Pro,
Your comments about Clemson I didn't like, how many time do I have to repeat myself. I noticed that you stopped that right away, because you knew it would aggravate me more.
For someone who is in the heavy equipment business you sure know alot of terms used in the business, even PG figured out that one.
I don't buy the story that you are new here, yes Pro is new. If your friend told you about this site, he would tell you that you don't come on for the first time and start bashing people. I don't think there is one person here who could say that they registered for the first time, replied to a post using quotes in just 10 minutes. Did he tell you how to do that also? Will you stop insulting me.
..are you sure you're from earth?
I would like to get back on topic please. This personal stuff doesn't tell me squat about the draft!
I think that is an excellent post. Great way to view the experience.
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It seems to me that alot people confuse the question of "Draft v. College" with the question of "where will I make the most money".
To me, baseball and money are not the same thing. You get drafted, you sign, you play and you have life experiences that can never be found in any college. Is it right for everybody? Probably not. But if you don't want to hear your grandkids saying "Yeah Grandpa - coulda, woulda.." when you tell them you were good enough to get drafted but didn't sign and never played pro-ball, I'd suggest hitting the road with the team.
It's unlikely that you're going to get injured and lose the ability to learn accounting, or that your marketing chops will diminish over time.
I think that is an excellent post. Great way to view the experience.
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Originally posted by FormerObserver:
..are you sure you're from earth?
Some days I could not tell ya!
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Originally posted by baseonballs50:
Pro,
Your comments about Clemson I didn't like, how many time do I have to repeat myself. I noticed that you stopped that right away, because you knew it would aggravate me more.
For someone who is in the heavy equipment business you sure know alot of terms used in the business, even PG figured out that one.
I don't buy the story that you are new here, yes Pro is new. If your friend told you about this site, he would tell you that you don't come on for the first time and start bashing people. I don't think there is one person here who could say that they registered for the first time, replied to a post using quotes in just 10 minutes. Did he tell you how to do that also? Will you stop insulting me.
A little sensitive aren't we. GEEZ I didn't mean to insult your alma mater.
As to using the site, you don't exactly need a degree in computer science to figure it out.
I have a degree in Business & played NCAA BB as well as several friends & former team mates who played pro ball, some of whom have considerable time in the Majors. Is it really so hard for you to believe that with that background I might have picked up some of the jargon?
Chill out Bases. Were you this sensitive when you played @ Clemson?
Baseonballs50
Many of us follow Clemson...Just had an email yesterday about a Tiger player who will be going in the early rounds....The draft will be fun for so many of us to follow this June.
And, too, I wanted to share this story with you. It is the opposite end of the spectrum from Greene's experience...drafted out of hs.....and a very long, hard road to reach his dream:
Mission Accomplished
Many of us follow Clemson...Just had an email yesterday about a Tiger player who will be going in the early rounds....The draft will be fun for so many of us to follow this June.
And, too, I wanted to share this story with you. It is the opposite end of the spectrum from Greene's experience...drafted out of hs.....and a very long, hard road to reach his dream:
Mission Accomplished
In the article, Pond says
And that, I believe is the heart of this discussion. Every boy graduting this year, who plans on playing college ball WANTS to play pro ball. They have to make, and ultimately be comfortable with the decision about which is the most advantageous route for getting there. For some it will be college. For others signing and moving forward.
I'm like Chill. I can't wait for draft day so we can watch all these names "we know" from Hsbbweb get picked.
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"I could live with never playing in the big leagues as long as I knew I'd done everything I could."
And that, I believe is the heart of this discussion. Every boy graduting this year, who plans on playing college ball WANTS to play pro ball. They have to make, and ultimately be comfortable with the decision about which is the most advantageous route for getting there. For some it will be college. For others signing and moving forward.
I'm like Chill. I can't wait for draft day so we can watch all these names "we know" from Hsbbweb get picked.
Originally posted by MrandMrsBaseball:
"And that, I believe is the heart of this discussion. Every boy graduting this year, who plans on playing college ball WANTS to play pro ball."
I agree & would add that the reasons to go to College rather than sign would be:
1) Not drafted by a team with a good track record of developing Major League players.
2) Not offered "fair market value" by a team with a good Player Development program.
3) Not mature enough to go to work/live away from home because that's what Pro ball is. It may be your "dream" job, but it's still a J.O.B.
4) Not sure whether to be a Dr. Lawyer, Teacher etc. or play Pro ball.
"They have to make, and ultimately be comfortable with the decision about which is the most advantageous route for getting there."
Yes as long as "they" are the Players. Too many times I've seen kids that want to sign go to school to please Mom/Dad, their HS Coach or because their "Advisor" over promised how much $$$ he would get the kid.
"And that, I believe is the heart of this discussion. Every boy graduting this year, who plans on playing college ball WANTS to play pro ball."
I agree & would add that the reasons to go to College rather than sign would be:
1) Not drafted by a team with a good track record of developing Major League players.
2) Not offered "fair market value" by a team with a good Player Development program.
3) Not mature enough to go to work/live away from home because that's what Pro ball is. It may be your "dream" job, but it's still a J.O.B.
4) Not sure whether to be a Dr. Lawyer, Teacher etc. or play Pro ball.
"They have to make, and ultimately be comfortable with the decision about which is the most advantageous route for getting there."
Yes as long as "they" are the Players. Too many times I've seen kids that want to sign go to school to please Mom/Dad, their HS Coach or because their "Advisor" over promised how much $$$ he would get the kid.
Sorry everyone for getting off the track.
My very last words to Pro.
Going to definetly take your ADVICE and chill.
Come in Earth....
My very last words to Pro.
Going to definetly take your ADVICE and chill.
Come in Earth....
Sorry we got off on wrong foot Bases. Peace.
Sorry pro.
Hopefully you were trying to be cute with your last statement about the Special Olympics, but IMHO it's a very insensitive statement.
Frank
Hopefully you were trying to be cute with your last statement about the Special Olympics, but IMHO it's a very insensitive statement.
Frank
pro...
You're getting in deep!
I have a 23 yr old niece who has managed to graduate HS, get a job, and lives, with supervision, on her own. Special Olympics are for Special people, like April!
You're getting in deep!
I have a 23 yr old niece who has managed to graduate HS, get a job, and lives, with supervision, on her own. Special Olympics are for Special people, like April!
I thank all of you for your support here and will try to clarify a few things. I never said I lost my money I said if you live of the money you made it will not be there very long. Two I am very qualified to give advise because I lived it have been living it and will continue to do so. Three this forum is not about me or my business it is to help others! I am not nor will I ever solicate business here! I have made it very CLEAR that I never said every kid should go to College! But given the choice YES I push them that way when I can. Can we please stay on the topic with our eyes on the ball. I enjoy these forums, and MOST of the members.
[QUOTE] "Can we please stay on the topic with our eyes on the ball. I enjoy these forums, and MOST of the members."]
Excellent idea, TBross
Thank you!!
I'm enjoying your posts & learning!
Excellent idea, TBross
Thank you!!
I'm enjoying your posts & learning!
To all you Parents out there beware of the ADVISOR that promises a certain $ amount it can be very hard to deliver. A better way to do it is Set your own dollar amount before the draft and don't be disuaded by round picked set your goal and hold out for it. Waiting until after the draft is dangerous Emotions get involved! Promises are easy to make, be realistic in your goals, set them high, and work you tail off to achieve them.
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FYI to all,
Food for thought, Greene was NOT drafted out of HS, drafted Junior year in 13th round. So I guess he really would not have been anywhere sooner than he is now.
I thank the person who brought that to my attention.
Food for thought, Greene was NOT drafted out of HS, drafted Junior year in 13th round. So I guess he really would not have been anywhere sooner than he is now.
I thank the person who brought that to my attention.
Can we move on please? If everyone feels the need to have the last word, this will never end. That is why I started another thread!
These are comments from a FIRST ROUND pick:
He says a few years of seasoning in college, playing under coach Smoke Laval, made a world of difference in his baseball career. In high school, Hill was drafted in the seventh round by the Angels, but went to LSU.
Smart move? Last summer, the Blue Jays tabbed him in the first round and paid a signing bonus of almost $1.7 million.
“That was probably the best decision I’ve made, going to college and playing three years,” he said. “I learned so much about myself, mentally and physically. But, for the most part, mentally. Everyone’s going to handle themselves when they’re up. That’s not too hard. When you’re down, that’s when you’ve got to know how to do it and get out of that slump.”
He says a few years of seasoning in college, playing under coach Smoke Laval, made a world of difference in his baseball career. In high school, Hill was drafted in the seventh round by the Angels, but went to LSU.
Smart move? Last summer, the Blue Jays tabbed him in the first round and paid a signing bonus of almost $1.7 million.
“That was probably the best decision I’ve made, going to college and playing three years,” he said. “I learned so much about myself, mentally and physically. But, for the most part, mentally. Everyone’s going to handle themselves when they’re up. That’s not too hard. When you’re down, that’s when you’ve got to know how to do it and get out of that slump.”
