ESPN Choices

bigger....

Irvin is a jerk and the whole world knows about it. They are afraid to fire him. He did his deeds while he was playing football and the NFL didn't know how to handle it.

Harold, on the other hand, is an employee who "allegedly" did some things with other employees at the workplace. We should wait how this thing plays itself out. I'm a big fan of his and I'm disapponted that this has happened to him.

The NFL, in my opinion, buries stuff about players because there are so many problems with so many of them. You can violate their "league" drug rules at least 3 times and then no one is certain as to what the penalty might be.

ESPN, on the other hand, is a huge division of a major public corporation and they don't need the negative publicity.

Is anybody else happy with who is on Baseball Tonight these days? I never really liked Kruk, I really dont like Hershiser and Tino. They both arent fluid like HR was. I guess i'll have to get used to it..

I thought Harold was pretty good and likeable........Kruk isn't bad, Orel Hershiser is okay, but he is excellent as an analyst during live games.....Tino needs some work.

We don't really know what happened with Harold; we can all only speculate based on what we have read and heard. My guess is that he must have exhibited a pattern of behavior that can be considered as sexual harrassment. I highly doubt ESPN would fire him over an allegation.

Michael Irvin is another story.

Have to agree with Grateful.. HR is saying in public that it was just one instance.....and only a hug.

Well....that's difficult to believe......he has his rights to.....and ESPN must have some really good Human Resource specialists and lawyers on staff....they had to have investigated the allegation(s).......think there is more to it then what HR is telling the media.

As a former LR Mgr....my job was on the line if I didn't investigate every complaint...objectively...and termination was always considered the "capital offense".....the evidence had to be there...verified....before anyone lost their job....despite postings on another thread asserting otherwise...no one is fired (in major corporations certainly)...on just say so.....and employees in good standing, or with longevity....were usually offered leaves, suspensions, and assistance.....because.....litigation works both ways....

It's all very unfortunate....HR was one of my favorite broadcasters.....

In the late 80's and early 90's, as ESPN exploded, apparently, at least according to one book, harassment was a HUGE problem and the management at that time, did not handle it well. Now, it could well be a knee-jerk over reaction, or it could be something HR had coming. I sure hope it was all a misunderstanding, b/c Tino and Destrades are
BRUTAL!!!!

There is another card yet to be played, I think---no black baseball guys now on the set---I don't like it and it should not matter in the least but I think it will be rear its head shortly

This entire thing is a shame because he was the best baseball guy that they had, in my book anyway

I don't care if they're black, white, green, or orange--just as long as they know the game and have a great presentation/personality. Personally, I'd like to see them feature Jeff Brantley more in HR's slot.

JT...you may not care...but ESPN, and other major corporations do....I understand what you are saying, and I couldn't agree with you more...but TR has a point....as you know...it's called affirmative action......and the television end of the entertainment industry does seem to work at it.....

....and because of affirmative action, et al....in addition to private litigation...one has to think that HR was given every opportunity to a fair hearing/investigation prior to termination.

Reynolds was the best ESPN had.

Kruk is ok,brantley is a complete moron,destrade just seems to have no clue.

I do not condone what Reynolds did,if he did it,but the quality of ESPN has and is dropping like a rock into the sea.

ps.who else is sick of the NFL coverage that is on ESPN 24/7,yet you cant hear about baseball during BASEBALL SEASON!

I havent watch BBTN since harold left.

To me ESPN is no longer a true sports network--they are now more of an entertainment network

agreed.Im sick of drag racing,poker/darts,paintball,etc.Who fricken cares about that?And cut the NFL live crud for 2 minutes please!

And if Harold did harrass someone,he deserved this.That being said we live in a much different era.Now,if you hit your child,its abuse.If you hug a kid,you are looked at as a pedophile.I wonder what really happened.

Since baseball is considered our national pastime, there should be a national organization to promote the game at all levels.

Baseball at all age levels is being played in this country year round. Televise baseball during baseball season.

Oops, there already is a national organization promoting baseball.

Orestes Destrada is actually pretty good, in my opinion.

BOBO

Are you suggesting a communistic/socialistic country ??????

Are you saying that you would be opposed to such a thing?

I would like to know your reasoning, if you would indulge me.

It isn't HR or ESPN related but I'd be interested in your logic.

Harold Reynolds is the man when it comes to baseball tonight. Realeasing him until this alligation is over is the right thing to do. I do agree that Hersh and Tino are not the right answer for all of us baseball fanatics. Tino is not in sync with what he should be saying. Hersh is good at talking about pitching and that is about it. Be patient everyone, I have this real good feeling that HR will be back.

BOBO

I happen to like our great country the way it is

You thinking is a "sick" thinking---why do you have this grudge?

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Originally posted by futurecatcher27:
agreed.Im sick of drag racing,poker/darts,paintball,etc.Who fricken cares about that?

I'm with you on this one. More baseball during the season. I'd like to see more variety of teams shown. I may be alone on this but I want to see the Royals, Devil Rays and Pirates etc play once in awhile.

After all some of those players may belong to HSBBW families.

Promoting baseball was almost a natural thing in this country. Games were all on free TV and they were on at times when kids could still be awake.

There needs to be some common sense in this country where our national pastime is more available to the youth of this nation.

Sports networks like ESPN should be promoting sports rather than poker or food eating contests.

All the poker on tv is to lure people, young and old, into gambling. I want to see sports on tv and by that I mean athletic competitions. Yesterday they had the Rock, Paper, Scissors National Championships on ESPN from Las Vegas. They said they had finally invented a sport that you could participate in while smoking and drinking.

I miss Harold.

I think ESPN should be forced to show a minimum of 2 games per team,thats all I ask.

How many times must we see Cleveland play on ESPN?And outside of the NYY and BOS,nobody gives a rats rear about the 2.

Division race games should be on tv(LAA vs OAK this week,etc)

sigh,espn is just wilting like a dead rose

I think they should show whichever games result in greater revenues and thus greater returns for their shareholders. That is their one and only job. If you don't like it, start your own company. This is America and that's how it works.

Midlo

I have to agree with you--- there is enough baseball around--you can buy the MLB package and get a DISH--I get the Mets, Yankees, Red Sox and Atlanta and then when you bring in FOX and ESPN you get more coverage--we even get minor league baseball on two separate channels-- and I dont have the MLB package--if you want it you can find it and the suits at ESPN are doing what they need to make money--incidently you can buy a package and watch the games on the internet--I aint no genius and if I can find these things others should be able to--work a little bit harder and it will happen

so in essence midlo,you would like to see them continue to force-feed ESPN watchers the Red Sox and Yankees,which they do without a doubt.

America isnt perfect I guess?

I,and about every american baseball fan of the other 28 teams,would like to see the games that matter out side of the east coast,where teams can buy a championship.

and their one and only job is to please the viewers.There is no such thing as ESPN if we dont watch or support it!!!!!

future - the Yankees have spent close to $1 billion in the last 5 years.

World Series championships during that time - 0

With Arod there - expect another year of the same.

sure,we could buy packages,but for the fan,like myself,who just wants to watch a pro game a few times a week on a station like espn,shouldnt be forced to watch or only hear about roughly 2 teams.

Id like to hear more abou teams like the bluejays,angels,dodgers,d-backs,tigers.I want to hear about division races,and I think ESPN needs to appeal to more then just the casual fan.If it werent for the east coast numbers population wise,I dont think they would have as much success as they do.

thats a great point,but i think you understand my views.Name another team,outside of the redsox,that could afford to buy huge FA each offseason.Meanwhile,baseball allows the demise of once great franchises like the royals and pirates.

future,

You cannot fight the louts that control the media.

Its only about money for them.

You have to find another way to see the type of stuff that you want to see.

You know what is funny--I am in RED Sox . Yankee and Mets territory and very rarely do we see them on ESPN---you get them because they draw ratings--they have their own channels here in their hometown market

And people do not want to watch losing teams

Future catcher, the reason they show the Red Sox and Yankees whenever they can is because those games draw the higher ratings, meaning more people want to see that game than the one you might want to see. It's not their job to please the minority. They are a for-profit outfit. They sell advertising for a living.

If you want to see the game you want to see, recruit a couple million more like yourself and you'll get it. But obviously ESPN can't please all of us one at a time.

Oh I know thats why they do it,and population has alot to do with it.Im just saying outside of those two states,people could really care less about the red sox and yankees.And its not like ESPN only talks about them on baseball tonight,its sportscenter,etc.

Its overfed,and I think you can agree with me there

Overfed for my personal tastes, sure. But believe me, they study the heck out of what gets their ratings up and what gets them down. Most MLB teams take care of their local faithful via local cable telecasts. For a national audience, the truth is the Yankees and the Red Sox draw the biggest audiences because they have followings all over the country. Love 'em or hate 'em, folks watch.

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Originally posted by bkekcs:

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Originally posted by futurecatcher27:
agreed.Im sick of drag racing,poker/darts,paintball,etc.Who fricken cares about that?

I'm with you on this one. More baseball during the season. I'd like to see more variety of teams shown. I may be alone on this but I want to see the Royals, Devil Rays and Pirates etc play once in awhile.

After all some of those players may belong to HSBBW families.

Way too much Red Sox and Yankees. 5 games next week between them.

on the bright side,my angels improve to 3-0 while on ESPN

(vs Cle,Bos,Chw)

check this out:

www.freeharoldreynolds.com

probably not going to turn any heads, but some of the comments are hilarious. It's an online petition by the way.