor stretch" which is the creation of that part of the cusp before reversal. But you have to understand and "believe" in xfactor/xfactor stretch which has been consistently found in golf AND hitting,with a better cusp/xfactor stretch found in the best performers.

GOLF illustration:

http://www.advancedmotionmeasurement.com/html/XFactorStretch2.htm

notice cusp appears on graph in high level performers

Same company/equipment used on high performing mlb hitters shows initial hip-shoulder separation of 15 degrees in load motion followed by xfactor stretch of separation to form cusp of another 12 degrees of dynamic separation at/after front heel drop.See summary from pimp's ol buddy Zig:

http://www.batspeed.com/messageboard/10685.html

Tom, I also respect what you have to say.....I don't agree with alot of what you believe about hitting, but, I do know you are very intelligent......So, if you wish to present a differing opinion, I welcome your input..

Blue:

I am only “rude” to you because you (and infopop) are “rude” to others. The reason you are “used to it” is because you guys have done it so often here (and at Baseball Excellence) under the Blue Dog and/or Lamber screen name.

Not only do “most here know more about baseball” than you, there are a lot of people here (and at other sites) who know more about hitting (and teaching it at the 60/90’ level) than you do as well. “Believe it or not,” there are a lot of experienced baseball people who have spent more time studying more clips than you and infopop combined. And not all of them are a part of “the establishment” either.

Now, when you say “hitting”, do you mean just the physical, swing and pre swing mechanics? Are mental approaches and situational hitting skills also within your parameters? As you are aware, I try very hard to NOT limit my discussions on hitting to just physical swing mechanics and more importantly new words some internet guru invented to describe them.

I do not think you are stupid either. Nor do I disagree with a lot of what you say about hitting. I just take issue with your (and infopop’s) demeanor and insistence on using souped up terminology to make money while you add to the already large “gray area” that exists pertaining to swing mechanics AND hitting.

Lastly, could you please expand on your definition or give a detailed description of a “high level swing”?

Thanks,

THop

One thing is for sure.

Everyone here individually is smarter than everyone at baseball-excellence collectively.

Talk 60/90 all you want. The information at baseball-excellence is geared to beginners. Those who have never played and never coached.

No wonder you feel smart there.

LOL. “One thing is for sure”, you have obviously never “purchased” anything from BE. But you do make a good point about some of the information that appears on its (and every other) discussion board from time to time. LOL. Especially the thread below where YOU (using the Lamber screen name, LOL) so eloquently put us all in our place with your infinite baseball wisdom (Truth). LOL


http://www.baseball-excellence.com/sbaseballforums/view...rds=was%20that%20you

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Originally posted by BlueDog:
Also, a hitter should not stride to the toe and hold that position.....If you're gonna do that, why not just start in that position?...

BlueDog - My son's hitting instructor calls this "Post Stride" and has taught him to do this when he's behind in the count. My understanding is that this is done when behind in the count with the thought something off-speed will be thrown. This way the weight is back and he's in a better position to drive those pitches. I may be missing something but I'm sure you get the general idea.

Regarding the original question, could the batter be dropping his back shoulder, swinging with an uppercut?

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Originally posted by Jonny12baseball:
Do some long tee it helps me

Never heard of this. Can you explain?

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Originally posted by THop:
Especially the thread below where YOU (using the Lamber screen name) so eloquently put us all in our place with your infinite baseball wisdom (truth). LOL

http://www.baseball-excellence.com/sbaseballforums/view...rds=fair%20territory

I stand by everything I wrote in that post. When you get out of elementary school, you'll understand what was written. And, if you were a catcher like you claim, you'd agree with me.

The runners who take an east/west step to get into fair territory, when the catcher is attempting a pickoff, are dead ducks on close plays. Fact. Thank you for the extra step runner........Now, go sit down. And when you coach yells at you, remind him what he taught you.

You better go north and south or your dead.

BTW, you couldn't have come up with a better "elementary" example of your teachings.

Thanks for proving my point.

Beezer, your son needs a new hitting instructor....

ditto

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Originally posted by BlueDog:
Beezer, your son needs a new hitting instructor....

It seems to be working for him. I don't think he's been caught off guard yet by something off speed on a 0-2, 1-2, 2-2 count. He's only K'd a few times and I think they were because he was "looking" thinking they were out of the zone. One may have been swinging.