Thats exactly the point teach/rshard/etc....
You are just not smart enough to get it.
Whats next - Curt's favorite sexual positions? How about Curt's view on abortion?
LOL
He's got a big blowhole. He should just pitch. If he wants to preach - go to a church.
If a player can hit - He will show us!
If a player can pitch - He will show us!
Likewise about faith.
If a player can pitch - He will show us!
Likewise about faith.
Oh for HEAVEN'S SAKE!!! 
I KNEW not editing my post was a mistake and that it would be misinterpreted! I did not imply that SCHILLING is insincere or hypocritical. I happen to love the guy, media hound that he is notwithstanding! I am just sick and tired of athletes, in GENERAL, proselytizing in their moment of glorious victory. It just rarely comes across well to ME, even when I KNOW that the remarks are most likely heartfelt and sincere. A sporting event is not the Crusades.
By the way, I thank God EVERY day of my life...just so you know I'm NOT advocating secularism...GEEZ!
Thank you Orlando and Chill...you both said it better than I...
Oh, PS to Orlando: Schilling on "Good Morning America" today at the end of his interview: "Everyone get out and vote...VOTE BUSH!"
I KNEW not editing my post was a mistake and that it would be misinterpreted! I did not imply that SCHILLING is insincere or hypocritical. I happen to love the guy, media hound that he is notwithstanding! I am just sick and tired of athletes, in GENERAL, proselytizing in their moment of glorious victory. It just rarely comes across well to ME, even when I KNOW that the remarks are most likely heartfelt and sincere. A sporting event is not the Crusades. By the way, I thank God EVERY day of my life...just so you know I'm NOT advocating secularism...GEEZ!
Thank you Orlando and Chill...you both said it better than I...
Oh, PS to Orlando: Schilling on "Good Morning America" today at the end of his interview: "Everyone get out and vote...VOTE BUSH!"
Seems to me like every thing he says is smart.
PaMom,
Dont worry.
Thats nothing.
My guess is that Curt will soon be delighting us all with his views on euthanasia, capital punishment and the electoral college system.
LOL
His blowhole needs some duct tape IMO. He should go home - be with his family - enjoy his great team and individual performance - and shut up.
Dont worry.
Thats nothing.
My guess is that Curt will soon be delighting us all with his views on euthanasia, capital punishment and the electoral college system.
LOL
His blowhole needs some duct tape IMO. He should go home - be with his family - enjoy his great team and individual performance - and shut up.
Why don't you make a list of things, that have been approved, for him to talk about.
You just dont get it - do you?
Embarassing.
But I'll throw one out for you, Sybil.
How about Curt talks about baseball and the Red Sox. How about he talks about playing through injury - and his teammates.
What a novel concept - huh?
You are truly a dunce.
Embarassing.
But I'll throw one out for you, Sybil.
How about Curt talks about baseball and the Red Sox. How about he talks about playing through injury - and his teammates.
What a novel concept - huh?
You are truly a dunce.
PAMom....why am I not surprised? 
fact is, he won a ring, the yanks didnt,and he didnt have to shut them up, his team did it for him.your up 3-0 and cant win the series, if i were a yank i'd shutup too.
Question:
Do the losers give the same testimony when they lose or are they just not "favored sons"?
Who do they credit for their losing if the winners credit the Lord for winning?
Also keep in mind that baseball players, for whatever the reason, are some of the most superstitious players in the world. I have had a player in my own dugout who carried a Voodoo Doll and it sat in the dugout every time he pitched. I hear that his college coach already has a seat on the team bus all prepared for the "doll".
Isn't it also a funny that Schilling did not have this same "image" whule winning in Arizona ! Was he utilizing the media in a great moment , 1e this season in Boston?
Do the losers give the same testimony when they lose or are they just not "favored sons"?
Who do they credit for their losing if the winners credit the Lord for winning?
Also keep in mind that baseball players, for whatever the reason, are some of the most superstitious players in the world. I have had a player in my own dugout who carried a Voodoo Doll and it sat in the dugout every time he pitched. I hear that his college coach already has a seat on the team bus all prepared for the "doll".
Isn't it also a funny that Schilling did not have this same "image" whule winning in Arizona ! Was he utilizing the media in a great moment , 1e this season in Boston?
DaddyBo: There are at least two of us that gets it.
Itsinthegame: "The guy went out and pitched a baseball game. Big deal. He gets paid a lot of money to do just that. I find nothing admirable about that-other than the fact that he earned his keep-just like we all do."
Yeah, right, Its. No big deal at all. Nothing special. Done every day. Common occurance. Anyone can do it. Now tell us again what kind of worthless idiots the rest of us are.
Itsinthegame: "The guy went out and pitched a baseball game. Big deal. He gets paid a lot of money to do just that. I find nothing admirable about that-other than the fact that he earned his keep-just like we all do."
Yeah, right, Its. No big deal at all. Nothing special. Done every day. Common occurance. Anyone can do it. Now tell us again what kind of worthless idiots the rest of us are.
Itsagreatgame,
Wish I knew what you are talking about.
Noone said anything about anyone being worthless.
Wish I knew what you are talking about.
Noone said anything about anyone being worthless.
Its: the Mets had a terrible season. The Red Sox have endured 86 years of agony. It sounds like you have deeper issues than the fact that an athlete "calls his shot" then produces or doesn't. Big deal. Why get your drawers in a wad over something like that? There are too many issues in our world today with ramifications that affect the entire planet to get so crazy about Curt Schilling.
PAMom et al: It always amazes me that if a follower of islam or some other religion, philosophy, ism, or belief does or says something in line with his/her beliefs, no one ever says anything. But if a Christian gives thanks to God for his talents lots of people are ready to pounce on the individual and disparage them for mentioning God in a public forum.
It's like the players who ascribed to the religion of Islam and refused to stand during the national anthem. People may not have liked the athlete's actions, but all I saw on media coverage was total sympathy to the athlete's beliefs. (Personal note: if our country is so terrible, why are you here? Why not go back to your own country where you will be happier? Don't come here and expect us to change our way of life to accomodate you). Sorry, just a bit of digression. I really don't mind as long as everyone is treated equally.
Lastly, to All: PLEASE VOTE ON NOV. 2!
PAMom et al: It always amazes me that if a follower of islam or some other religion, philosophy, ism, or belief does or says something in line with his/her beliefs, no one ever says anything. But if a Christian gives thanks to God for his talents lots of people are ready to pounce on the individual and disparage them for mentioning God in a public forum.
It's like the players who ascribed to the religion of Islam and refused to stand during the national anthem. People may not have liked the athlete's actions, but all I saw on media coverage was total sympathy to the athlete's beliefs. (Personal note: if our country is so terrible, why are you here? Why not go back to your own country where you will be happier? Don't come here and expect us to change our way of life to accomodate you). Sorry, just a bit of digression. I really don't mind as long as everyone is treated equally.Lastly, to All: PLEASE VOTE ON NOV. 2!
With the understanding that discussions of faith in any form make some uncomfortable (see the use of the terms "deity" and "supreme being"), I will try to respond to some of the posters' points...hopefully without being too irritating. 
BULLFIGHTER...
God may not care about a particular sporting event's outcome, but he does care about His people, who are participating in a very significant event in their life...their career and passion.
ORLANDO...
God does have a plan for people's lives...some desire to find it and seek it more readily than others, and some do make mistakes in the way they vocalize their revelations. Human nature is still a mighty powerful force in one's everyday decision making.
CHILL...
Players hit/pitch an inanimate baseball...faith is an "unseen" personal relationship. Just because I show proper respect, use manners, treat her kindly, should I then be excluded (or even prevented) from telling my wife that I love her...even in front of other people?
Believe this or not, but a Christian's first love is (or at least should be) Jesus Christ. To expect one not to express that love in a public forum is not realistic.
PAMOM...
An act of gratitude is being displayed...usually simple as that (no Crusades).
ITSINTHEGAME...
If he talks of any length on any of those issues, he would probably want to express his faith in regards to how it has helped him...as he is asked often. I think that faith among some of his other teammates is probably a contributing factor to the great team chemistry that has been talked about so much...and for your personal benefit, I believe that was also a factor in some of the immediate past Yankee championship teams.
TRHIT...
Again, most cases, gratitude to God is being given for "giving me this opportunity", "helping me to perform"...the "thanks for giving us this victory" is a little bit of misspeak, as addressed earlier. Christian "losers" should, and do, give thanks for being in that position (all of life is a learning experience)...but the positive emotions always get more air time.
Regarding Arizona...not quite sure about that one but one explanation could be that spritual growth, like physical growth, is a maturing process...and Schill is "relatively young" as a Christian. Because of this, he may not have been as outspoken...and because of this, he may make some mistakes when speaking (like many 7 yr-olds).
Well, that was fun but, in conclusion...I understand that many do not understand exactly what different people's faiths might entail (I know I don't). We all go to sporting events yelling, making idiots of ourselves sometimes, over our allegiances...yet Christians are expected to keep quiet about the most important relationship we have? Please do not be offended that this will never happen.
BULLFIGHTER...
quote:...what you stated was not "fact".
I agree with the fact
quote:
As if God really cares about something so insignificant as a sporting event.
God may not care about a particular sporting event's outcome, but he does care about His people, who are participating in a very significant event in their life...their career and passion.
ORLANDO...
quote:
'in God's plan' for his contract to be somewhat richer. That sort of thing, as well as tantrums, trash talking, and/or headhunting by players who choose to advertise their status with God certainly does lead some of us to questions
God does have a plan for people's lives...some desire to find it and seek it more readily than others, and some do make mistakes in the way they vocalize their revelations. Human nature is still a mighty powerful force in one's everyday decision making.
quote:It does imply that! It may not be true but, by the definition of the word "imply", it does give that appearance.
Feeling uncomfortable with or questioning the practice of athletes' being publically demonstrative about their faith in no way implies that faith is less important to the questioner.
CHILL...
quote:
I agree...You don't have to talk the talk if you are walking the walk.
If a player can hit - He will show us!
If a player can pitch - He will show us!
Likewise about faith.
Players hit/pitch an inanimate baseball...faith is an "unseen" personal relationship. Just because I show proper respect, use manners, treat her kindly, should I then be excluded (or even prevented) from telling my wife that I love her...even in front of other people?
Believe this or not, but a Christian's first love is (or at least should be) Jesus Christ. To expect one not to express that love in a public forum is not realistic.PAMOM...
quote:Maybe you did not intend to imply but, by the placement of your initial post immediately after the "Schill a Christian" reference...and by the definition of "imply", you did.
I did not imply that SCHILLING is insincere or hypocritical.
quote:Proselytizing is the act of trying to convert...this, in almost all cases, is not what is going on.
proselytizing in their moment of glorious victory.
An act of gratitude is being displayed...usually simple as that (no Crusades).ITSINTHEGAME...
quote:I believe that his faith might be a big part of all those things you mentioned.
How about Curt talks about baseball and the Red Sox. How about he talks about playing through injury - and his teammates.
If he talks of any length on any of those issues, he would probably want to express his faith in regards to how it has helped him...as he is asked often. I think that faith among some of his other teammates is probably a contributing factor to the great team chemistry that has been talked about so much...and for your personal benefit, I believe that was also a factor in some of the immediate past Yankee championship teams. TRHIT...
quote:
Do the losers give the same testimony when they lose or are they just not "favored sons"?
Who do they credit for their losing if the winners credit the Lord for winning?
quote:
Isn't it also a funny that Schilling did not have this same "image" whule winning in Arizona ! Was he utilizing the media in a great moment , 1e this season in Boston?
Again, most cases, gratitude to God is being given for "giving me this opportunity", "helping me to perform"...the "thanks for giving us this victory" is a little bit of misspeak, as addressed earlier. Christian "losers" should, and do, give thanks for being in that position (all of life is a learning experience)...but the positive emotions always get more air time.
Regarding Arizona...not quite sure about that one but one explanation could be that spritual growth, like physical growth, is a maturing process...and Schill is "relatively young" as a Christian. Because of this, he may not have been as outspoken...and because of this, he may make some mistakes when speaking (like many 7 yr-olds).
Well, that was fun but, in conclusion...I understand that many do not understand exactly what different people's faiths might entail (I know I don't). We all go to sporting events yelling, making idiots of ourselves sometimes, over our allegiances...yet Christians are expected to keep quiet about the most important relationship we have? Please do not be offended that this will never happen.
PlayersDad,
It is a message board. I commented on my views concerning Curt Shilling and his big mouth. It is as simple as that.
There is no need to imply that I am a crazy person with "deeper issues". But if it makes you feel better - type away.
It is a message board. I commented on my views concerning Curt Shilling and his big mouth. It is as simple as that.
There is no need to imply that I am a crazy person with "deeper issues". But if it makes you feel better - type away.
Daddybo,
I understand your perspective. I just dont think it is appropriate for people to talk about God and baseball in the same breath.
To me - it is ridiculous and borderline sacriligious.
I am a Christian, and I would never demean my faith by implying that God cared about my ERA or batting average.
Just my opinion - which Im sure many wont agree with.
I understand your perspective. I just dont think it is appropriate for people to talk about God and baseball in the same breath.
To me - it is ridiculous and borderline sacriligious.
I am a Christian, and I would never demean my faith by implying that God cared about my ERA or batting average.
Just my opinion - which Im sure many wont agree with.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by itsinthegame:
Daddybo,
I just dont think it is appropriate for people to talk about God and baseball in the same breath.
QUOTE]
I know what you mean. I hate it when athletes say "Hi Mom" during an interview. Especially if its a baseball player. What are they thinking? This is a baseball interview.
Daddybo,
I just dont think it is appropriate for people to talk about God and baseball in the same breath.
QUOTE]
I know what you mean. I hate it when athletes say "Hi Mom" during an interview. Especially if its a baseball player. What are they thinking? This is a baseball interview.
Its...Believe me, there is nothing demeaning about God caring about your every success (or failure)...even your every waking moment (or sleeping one for that matter 
)
)quote:
I am a Christian, and I would never demean my faith by implying that God cared about my ERA or batting average.
I'm sure you didn't mean it like it sounds as I personally can't imagine God not caring about EVERY facet of my life. Whether that equates into having a good ERA or BA to me is irrelavent. I also agree that actions speak louder than words. The one aspect I liked about the Shilling interview was that he didn't pray that God would give him a win or do great, just strength to get through it.
My .02 worth.
DaddyBo: I'll say it again: At least two of us gets it.
PlayersDad, if you haven't seen negative coverage or references to the faith-based actions by players other than Christians, such as the Islamic faith (who, by the way, can be US born citizens), then I might suggest you've been a bit limited in your reading and viewing. There was even some public criticism over Green's refusing to play on Yom Kippur, given that the Dodgers were in a pennant race.
Further, I'm as confused as its (an accomplishment, that) over the comments on 'deeper issues' and 'go crazy'. We're having a discussion about athletes and their public comments regarding God, their faith, and/or religion. Grownups do that (have discussions, that is); it's allowed...nobody's breakin' a sweat here.
DaddyBo, I wasn't suggesting God did not have a plan for anyone's life. What I DID say was that (for example) Pujols' saying that God's plan included his turning down $6 mil a year because God wanted him to have $7 mil a year was an example of why fans (like myself) look askance at these appeals to the Diety. (Render unto Caesar....) I'm thinking he was convinced of that Plan by his minister who is in line for the tithe and that God was not at all involved.
If you want semantics, you inferred that; I was saying it was not implied. My point was simply to try to avoid the response of "ah, because you do not publically proclaim it, you are not a believer, and therefore can not understand". Nope.
I think a great deal more of people who live the Golden Rule than those who are seen to thank God. Sometimes these two characteristics are to be found in the same person. Alas, I have far too much experience with those who find the words infinitely easier than the principles.
Christianity is over 2000 years old; Protestantism, about 350. The remarks by athletes are an exceedingly recent phenomenon. With the importance some of you are placing on their testimonials, it's surprising the religion managed to last so long without them.
Further, I'm as confused as its (an accomplishment, that
) over the comments on 'deeper issues' and 'go crazy'. We're having a discussion about athletes and their public comments regarding God, their faith, and/or religion. Grownups do that (have discussions, that is); it's allowed...nobody's breakin' a sweat here. DaddyBo, I wasn't suggesting God did not have a plan for anyone's life. What I DID say was that (for example) Pujols' saying that God's plan included his turning down $6 mil a year because God wanted him to have $7 mil a year was an example of why fans (like myself) look askance at these appeals to the Diety. (Render unto Caesar....) I'm thinking he was convinced of that Plan by his minister who is in line for the tithe and that God was not at all involved.
quote:
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Feeling uncomfortable with or questioning the practice of athletes' being publically demonstrative about their faith in no way implies that faith is less important to the questioner.
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It does imply that! It may not be true but, by the definition of the word "imply", it does give that appearance.
If you want semantics, you inferred that
; I was saying it was not implied. My point was simply to try to avoid the response of "ah, because you do not publically proclaim it, you are not a believer, and therefore can not understand". Nope.I think a great deal more of people who live the Golden Rule than those who are seen to thank God. Sometimes these two characteristics are to be found in the same person. Alas, I have far too much experience with those who find the words infinitely easier than the principles.
Christianity is over 2000 years old; Protestantism, about 350. The remarks by athletes are an exceedingly recent phenomenon. With the importance some of you are placing on their testimonials, it's surprising the religion managed to last so long without them.
Daddybo,
Go preach to someone else please. Im not interested in your mini-cyber-sermon.
Go preach to someone else please. Im not interested in your mini-cyber-sermon.
amen to that!!
quote:
Originally posted by DaddyBo:
Well, that was fun but, in conclusion...I understand that many do not understand exactly what different people's faiths might entail (I know I don't). We all go to sporting events yelling, making idiots of ourselves sometimes, over our allegiances...yet Christians are expected to keep quiet about the most important relationship we have? Please do not be offended that this will never happen.:
You seem to have all the answers and you easily disagree with other Christians who doubt that God might have interest in a ball game or who wins the W.S. It seems to give you a sense of superiority to act as though you have some "inside information" on this topic. The fact is, you don't. You have a set of beliefs as do many other people in this country. Does everyone have the same set of beliefs? Of course not. Even within the same religion there are different interpertations of beliefs and scripture
You say that Christians are expected to keep quiet about their religion. Jeez, last time I checked this is a free country and you can certainly pray to any higher power of your choice. I think you're missing the point that some posters are trying to make here. First I hope you understand that Christians aren't singled out in this regard. I wouldn't want to see Muslims, Jews or anyone else discuss there faith in the context of a post game interview.
I honestly feel that there is something cheap about it. To me it comes across as just another commercial. And God does know, there are already too many commercials during the World Series. There are too many commercial breaks, too many in-game bottom of the screen programing notes, too many sponsors adding there names in places where it's distracting and too many camera shots of people in the stands who I don't recognize. I really just want to see the ball game and I want the players to talk about the game and their team wnen they're interviewed. No need for religion, politics, sexual preferences, enviromental concerns, boxers vs briefs....etc.
Frank & DaddyBo, its said he wouldn't "demean his faith". He in no way indicated anything about being demeaned or that God wasn't in the details as the two of you jumped on.
quote:
Originally posted by Teacherman:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by itsinthegame:
Daddybo,
I just dont think it is appropriate for people to talk about God and baseball in the same breath.
QUOTE]
I know what you mean. I hate it when athletes say "Hi Mom" during an interview. Especially if its a baseball player. What are they thinking? This is a baseball interview.
Teach,
Embarassing, again. What exactly does that have to do with the subject at hand?
Please - the least you can do is stay on topic.
Embarassing dude. Try again - but read carefully - think a little - and give it a go.
quote:
Originally posted by itsinthegame:
Teach,
Embarassing, again. What exactly does that have to do with the subject at hand?
Please - the least you can do is stay on topic.
Embarassing dude. Try again - but read carefully - think a little - and give it a go.
Its... now I know you believe in miracles still !!!!
H3,
Orlando and Caught Looking...
Great points and well taken. Orlando, the imply/infer is nitpicking on my part as they mostly go hand in hand, depending on whose giving/receiving. I would hope that you would see, after rereading my response re: Pujols, that I was agreeing with you to some extent (how people search and express their findings on God's plan).
Caught...the "better than you" card is offbase and is too easily played in these types of discussions, creating immediate chasms between posters. I did not mean to implyany superiority complex...my apologies.
Its...I was trying my best not to offend you. I will do as you ask.
Great points and well taken.
Orlando, the imply/infer is nitpicking on my part as they mostly go hand in hand, depending on whose giving/receiving. I would hope that you would see, after rereading my response re: Pujols, that I was agreeing with you to some extent (how people search and express their findings on God's plan). Caught...the "better than you" card is offbase and is too easily played in these types of discussions, creating immediate chasms between posters. I did not mean to imply
any superiority complex...my apologies.Its...I was trying my best not to offend you. I will do as you ask.
i believe the sox did shutup yankees fans???
Whew..........i didn't quite know what a can of worms my observation would open...
I simply noticed Schilling was not a God fearing soul "until" they reached the postseason... and from my personal perspective... [which i'm sure to some of you doesn't account for anything]he sure did pour it on thick once the post season was in full swing... I just thought he didn't seem to be tooooooo genuine...JMO
I just think that bringing relgion into sports should be private and not preached! AGain...JMO
I simply noticed Schilling was not a God fearing soul "until" they reached the postseason... and from my personal perspective... [which i'm sure to some of you doesn't account for anything]he sure did pour it on thick once the post season was in full swing... I just thought he didn't seem to be tooooooo genuine...JMO
I just think that bringing relgion into sports should be private and not preached! AGain...JMO
DaddyBo,
I think you did a good job of explaining what many believers, including some pro athletes, feel called to do - to learn and grow in their faith, and then to show and tell - show their love, and tell where it came from. If either of my boys ever are in the public eye for some accomplishment, I do expect that they will be thankful for God's blessings, since as a family we do believe that that's where we get all the good stuff from. And if they have it in their hearts or minds to speak of that thankfulness, I hope that they will not shy away from doing so because they think someone might be put off by their words.
I think you did a good job of explaining what many believers, including some pro athletes, feel called to do - to learn and grow in their faith, and then to show and tell - show their love, and tell where it came from. If either of my boys ever are in the public eye for some accomplishment, I do expect that they will be thankful for God's blessings, since as a family we do believe that that's where we get all the good stuff from. And if they have it in their hearts or minds to speak of that thankfulness, I hope that they will not shy away from doing so because they think someone might be put off by their words.
MN-Mom ...
as well as the strength to get through the not-so-good-stuff
From my personal perspective, I think that was part of what Curt Schilling was trying to say during the one post-game interview I saw. Though I realize some people figure these professionals are paid to play through the pain (in his case, what appeared to be a pretty painful ankle injury), playing under those physical circumstances, for me, is someting to be admired and respected. It was my perception that in the interview I saw, Mr Schilling was expressing his thanks for the ability to endure the discomfort.
I too appreciate what DaddyBo had to say and his efforts at trying to express the viewpoints of many of us "fundamentalist" or "evangelical" Christians, without trying to offend or appear "holier than thou". If that is the way he came across ... well, a lot is in the eye of the beholder ... and I know from personal communications with DaddyBo that that was not his intention.
The bottom line, it seems to me, is that no matter whether Mr Schilling was perceived to be talking "smack" about the Yankees or whether he was perceived to be talking insincere personal testimony ... he isn't going to "win" in this thread. But it has been interesting to read everybody's views ... no matter how they were stated ... on a very personal subject.
quote:
since as a family we do believe that that's where we get all the good stuff from
as well as the strength to get through the not-so-good-stuff
From my personal perspective, I think that was part of what Curt Schilling was trying to say during the one post-game interview I saw. Though I realize some people figure these professionals are paid to play through the pain (in his case, what appeared to be a pretty painful ankle injury), playing under those physical circumstances, for me, is someting to be admired and respected. It was my perception that in the interview I saw, Mr Schilling was expressing his thanks for the ability to endure the discomfort.
I too appreciate what DaddyBo had to say and his efforts at trying to express the viewpoints of many of us "fundamentalist" or "evangelical" Christians, without trying to offend or appear "holier than thou". If that is the way he came across ... well, a lot is in the eye of the beholder ... and I know from personal communications with DaddyBo that that was not his intention.
The bottom line, it seems to me, is that no matter whether Mr Schilling was perceived to be talking "smack" about the Yankees or whether he was perceived to be talking insincere personal testimony ... he isn't going to "win" in this thread. But it has been interesting to read everybody's views ... no matter how they were stated ... on a very personal subject.
BBM,
" as well as the strength to get through the not-so-good-stuff "
Absolutely. I didn't see Schilling's interview, but it would make sense that he would talk about being given the strength to get through that. What a special accomplishment for him not only to "play through the pain" as I'm sure many athletes have done many times, but to be able to focus and perform at the outstanding level he needed to at the same time. As a pitcher parent I could "feel his pain" while he was hanging in there in the final game he pitched, and OH MAN, I couldn't believe when two errors were made on what should have been the final out of his last inning. But he showed his typical class by not reacting to the errors, just keeping on doing what he needed to, and then congratulating his teammates as they walked off the field together. What an example for young pitchers!
" as well as the strength to get through the not-so-good-stuff "
Absolutely. I didn't see Schilling's interview, but it would make sense that he would talk about being given the strength to get through that. What a special accomplishment for him not only to "play through the pain" as I'm sure many athletes have done many times, but to be able to focus and perform at the outstanding level he needed to at the same time. As a pitcher parent I could "feel his pain" while he was hanging in there in the final game he pitched, and OH MAN, I couldn't believe when two errors were made on what should have been the final out of his last inning. But he showed his typical class by not reacting to the errors, just keeping on doing what he needed to, and then congratulating his teammates as they walked off the field together. What an example for young pitchers!
Personally, if it were my son I would expect him to thank his fans and co-workers, leaving G-d, politics and his mom out of the interview!
quote:
Originally posted by MN-Mom:
I didn't see Schilling's interview, but.....
No offense, but for someone who didn't see the interview you certainly have a strong opinion about it.
Tiger Paw Mom..........Concise,.......and very well put.... my thoughts exactly..
caught_looking,
Actually I have not expressed a strong opinion about Schilling's interview. I have made two posts in this thread:
One is addressed to Daddy Bo, starting with "I think you did a good job of explaining what many believers, including some pro athletes, feel called to do...". I shared with DaddyBo a little encouragement and support because I had noticed some critical posts addressed to him, and I also shared a personal opinion that I hope my boys would not be afraid to speak of their beliefs or thankfulness.
My second post was a reply to BBM, a nice baseball mom who had just addressed a post to me. I started by saying "I didn't see Schilling's interview, but it would make sense that he would talk about being given the strength to get through that." In other words, I wasn't there but the reports I've heard sound good to me. Then I shared a pretty strong opinion in favor of Schilling's great performance on the mound, which I did see and really enjoyed.
If you're still interested in analyzing what I've said, please read through my posts again. I don't think you will find any place where I have attacked or criticized anyone here, or tried to dictate how anyone else should conduct themselves in public or in private. I sent a message of support to DaddyBo, without attacking his critics. I said I hoped my boys would feel comfortable saying what was in their hearts (although I wouldn't be disappointed if they chose not to, depending on what they thought was fitting for the circumstance - it's their choice). And I publicly applauded a great athletic performance. Some posters I have had friendly discussions with in the past have expressed dissenting opinions, and I believe they have the right to do so.
Actually I have not expressed a strong opinion about Schilling's interview. I have made two posts in this thread:
One is addressed to Daddy Bo, starting with "I think you did a good job of explaining what many believers, including some pro athletes, feel called to do...". I shared with DaddyBo a little encouragement and support because I had noticed some critical posts addressed to him, and I also shared a personal opinion that I hope my boys would not be afraid to speak of their beliefs or thankfulness.
My second post was a reply to BBM, a nice baseball mom who had just addressed a post to me. I started by saying "I didn't see Schilling's interview, but it would make sense that he would talk about being given the strength to get through that." In other words, I wasn't there but the reports I've heard sound good to me. Then I shared a pretty strong opinion in favor of Schilling's great performance on the mound, which I did see and really enjoyed.
If you're still interested in analyzing what I've said, please read through my posts again. I don't think you will find any place where I have attacked or criticized anyone here, or tried to dictate how anyone else should conduct themselves in public or in private. I sent a message of support to DaddyBo, without attacking his critics. I said I hoped my boys would feel comfortable saying what was in their hearts (although I wouldn't be disappointed if they chose not to, depending on what they thought was fitting for the circumstance - it's their choice). And I publicly applauded a great athletic performance. Some posters I have had friendly discussions with in the past have expressed dissenting opinions, and I believe they have the right to do so.
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Originally posted by MN-Mom:
I shared with DaddyBo a little encouragement and support because I had noticed some critical posts addressed to him...
But you were supporting his statements which were in defense of Schillings interview. An interview that you haven't seen. Whatever. Some people are never going to understand how these types of comments can be intrusive to the ball game and "in your face", "shove it down your throat", shameless "religious flag waving".
luvthegame,
Thanks, that is JMO.
Now if you want Mr. Tiger Paw's version of where inner strength comes from (in the workplace), it's in the paycheck!
Thanks, that is JMO.
Now if you want Mr. Tiger Paw's version of where inner strength comes from (in the workplace), it's in the paycheck!