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I am sure they have some inside knowledge but this seems a little odd as the committee isn't scheduled to meet until tomorrow.  Also, with the announcement on Friday that all D1 athletes would be allowed on campus June 1st for voluntary workouts, not just football and basketball as previously approved I had hoped that the dead period would be allowed to expire.

I got an email yesterday from PBR saying they are going ahead with our NYS games, and will have cameras. They seem to think it'll be extended. My son is currently scheduled to go to BCS then WWBA. Have to say, only so much money I'm willing to spend to hopefully be seen by a coach watching a video screen, even if they already know my kid.

Also, my understanding is that as it stands right now, D1 coaches are not allowed to watch live events online. So unless that changes, you are sending video, along with thousands of other kids.

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The June 1 allowance of athletes back to campus is encouraging. I appreciate the NCAA trying to keep everyone safe, but extending to July 31 is a killer to 2021s. It basically reduces the recruiting window to a few months, especially for my son who, if he's lucky enough, will be an early admission application kid if he gets a High Academic slot offer.

At some point, the kids have to play, just like people will need to go back to work and shops need to open with proper safety regs. I'd love to know how this committee is making decisions, and I hope its not based on some #@!$!$ insurance algorithm. Well, I guess we'll know more today. Does anyone know what time the call is supposed to happen?

Unless you are a 2021 GS grad it makes no sense to put any emphasis on travel ball this summer. There will be no college coaches there to watch any showcases or tournaments - regardless of what 2 initials are in front of them and regardless of what your travel ball org is telling you. Spend the summer training and working out. Especially if you are a pitcher. This is the time to practice more and play less. 

@adbono posted:

Unless you are a 2021 GS grad it makes no sense to put any emphasis on travel ball this summer. There will be no college coaches there to watch any showcases or tournaments - regardless of what 2 initials are in front of them and regardless of what your travel ball org is telling you. Spend the summer training and working out. Especially if you are a pitcher. This is the time to practice more and play less. 

The problem is most travel teams require upfront payment....

@Wechson posted:

Someone early went on a well earned rant about how this all sucks.  Well this sucks. 

Mark Emmert needs to be replaced, or the Conferences need to regulate themselves and move forward without the NCAA.

Despite what P5 commissioners may be saying, don't think that they didn't notice that The Ninth circuit US Court of Appeals referred to the NCAA as " a cartel of buyers acting in concert to artificially depress the price that sellers could otherwise receive for their services." 

I promise you boosters in the Texas, Ohio, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, etc, all heard "you can pay players to play and it is not illegal." 

How long before we start seeing the best college football teams money can buy without consequence?  No way Texas, 'Bama, UGA, either OSU, or Clemson are staying part of a system that won't let them pay players.

@baseballhs posted:

I don’t understand how they are justifying letting football players come back and work out (which I’m for), but not let a coach stand outside and watch a baseball game.

I don't know if everyone is aware, but the dead period includes ALL D1 coaches.  Not just baseball. The NCAA stated that they will continue to evaluate and seek advice from medical professionals.

Keep in mind that they need to protect their employees. Very possible many will be furloughed.  Its not a good situation for a lot of people.

The justification is that football helps to pay the bills for many athletic programs. 

My understanding is that football workouts will be a learning situation for other sports. 

My son is a 2020 signed D2 LOI and is playing summer ball because my thought process was after losing his senior season he really needs the at bats. Losing a whole year of development prior to his first year of college would have been a killer imo. Hes been working out since March and will all summer as well. Just my thought process due to losing senior year of ball

This definitely changed the schedule for our showcase team. There was talks about heading to the 15u WWBA at the end of June. But now the thought is why bother. Just stay in Texas and play local tournaments. Save the families money. Our organization's scout day has also been postponed again. At this point the mindset is to just play any ball. 

My son got invited to the PG Jr National (in June) and the PG Freshman All American (last week of July/first part of August). He decided to go to the Freshman All American Showcase instead of Jr National. Yesterday I told him that I was glad he decided that. I can see the Jr National not getting as much attendees now since no colleges will be there. If the dead period does end up expiring on July 31st, then the Freshman All American will be the first event going on and I am sure there will be a swarm of coaches there. He is already committed so it is not a huge deal for him for coaches to be there, but like his showcase coach said it is never a bad idea to keep your name fresh.

@ARCEKU21 posted:

This definitely changed the schedule for our showcase team. There was talks about heading to the 15u WWBA at the end of June. But now the thought is why bother. Just stay in Texas and play local tournaments. Save the families money. Our organization's scout day has also been postponed again. At this point the mindset is to just play any ball. 

My son got invited to the PG Jr National (in June) and the PG Freshman All American (last week of July/first part of August). He decided to go to the Freshman All American Showcase instead of Jr National. Yesterday I told him that I was glad he decided that. I can see the Jr National not getting as much attendees now since no colleges will be there. If the dead period does end up expiring on July 31st, then the Freshman All American will be the first event going on and I am sure there will be a swarm of coaches there. He is already committed so it is not a huge deal for him for coaches to be there, but like his showcase coach said it is never a bad idea to keep your name fresh.

Why would he already be committed at 15 years old?  That benefits the school (if he continues to progress) but doesn’t benefit your son in any way.  In fact it ends his recruiting. Considering how much the landscape has changed in the past 90 days I would encourage you to re-think that decision. 

@adbono posted:

Why would he already be committed at 15 years old?  That benefits the school (if he continues to progress) but doesn’t benefit your son in any way.  In fact it ends his recruiting. Considering how much the landscape has changed in the past 90 days I would encourage you to re-think that decision. 

I encourage you to go take a look at the PG website under the 2023's. There are 178 2023's committed. Our showcase team alone has 5 of those 2023's already committed.  Heck there are 20 2024's committed. 

He is committed to a P5 school that he is very happy with. He had offers from other P5 schools and he said the school he chose is everything he is looking for in not only a school but baseball opportunities. Plus the coaching staff blew us away. They don't over recruit players, which was a huge selling point and even more important now. He even had plans to go to some camps at other schools on his list this summer, but back in January he said he knew it just felt right and said he didn't want to look anymore. Plus his offer was going to be very tough to beat.

My opinion differs in yours in that I do think it benefit him. I actually think him committing early is not a bad thing given the current landscape. The school doesn't over recruit to start with, but I think everything that has happened the past couple of months, schools are going to get even more stingy with recruiting. I have to imagine that what we have seen in the past from schools like Texas Tech, Miami, Florida State, Louisville, etc where they have 20+ kids in a recruiting class, those days are going to be over. Texas Tech has 22 players listed in this years 2020 recruiting class. No way all those kids see that campus or make that team. Miami's 2023 class already has 9 players committed, Florida State has 8.  So by having his foot in the door and already committed at a school that doesn't over recruit, that takes a load off of him rather than sitting and wondering how the next few years are going to shake out. My son has a friend who is a top 50 player in the class and basically recruiting has gone silent right now because of everything and he and his family are very frustrated. He is being told to just be patient with process to see how things shake out in the new environment. Being committed early means my son doesn't have to worry about that. The pressure of the recruiting process is gone. Now he can focus on holding up his end of the bargain by continuing to improve and get better. 

Agree. Commitment to a school and program you love, and with a coaching staff that doesn't over recruit, is a huge relief and very helpful no matter when you do it. Congrats to you guys. 

However, a 2023 (even a top 50 player as a Freshman), shouldn't be frustrated in the process being paused or delayed given the stress and limited time for the 2020s-21s, then 22s and 23s....during a dead or open period....with so much changing and on the line. The 23s have YEARS left.....

 

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@ARCEKU21 posted:

I encourage you to go take a look at the PG website under the 2023's. There are 178 2023's committed. Our showcase team alone has 5 of those 2023's already committed.  Heck there are 20 2024's committed. 

He is committed to a P5 school that he is very happy with. He had offers from other P5 schools and he said the school he chose is everything he is looking for in not only a school but baseball opportunities. Plus the coaching staff blew us away. They don't over recruit players, which was a huge selling point and even more important now. He even had plans to go to some camps at other schools on his list this summer, but back in January he said he knew it just felt right and said he didn't want to look anymore. Plus his offer was going to be very tough to beat.

My opinion differs in yours in that I do think it benefit him. I actually think him committing early is not a bad thing given the current landscape. The school doesn't over recruit to start with, but I think everything that has happened the past couple of months, schools are going to get even more stingy with recruiting. I have to imagine that what we have seen in the past from schools like Texas Tech, Miami, Florida State, Louisville, etc where they have 20+ kids in a recruiting class, those days are going to be over. Texas Tech has 22 players listed in this years 2020 recruiting class. No way all those kids see that campus or make that team. Miami's 2023 class already has 9 players committed, Florida State has 8.  So by having his foot in the door and already committed at a school that doesn't over recruit, that takes a load off of him rather than sitting and wondering how the next few years are going to shake out. My son has a friend who is a top 50 player in the class and basically recruiting has gone silent right now because of everything and he and his family are very frustrated. He is being told to just be patient with process to see how things shake out in the new environment. Being committed early means my son doesn't have to worry about that. The pressure of the recruiting process is gone. Now he can focus on holding up his end of the bargain by continuing to improve and get better. 

I hear you and I hope it works out the way you want it to. I just have a different school of thought. I don’t think many people can accurately predict at 15 where is the best place for them to be when they are 18. Too many things are subject to change. 

I think it is great to be able to say you've committed at that age.  Not only does it build confidence but the 'commit' badge opens doors even during HS.

However, I would tell my kid to pretend that the commit doesn't exist.  Because in reality it really doesn't until a LOI is signed and there is a long, long way to go before that happens.  And even after the LOI is inked I would have plan B & C ready to go... There are a lot of examples when a kid gets hosed after thinking he's got it in the bag for all those years.  Sad.

Oh, and..... IMHO kids tend to think (teenage mentality) that grades don't matter after a commit.  Better work on that too.

@CaliDad posted:

I think it is great to be able to say you've committed at that age.  Not only does it build confidence but the 'commit' badge opens doors even during HS.

However, I would tell my kid to pretend that the commit doesn't exist.  Because in reality it really doesn't until a LOI is signed and there is a long, long way to go before that happens.  And even after the LOI is inked I would have plan B & C ready to go... There are a lot of examples when a kid gets hosed after thinking he's got it in the bag for all those years.  Sad.

Oh, and..... IMHO kids tend to think (teenage mentality) that grades don't matter after a commit.  Better work on that too.

100% on everything you said here. I told him the commit really means nothing right now until he puts pen to paper. I told him that he now how has to train and work even harder. Not only to keep up his end of the bargain with the school, but he also has a target on his back. Not only within his school program but also when we are playing games. People are going to know he is committed and they are going to gun for him. People will try to knock him down. He likes to quote the saying of "hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard". 

For grades, he is currently a 4.2 gpa student and he knows that mom and I will not accept him slacking in the classroom. Plus, with the school he is committed to, he as the opportunity to make up the difference between his offer and tuition with an academic grant. So we definitely give him the reminder every now and then that he still has 3 more years to go and needs to keep his grades on the current path he is on.

@edcoach posted:

My son is a 2020 signed D2 LOI and is playing summer ball because my thought process was after losing his senior season he really needs the at bats. Losing a whole year of development prior to his first year of college would have been a killer imo. Hes been working out since March and will all summer as well. Just my thought process due to losing senior year of ball

There are quite a few players my son knows who are doing this, including some P5 commits. I do wonder if some of their college coaches have recommended this to incoming freshman when possible. In California, it's difficult. But in the Southeast, it's easy (as of now).

My 2020 is off to college in Aug. His coach would like him to get some innings in somewhere before getting on campus.

For my 2022, we're likely going to skip the 16U BCS and WWBA. All the schools that he's been in contact with have video of him. We may do our PBR state games in order to stay on their good side, but not going to the PG events saves lots of money that can be used on camps and showcases going forward. If he were a 2021 it would be a different story.

Not sure how real this is but just came in an email from NSR.  I can't find it on any site or news feed.  Hopefully, it's not accurate for those attending camps in August.

NCAA Extends Div 1 Recruiting Dead Period to August 31

The Division I Council Coordination Committee extended the recruiting dead period in all sports through August 31.

The committee will regularly evaluate the dead period, continuing to be guided by medical experts.

I am helping a friend plan out how to help her 2021 RHP.  Her husband died of cancer about 8 years ago and her son reclassed to 2021, was a 2020 with my son.  I just called her and she knew already!  All the camps emailed at the end of last week.  She had an interesting take - the D3 coaches are able to go to events and D1's coaches are not.  They are getting the opportunity to pick off the remaining D1 talents.  I don't know if that's correct but could be true. Her son is laser focused on being a "D1" player however.   It's a tough situation for her and her son.  He wants the Patriot League.  Hit 89 on the gun last week.  I told her the magic # is 90 MPH so tell him to go find that...

Funny ..... it seems some D1 coaches have “found a way” which I know for a fact but I’m not going to explain it. They are out there.Also IMO no D3 is picking off anyone that truly has D1 opportunities without that being explored. Maybe a HA situation but not the run of the mill D3. Like for us, yes the D3 coaches are out and getting super aggressive but how could we possibly have a conversation about anything serious unless we really know all the options. The attention is nice but......

Funny ..... it seems some D1 coaches have “found a way” which I know for a fact but I’m not going to explain it. They are out there.Also IMO no D3 is picking off anyone that truly has D1 opportunities without that being explored. Maybe a HA situation but not the run of the mill D3. Like for us, yes the D3 coaches are out and getting super aggressive but how could we possibly have a conversation about anything serious unless we really know all the options. The attention is nice but......

Could that way be to subscribe/talk to scouting businesses that they trust?

Funny ..... it seems some D1 coaches have “found a way” which I know for a fact but I’m not going to explain it. They are out there.Also IMO no D3 is picking off anyone that truly has D1 opportunities without that being explored. Maybe a HA situation but not the run of the mill D3. Like for us, yes the D3 coaches are out and getting super aggressive but how could we possibly have a conversation about anything serious unless we really know all the options. The attention is nice but......

Appreciate this post. D3 schools aren’t picking off D1 talent (with a rare exception). What a joke. 

@adbono posted:

Appreciate this post. D3 schools aren’t picking off D1 talent (with a rare exception). What a joke. 

I wasn't saying its happening, it was a comment made by someone who's only seeing d3 coaches signed up for events.  I bet you a D3 school could pick off a D1 talent though.   Its July, D1 spots this year are tough, all the top schools have filled up their slots.  The draft was 5 rounds.  Seniors came back.  Sure there are a lot of less competitive less academic D1 schools with spots open.   There are also a lot of highly competitive good to great academic D3 schools with 8-10 spots to fill.   You read that comment and you are thinking what - P5 level talent, one level down D1?  Yeah, that isn't going to happen if their focus is high end baseball.  They prob wouldn't get patriot league hopefuls. But good players who are hanging out there right now with slots filling up and dead periods getting extended why is it unreasonable to think a very high end D3 couldn't pick of D1 talent.  Why is that a joke? You clearly understand the environment out there right now.

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Just for clarification , I said a “run of the mill” D3. Not a HA or very competitive D3. I think we can all agree that even though MCLA and Williams are 5 miles apart those are 2 different D3 opportunities.I’m just saying in our case you have mid major D1’s still not even close to filled at all and even a very solid D3 program in there but I’m not sure he would commit without waiting to explore the D1 opportunity to its conclusion at this point. Too much prereading and phone calling still going on. It’s just a really interesting/weird year.

I wasn't saying its happening, it was a comment made by someone who's only seeing d3 coaches signed up for events.  I bet you a D3 school could pick off a D1 talent though.   Its July, D1 spots this year are tough, all the top schools have filled up their slots.  The draft was 5 rounds.  Seniors came back.  Sure there are a lot of less competitive less academic D1 schools with spots open.   There are also a lot of highly competitive good to great academic D3 schools with 8-10 spots to fill.   You read that comment and you are thinking what - P5 level talent, one level down D1?  Yeah, that isn't going to happen if their focus is high end baseball.  They prob wouldn't get patriot league hopefuls. But good players who are hanging out there right now with slots filling up and dead periods getting extended why is it unreasonable to think a very high end D3 couldn't pick of D1 talent.  Why is that a joke? You clearly understand the environment out there right now.

Yes I understand the environment. I also understand the difference between D1 & D3 talent. I also understand the mindset of 18 year old kids seeing as I coach a bunch of them. Kids that think they are D1 (which is most of them) aren’t going to go D3 - even when they should. 

I wasn't saying its happening, it was a comment made by someone who's only seeing d3 coaches signed up for events.  I bet you a D3 school could pick off a D1 talent though.   Its July, D1 spots this year are tough, all the top schools have filled up their slots.  The draft was 5 rounds.  Seniors came back.  Sure there are a lot of less competitive less academic D1 schools with spots open.   There are also a lot of highly competitive good to great academic D3 schools with 8-10 spots to fill.   You read that comment and you are thinking what - P5 level talent, one level down D1?  Yeah, that isn't going to happen if their focus is high end baseball.  They prob wouldn't get patriot league hopefuls. But good players who are hanging out there right now with slots filling up and dead periods getting extended why is it unreasonable to think a very high end D3 couldn't pick of D1 talent.  Why is that a joke? You clearly understand the environment out there right now.

My 2021 probably fits into this very specific category of player.  A HA borderline D1/D3 case. Through the Fall, lots of interest from D3, some interest from D1 pending an impressive summer where he could show improvement.  Well, that's a legitimate challenge now.  Given the situation, D3's are pressing, and D1's are either just going with the kids they saw and liked earlier, not adding many more bodies, or waiting for showcases.  And even then they can only observe via livestream and can't connect in person.  No campus visits, overnights, private workout, etc.  All of the interpersonal character stuff that HA's value.  The kinds of normal process that potentially could have pushed my  son from one category to the other given how close he is on the metrics side. Frankly, it's not really a big deal to him, he's just looking to land at the right school and a majority of them he likes are D3. But he does fall into the tight description in a very peculiar and difficult to navigate year. 

I am helping a friend plan out how to help her 2021 RHP.  Her husband died of cancer about 8 years ago and her son reclassed to 2021, was a 2020 with my son.  I just called her and she knew already!  All the camps emailed at the end of last week.  She had an interesting take - the D3 coaches are able to go to events and D1's coaches are not.  They are getting the opportunity to pick off the remaining D1 talents.  I don't know if that's correct but could be true. Her son is laser focused on being a "D1" player however.   It's a tough situation for her and her son.  He wants the Patriot League.  Hit 89 on the gun last week.  I told her the magic # is 90 MPH so tell him to go find that...

89 should be very much within reach of a Patriot. He should be emailing those schools hard right now with video, I'm watching kids commit left and right. 

Update.... weekend went exactly as described  with D1,2,3 coaches in attendance. So evidently it is happening. Wondering how many programs will figure this out. Also tells you the huge difference between travel (with good relationships) and legion or town ball where they in general don’t have the relationships. Keep believing you can play locally and “if you are good they will find you”.

Update.... weekend went exactly as described  with D1,2,3 coaches in attendance. So evidently it is happening. Wondering how many programs will figure this out. Also tells you the huge difference between travel (with good relationships) and legion or town ball where they in general don’t have the relationships. Keep believing you can play locally and “if you are good they will find you”.

Where was this?  Really surprised that any D1 or D2 coaches would risk this right now.  

It is most certainly happening.  This should not be any surprise at all.  Better players equals more wins.  More wins equals better job security and more money.  Take a moment and think about all the stories YOU KNOW OF where a college coach was either bending or breaking the rules and got caught.  That happens regularly in non-Covid years.  With the NCAA continuing to handcuff D1 and D2 while others are pretty free to roam, its becomes pretty simple.  With massive rosters expected to walk on to campus in roughly a month or so, how many coaches will be able to get out to see prospects after 8/31?  And that's assuming the dead period doesn't get extended again - again.  Something has to give.  Many will strictly adhere to the rules, but many will succumb to human nature.  Most are always looking hard for an edge. Not condoning it, but I don't understand how it could surprise anyone.  Maybe I'm cynical, but I fully EXPECT it.

Then the question comes to mind.   Would you sign with a coach that illegally recruited your kid during this period whether it was at a tournament he was not supposed to be at or brought you on campus for an illegal trip or any other illegal recruiting?

 

If you answer yes.  Then you cannot be the ones who are trashing coaches for not honoring the NLI's or withdrawing scholarships or any other thing that is not above board. 

As I have told my youth for years.  If you marry someone that you cheated with at the beginning, then you can't much complain when they cheat on you.  How/where you find them is normally how/where you will lose them.  Same with coaches. 

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Dan and pitching, none of this is illegal at all so no I don’t have an issue with it. Velo describes it perfectly, as long as the kids are within 50 miles then they can instruct and sit in dugouts. Keep in mind this is being run by compliance departments first so obviously it’s legit. So maybe stop trashing coaches. I for one am happy because I’m not sure why my 21 has to pay the price for the overall stupidity of the NCAA? The very real idea that the dead period will get extended to 12/31 is how all these coaches are operating. So anything that becomes an “advantage” for the player to help move the process forward is a good thing in my mind.

Pitching fan, I can appreciate your philosophy, but in the real world, holes get poked in it.  College coaches - like everyone else - are not binary.  They're not boy scouts and cheaters.  Very few are.  The vast majority live somewhere in between.  It's a stretch to think any coach that is bending/breaking the recruiting rules right now breaks rules regularly.  Conversely, it's every bit as much a stretch to think that any coach who strictly adheres to the recruiting rules right now regularly adheres to all other rules.  The world is grey, not binary.  There are good people who break the rules and bad people who strictly adhere to them.  The onus is on us to work to gain a holistic assessment of people by doing our due diligence.  You're free to dismiss someone for a rules violation but you may end up dismissing what MIGHT be the best overall fit for a player.  To each their own.

Fmr Coach, Can I ask which schools were at the event?  A sampling? I am aware of a few HA D3 coaches that still don't have clearance from their schools to travel.  Writing coaches now to  figure out what events they actually might attend, but it would be helpful to get a sense of who's been out there at events already.

Honestly I’d rather not be specific publicly. Obviously you can see what area I’m from so you can kinda put 2 and 2 together. We have had D3 coaches at nearly every one of our practices which is somewhat different. As you mention some D3 coaches have also told us that they still can’t leave campus also which is interesting. All these events are very specific private games/camps that involve 2 respected programs so I’m not sure it would be a barometer as to which school will be out at which showcases. This is just totally different. I think this year more than any it’s an advantage to have a good summer program with working relationships and communication.

I’ve heard from a college coach they expect it to extend through fall to keep a level playing field for those that can’t get out or have people visit. Also to keep everyone safe for the on campus players too....

just hope the 2021s get a waiver so they can go get official pictures and NLI signing stuff..... 

After they sign are they allowed since they’re no longer recruits and therefore commits? 

@Eokerholm posted:

I’ve heard from a college coach they expect it to extend through fall to keep a level playing field for those that can’t get out or have people visit. Also to keep everyone safe for the on campus players too....

just hope the 2021s get a waiver so they can go get official pictures and NLI signing stuff..... 

After they sign are they allowed since they’re no longer recruits and therefore commits? 

Not sure if  you are aware but the signing period is typically a dead period for D1.   Also, as far as I am aware, they are not allowed to give the recruit official merchandise until they actually set foot on campus.

They don’t get to keep anything or any gear but they gear up and take photos for the signing announcements or have in the past. 

No recruiting is going as it is “the conclusion of recruiting” per NCAA website. http://www.ncaa.org/student-at...recruiting-calendars

“Signing an National Letter of Intent ends the recruiting process since participating schools are prohibited from recruiting student-athletes who have already signed letters with other participating schools.”

Hopefully they let the guys go for some celebration and photos.

 

Yeah, we had our official visit in October of senior year. All of the incoming recruiting class attended.  They dressed in uniform and got pictures, had a big dinner and a breakfast and attended a football game.  It was just a week before signing day.  Some schools announce signees, some don't.  My son's school does not, but I saw plenty posting welcomes to the kids who signed.

@TPM posted:

I guess that you can do whatever you wish but cannot post on social media until NLI is signed and into the school. 

Most coaches do not announce recruits until they set foot on campus, but some do. 

Not technically supposed to take pics with coach until you sign.

Not challenging you, but why is this a rule?

As if the coaches don't know who will be signing the NLIs the following week. This is one of those classic rules that makes people roll their eyes at the NCAA. Let the kids take the pictures and post. Putting it out there would probably get people more excited about signing day and incoming classes. 

@PABaseball posted:

Not challenging you, but why is this a rule?

As if the coaches don't know who will be signing the NLIs the following week. This is one of those classic rules that makes people roll their eyes at the NCAA. Let the kids take the pictures and post. Putting it out there would probably get people more excited about signing day and incoming classes. 

I don't know why, kids can do what they wish, coaches not so much.

I am assuming that signing an NLI doesn't guarantee the player will actually make it to campus the following year.  I have never seen a coach list there signees until they become students.

Their reasoning is that it puts undue pressure on a kid to sign the NL life. It goes back to football players who had multiple offers and coaches were showing up at their houses and their schools on signing day.  It is not for the ones who do it right it is for the ones who do it wrong. They were coaches out there that put a lot of pressure on kids and that is one of a have the dead periods.  

@TPM posted:

I don't know why, kids can do what they wish, coaches not so much.

I am assuming that signing an NLI doesn't guarantee the player will actually make it to campus the following year.  I have never seen a coach list there signees until they become students.

Um....Check Twitter. Tons of schools/programs tweet after NLI welcoming students in uniform from picture day. TONS! 

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