Dads or Coaches can't catch your kids anymore??

Very ingenious young man!

Good luck in your endeavor!

YGD

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Originally posted by YoungGunDad:
Very ingenious young man!

Good luck in your endeavor!

YGD

My son made a nice bit of change doing that this summer. Former D1 pitcher gives lesson locally. Gives him a cut of every session.

My son's pitching coach hires local HS catchers to catch for his lessons, all ages of pitchers. He pays $10/hr ($5.00 for 1/2 hr lesson) It was great experience for my son's friend (a catcher) as the information he gleaned about pitching and how to handle pitchers was invaluable!

Thanks everyone for your input!
ive been actually thinking i should lower the price, unless your in college and throw 90+.
Sorry, but that takes alot more work than just catching the baseball.

Anyway im going to take $10 for 30 mins, and $20 for a full hour for anyone in high school and younger. Thanks again, and let me know!

Just a thought, but you might want to remove your number - you can ask folks to pm you first.

-mommy talking

eta - we have paid catchers before. Son's friend worked with a PT who used him to catch so he could watch mechanics.

You should ask to post your information at every indoor baseball facility in Plano and surrounds. "Check your local listings" for those facility numbers. Great idea! You may want to contact local high school coaches to pass the info along, if they can do that.

Get on the computer and make up some business cards, too!

Post this in the Texas Forum. You might get more responses.

You can get 250 free business cards printed at vistaprint.com.

I wish you were a it closer to Mesa, AZ kid, cuz catching for my son has proved dangerous to my health...I've been laid out a couple of times huffing and puffing in pain and agony! Plano is just a little too far...sorry.

Great idea...that's the way to use your brain!

Good luck kid!

I could catch son if my knees wouldn't shake.

I can catch him still as long as I wear full gear. He gets faster and I get slower as time goes by so I'd be happy to pay for a catcher if he needed one. Although reaction times slow with age they don't slow all that much through about 50 years of age. Between 50 and 60 reaction times slow pretty significantly.

When I think the ball is in the dirt I bail ahead of time. I'm not taking anymore breaking pitches off the ankles and shins. Last winter indoors I dove out of the way and retired on the first pitch. I couldn't pick up the ball well off the wall with indoor lighting.

I went and purchased shin guards during my kids freshman year, and that eliminated the breaking ball to the shin problem. I've even been able to handle the velocity increases the last couple of years. But, I finally had to raise the white flag when it became apparent that I couldn't catch his fastball now that it has a little late life to it and my eyes just aren't what they used to be! I've come to the conclusion, that it's much safer to have one of his catcher's squat down and handle his bullpens! The tough part is the schedule conflicts with trying to get kids together. With that said, I can see how a kid could make a little extra cash as a BP Catcher.

Indoors is much tougher.

CADad,

I agree. But for me, it really doesn't matter...indoors, outdoors, sunny, cloudy...stick a fork in me, I'm done!

haha thanks for everyones input! if everyone could spread the word to their fellow teammates, that would be a great help to me! and all you dads having trouble, let me know

catch4cash,
You have a pm.

Catch4cash has contacted Texas HS Association (UIL) and found out that this is not allowed in his state.

I suggest for anything like this, a player always makes proper contact to the appropriate person of authority, no amount of money in the world is worth jeopardizing one's college eligibility in regards to playing a sport.

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Originally posted by Catch4Cash:
Hi i go to high school and i am a catcher. I need a job during the fall and i've decided that i could turn catching bullpen into payments for my new car . I've been catching ever since ive started playing baseball. I've caught many different college players as well as a few professional ball pitchers. If you need someone to catch your son, your giving lessons and want a catcher, or you just need a throwing partner, i am willing to catch anyone. I am not here to give lessons, i know a thing or two about pitching but im not a pitcher by trade and i wouldn't be able to help that much. I would prefer to meet anyone at a high school near Plano to throw a bullpen, but other close high schools are okay as well. I'm charging a rate of $10 per 30 mins for any player high school age and under. College pitcchers will be $20 per 30 mins. School is starting up soon so during the week i would only be able to do these after about 5:00. Thank you for your time, and if you're interested, email me at ckahawaii@verizon.net
Thanks again

Very good idea. Beats cutting lawns...

Stu

Stu,
You should go back and read the entire topic.

catch4cash,
TPM has posted that the UIL told you that "this" isn't allowed by UIL rule.
Would mind telling us exactly what isn't allowed? The UIL Baseball Manual says that an athlete may not Accept valuable consideration for teaching or coaching any UIL sport, except beginning swimming or lifesaving lessons.
Did you present your intent as catching bullpens but not coaching?

Section 441 of subChapter M contains the actual rule, which prohibits receiving valuable consideration for teaching or participating in a League sponsored school sport. Do they consider catcing a bullpen as participating?

TPM,
You wrote "no amount of money in the world is worth jeopardizing one's college eligibility in regards to playing a sport." Let's leave aside the possibility of signing a pro contract before a players college eligibility has expired.
But do you know of any rule that suggest getting paid for catching bullpens while in high school would affect college eligibility?

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Originally posted by 3FingeredGlove:
catch4cash,
TPM has posted that the UIL told you that "this" isn't allowed by UIL rule.
Would mind telling us exactly what isn't allowed? The UIL Baseball Manual says that an athlete may not Accept valuable consideration for teaching or coaching any UIL sport, except beginning swimming or lifesaving lessons.
Did you present your intent as catching bullpens but not coaching?

Section 441 of subChapter M contains the actual rule, which prohibits receiving valuable consideration for teaching or participating in a League sponsored school sport. Do they consider catcing a bullpen as participating?

TPM,
You wrote "no amount of money in the world is worth jeopardizing one's college eligibility in regards to playing a sport." Let's leave aside the possibility of signing a pro contract before a players college eligibility has expired.
But do you know of any rule that suggest getting paid for catching bullpens while in high school would affect college eligibility?

3FingeredGlove,
I did in fact email an official from UIL, he said he wasn't sure that it was actually a violation of the rules, but in his opinion he wouldnt try because he said it could possibly affect college eligibilty. I don't know why this is exactly the case because i dont know what harm it could do, but at the same time i wouldn't wanna risk that. So on to more job searchin!

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"Beats cutting lawns..."

But, oh my gosh, if you do cut grass make sure it doesn't include an infield!

What a shame that a resourceful, motivated, creative, and hard working kid like Catch4Cash cannot help himself (and others) because of these heavy, freedom stifling, rules that only exist because of the greed exhibited by some morons in the past. "Rule out the greedy...smother everyone else!" What a horrible creed. Pitch it! Please!

Catch4Cash is dealing with a rule that even the bureaucrat is unable to decipher correctly. "When in doubt...squelch!" Drain the life and freedom from our most productive. Why? Because! That's all...because! Childish. Stupid. Enfeebling.

From my perch way up on top of my soapbox it sure looks bleak out there, but there is some promise. I can see a mutt, a fine strong mutt, scampering off to the future. Searching for November. Hungry for a bone. Focused on the savor. The liberating savor of common sense.

We're with you Catch4Cash. We're with everyone out there who craves freedom and exudes creativity. Be cautious and don't jeopardize your future by becoming entangled by some smothering rule. You must abide by it for now, but roll it around in your mind. Why does it exist? If it is worthy, then respect it. If it is unworthy, then fight it. Let others know. Win the battle. Throw off the shackles and clear a path to freedom.

I'm sorry if my rant seems out of place. In my opinion you have, because of your admirable ambition, encountered a valuable experience that you can learn from and incorporate into your young life. And others can learn from you.

Keep the spirit. Keep the drive. Work hard to overcome the squelching, the stifling, the smothering. You're our future. You're our hope Catch4Cash. Lead by example. Be honest. Be fair. Enjoy the ride. Your upbeat attitude will serve you well.

Much success to you, Catch4Cash...you deserve it!




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catch4cash

for what it's worth, i think 3fg knows more about the ncaa rules than they do. i wouldn't give up just yet.

woody
i agree with you, except......i'm wondering where the puppy fits in? but i'm with ya anyway.

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"i'm wondering where the puppy fits in?"

Well 20dad...it was getting late, I was bushed, but still a bit hungry. I rummaged around and found a snack bag of this...



And what I thought were some stale wontons...



So after polishing off the bag and taking account of all of the fillings in my mouth all of my thoughts at that late hour were barking "think canine!" After I finished up my post I hit the sack, rolled over, and played dead while visions of Fox News© danced in my head!




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Easy Gotwood.....
If I understand the messages in this thread correctly, the Texas UIL official didn't say that it would break a UIL rule; instead he thought it might affect college eligibility.

The NCAA hasn't been asked for an opinion.

So, at the moment, nobody has said catching bullpens for pay is against a UIL or NCAA rule.

3FG,
First I did not contact the UIL, someone else did, out of concern for the player. And that person contacted the player, who indicated that it was ok because the majority here on the HSBBW thought it was ok.

Upon my suggestion, the player contacted them and if you read in the post he posted in the Texas thread, he stated he was told he would be in violation of UIL rules to receive compensation (for services rendered) for helping or giving instruction which may jeopardize his eligibilty later on. That was what was stated over in that thread, the same thing that was stated to the person making the inquiry, if the player posted something different here, or doesn't completely understand he should go to his folks to help him with this, not here on a message board or ask his HS coach. JMO. Of course this means nothing if teh player does not wish to play baseball beyond HS.

The point is, that, this is just a player that came up with a really neat idea, posted it here (and it did bring other inquiries if it was allowed), was given suggestions to get business cards made up,contact HS coaches, etc. I am sure that there are many kids out there that do stuff, given a few bucks on the side, use it for what they need, just a bit different tham being encouraged to start a business (as suggested here). The player was only given a suggestion to follow through, on HIS OWN. He can draw his own conclusions as to what he wants to do after teh inquiry, that's up to him. I just know that the mom who originally saw his post, was in the process of reviewing booster club rules, and made that inquiry to the UIL compliance director.

I think it is part of our responsibility here to "guide" young players into making the right decisions, which would be to make the proper inquiry on their own, wehich was what was suggested by us "moms".

As far as what I said about jeopardizing one's college eligibility, I think that you knew I didn't mean going professional, but as we all know, because people claim, "they didn't know" it happens.

The mom by the way, is making further inquiry to the NCAA, for her ouwn curiosity more than anything.

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3FingeredGlove,

That's good to know. I hope everything works out for Catch4Cash in regards to the NCAA and his college eligibility.

My rant was really more general. I just think we all get squelched needlessly at times. There is no better time than when you're young to recognize what is happening and then stand up for your freedom.

I really admire Catch4Cash's ambition. He needs to be cautious for certain, but his drive needs to flourish. He will find a way.




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