Don't do it

CPLZ, I tend to fall in your camp regarding the play. First of all, I thought the runner raised his HANDS and kind of pushed at the catcher, but maybe I'm wrong. But not only was the runner taunted by F bombs by the catcher, I saw the pitcher, who was backing up the play, come up to the downed runner and let loose on him. I don't know, but the way the play happened, and watching the Fla player's response, I was rooting for So Miss to win the game.

I watched it, and this is what I saw.
Runner charging towards home, Catcher catching the ball from the RF up the line about 10 to 12 feet.
No place for the runner to go, to faraway to slide.
Runner more are less just braced for the hit by lowering shoulder.
Catcher Braced also, then shoved mitt into runner.
pushing the elbow up in the air.

Runner could of tried to stop completely and just take the tag.
But tried to make it to the plate, Nothing malicious was intended by the runner.
Catcher seeing that the runner was not going to stop put on the hard tag, thats OK. Thats the price you pay for not stopping when you were clearly out.
But I don't blame either player, they were just playing hard baseball.

Overeaction yes, It was the heat of the battle.

EH

I looked for a video clip but could not find one. Here is a picture just after the play. I just think the catcher wanted to make sure the runner heard what he had to say

We replayed it a few times in slo-mo, and came to the conclusion that the catcher made a excellent textbook play, then ruined it's appreciation for everyone. The only thing the ump got right was the out call. I guess they will both be enjoying the CWS from the comfort of their living room. I too became a USM and Corky(slowest walk to the mound ever) fan after that.

EH,you nailed it. There sure is a lot of passion in the college game. Must see TV

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Originally posted by itsrosy:
CPLZ, I tend to fall in your camp regarding the play. First of all, I thought the runner raised his HANDS and kind of pushed at the catcher, but maybe I'm wrong. But not only was the runner taunted by F bombs by the catcher, I saw the pitcher, who was backing up the play, come up to the downed runner and let loose on him. I don't know, but the way the play happened, and watching the Fla player's response, I was rooting for So Miss to win the game.

Me too! That was the point where there became no doubt who I was cheering for!

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Originally posted by TRhit:
Don't agree !

I like that type of aggressiveness and response when the opposing player got run

My son played with the catcher at Clemson, was very quiet, I guess he's changed. Although I don't agree 100%, the catcher could have walked away with no comment but that's how you play the game folks at teh upper levels, be prepared, you don't get very far by being a nice guy on the field. Don't think that those scouts didn't take notice, and not in a negative way.

As far as the coach leading the charge, that's not his style, but he did teach my son most of what he knows, and it wasn't to be a nice guy when he takes the field.

As much as we wanted to see KO go to Omaha after his second year of being HC, He's been there, he'll get another chance someday as a HC, the SMU retiring and going to Omaha, is a special story.

Did you just catch the kid from Texas that hit a dinger in the bottom of the first? Talking smack to the TCU pitcher from 3rd all the way home, then from the plate back to the dugout.

Hope it comes back to bite him in the backside. What a punk.

This is on the bottom of Spizzlepops post's.
It fit's right here.

"There are two kinds of people in this game: those who are humble and those who are about to be." Clint Hurdle

These conversations are rarely one way, perhaps you/we are just seeing one end of the conversation? Perhaps the "punk" is just responding to another players provacation?

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These conversations are rarely one way, perhaps you/we are just seeing one end of the conversation? Perhaps the "punk" is just responding to another players provacation?

Exactly.

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These conversations are rarely one way, perhaps you/we are just seeing one end of the conversation? Perhaps the "punk" is just responding to another players provacation?

Come on...TCU is down 2-0 in the first and you think the pitcher is talking smack from the mound to the 5 hole hitter? That was all about Texas being ticked off the upstart TCU boys beating them last night and Texas "showing them".

Tx-Husker - You could be right, you could be wrong. I don't know, you don't either.

You used the word "punk." Its not a good term. Someone used it once to describe my son on a local HS message board. And while I won't try and act like a naive parent who doesn't have a clue...they used it after thinking they saw something that they interpreted 100% incorrectly. Thankfully, the coach of the other team (this was in HS) came on the board and corrected the record.

That won't happen here...but its a word I wouldn't ever use to describe someone in a less than 10 second clip with no context whatsoever.

Think about it.

I stand corrected...he may not be a punk. I don't know him. But he acted like a punk on national TV for 10 seconds and the camera's caught it.

Not to read into Spizzle's point when he started this thread, but what I thought he was getting at is act with respect...like someone is watching at all times because someone is. ESPN was tonight as well.

TX-Husker - I saw it too....I thought about rewinding the DVR to try to make out the words that were being spoken by the young man who hit the home run but decided against it..... I don't think he was saying "Have a nice day!" but maybe he was.

There is probably some history there or something said previously....don't know why you would have that much to say about a solo home run.

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don't know why you would have that much to say about a solo home run

Exactly. Act like you've been there and done it before...which Keyes has many times before by the way! According to a UT blog site, "He stood at home plate and held his bat a little too long for TCU's liking, and Keyes was doing some jawing with Lockwood and his teammates as he crossed home plate."

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Originally posted by Tx-Husker:
I stand corrected...he may not be a punk.

I am glad you took that back. You are an adult, these are kids.
This is the same thing like when a pitcher goes after a hitter, you have no clue what has or has not transpired before you saw something.

Personally, I don't think these players really care if ESPN has the camara on them or not. Right or wrong, this game is played with emotion, if you got to think about the world watching (except for those that count), you are never gonna get where you wanna get to.


That's just my opinion.

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...the catcher could have walked away with no comment but that's how you play the game folks at the upper levels, be prepared, you don't get very far by being a nice guy on the field...but he did teach my son most of what he knows, and it wasn't to be a nice guy when he takes the field.

To me, this is an accurate description of how the game is often competed at higher levels. The stories I could tell...many of us could tell...about the game inside the game that no one in the stands ever sees.

I like classy behavior and respect for the game as much as anyone. But there are times when an on-field reaction reflects an awful lot more than the naked eye sees. That can be a bad reflection on the player you see...or it could be a very appropriate reaction to something you don't know anything about.

All I can say about either of these incidents on TV is that these are two (three if you count the USM baserunner) very competitive individuals. Anything else is nothing more than a guess.