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I'm sure everyone has seen the notice of the Big 10's football cancellations. A good, if depressing, article about what its knock-on effects will be:  smaller D1 schools not getting big money to play P5 football games, thus having their athletic budgets slashed:

https://www.indystar.com/story...0-season/5409526002/

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The reasoning is all you need to know about decision makers doing what they think sounds right and not what makes sense. 

Penn State can't take a bus ride play Pitt (130 miles) because it's not safe? But they can hop on a plane and fly 1100 miles to Nebraska? 

If the virus is so bad why are they allowed to play conference opponents? Or is it not deadly enough for schools to keep making money? This is the problem and why so many people are skeptical of what they see and read from the media. Virus deadly when it makes sense, virus not deadly when it can be worked around. I don't care which side you're on but the hypocrisy is absolutely unreal in either direction. 

I'm not confident there will be football and it's possible it will be because of a virus that has a 99.9% recovery rate - if you even get it. Imagine somebody telling you that last year. 

@PABaseball posted:

The reasoning is all you need to know about decision makers doing what they think sounds right and not what makes sense. 

Penn State can't take a bus ride play Pitt (130 miles) because it's not safe? But they can hop on a plane and fly 1100 miles to Nebraska? 

If the virus is so bad why are they allowed to play conference opponents? Or is it not deadly enough for schools to keep making money? This is the problem and why so many people are skeptical of what they see and read from the media. Virus deadly when it makes sense, virus not deadly when it can be worked around. I don't care which side you're on but the hypocrisy is absolutely unreal in either direction. 

I'm not confident there will be football and it's possible it will be because of a virus that has a 99.9% recovery rate - if you even get it. Imagine somebody telling you that last year. 

I saw this on twitter:  Virus is only contagious during non conference football games.  

You are exactly right. No large gatherings, unless you are protesting, then it is ok.  The messages have been inconsistent from the start.  Generally, it has mostly been political and a lot of the public can see through that.   

@d-mac posted:

I saw this on twitter:  Virus is only contagious during non conference football games.  

You are exactly right. No large gatherings, unless you are protesting, then it is ok.  The messages have been inconsistent from the start.  Generally, it has mostly been political and a lot of the public can see through that.   

Yes, but what can we do about it?  You should see the “plan” for our local schools. The high school isn’t even going to be used for high school aged students.  They will be in the intermediate building and are only permitted to attend every other day. The intermediate students will be in the high school building every day. WHO GETS TO DECIDE WHO IS MORE IMPORTANT?  With each passing day, I become more appalled. 
America, you asked for it. Is this really what we want?  To paraphrase:  Everyone is equal. But some people are more equal than others. 

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@PABaseball posted:

The reasoning is all you need to know about decision makers doing what they think sounds right and not what makes sense. 

Penn State can't take a bus ride play Pitt (130 miles) because it's not safe? But they can hop on a plane and fly 1100 miles to Nebraska? 

If the virus is so bad why are they allowed to play conference opponents? Or is it not deadly enough for schools to keep making money? This is the problem and why so many people are skeptical of what they see and read from the media. Virus deadly when it makes sense, virus not deadly when it can be worked around. I don't care which side you're on but the hypocrisy is absolutely unreal in either direction. 

I'm not confident there will be football and it's possible it will be because of a virus that has a 99.9% recovery rate - if you even get it. Imagine somebody telling you that last year. 

But if we'd all wear masks then there would be a football season. Whether masks work or not, it ain't gonna make a difference on whether there is a football season.

It is also safer for BC to fly to Tallahassee than for UF to drive to Tallahassee on a bus... for 90 minutes

But if we'd all wear masks then there would be a football season. Whether masks work or not, it ain't gonna make a difference on whether there is a football season.

It is also safer for BC to fly to Tallahassee than for UF to drive to Tallahassee on a bus... for 90 minutes

I'll gladly wear a mask every time I'm out in public, same as I have the last four months. That is a reasonable recommendation. But don't tell me it's not safe to drive to drive two hours to play a football game but it's okay to take a 3 hour flight with a connection. 

Well, I am hopeful that this will start a new lasting trend in College football:  no more money games.  It is ridiculous for these top tier programs to pay weaker teams to get beat up on.  Penn State and Pittsburgh is one thing, but Alabama playing Georgia STate, Kent State, UT Martin is absolutely ridiculous.  Let them play one team that is not P5 (and NOT FCS), and keep the rest to real teams..... Not that I don't agree with what y'all are saying as far as Covid risk.

 

@Viking0 posted:

Well, I am hopeful that this will start a new lasting trend in College football:  no more money games.  It is ridiculous for these top tier programs to pay weaker teams to get beat up on.  Penn State and Pittsburgh is one thing, but Alabama playing Georgia STate, Kent State, UT Martin is absolutely ridiculous.  Let them play one team that is not P5 (and NOT FCS), and keep the rest to real teams..... Not that I don't agree with what y'all are saying as far as Covid risk.

 

Wait and see what happens to to the athletic budgets (and the baseball programs) at Georgia State, Kent State and UT Martin. Those money games are worth between 1 & 2 million dollars a year to those mid-majors and that money funds a lot of spring sports at those schools. The dominoes are starting to fall. 

@PABaseball posted:

I'll gladly wear a mask every time I'm out in public, same as I have the last four months. That is a reasonable recommendation. But don't tell me it's not safe to drive to drive two hours to play a football game but it's okay to take a 3 hour flight with a connection. 

Agree completely.  It's ridiculous.  They should have said that they would only play in-state teams, or something. 

I’ve thought all along football would be tough to play due to the physical aspects of line play and pileup tackling on running plays. Then you have game officials that are older. What is overlooked is how many game officials are older than forty-five. But the non conference aspect is absurd. If the conferences said no games that require plane travel we would know it’s about keeping travel expenses down. 

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We'll know very soon here in GA the relationship between the spike in positive tests vs. hospitalizations / deaths.  My family knows of several positive tests (friends) in our area that were asymptomatic / mild symptoms / positive for antibodies although they had no idea they had the virus. I understand the concern, and am very sympathetic to all affected, but perhaps colleges are acting too soon? That's my hope anyway, and sure pray that's the way it turns out. My ER nurse friend is pretty sure we have all been exposed / will be exposed.

College football has been moving to a P5 and a few indies ND/Boise and maybe a couple others for some time.  Eventually a tournament will pay them a bonanza and if they privatize it they might even pick off a slice of the gambling and video game dough.  There are billions out there to split 60 ways.

The virus might be the first step to the breakaway.  They have to resolve the March Madness issue but if they set aside a certain number of entries for the mid-majors like 15 or so they can do it.

From there they separate out Football to solve paying players.  Basketball won't have that problem because the really big time player will arrive in the fall, chase girls for a couple of months and then play until March and be gone.  For Title IX purposes they'll kill all but a handful of sports.

The only problem with this is the conference TV networks and how much content they might need.  That might keep a few sport in business.

We'll know very soon here in GA the relationship between the spike in positive tests vs. hospitalizations / deaths.  My family knows of several positive tests (friends) in our area that were asymptomatic / mild symptoms / positive for antibodies although they had no idea they had the virus. I understand the concern, and am very sympathetic to all affected, but perhaps colleges are acting too soon? That's my hope anyway, and sure pray that's the way it turns out. My ER nurse friend is pretty sure we have all been exposed / will be exposed.

Regardless of how I feel about the decision college starts next month. College football practice starts in three weeks. Decisions have to be made.

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