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@adbono posted:

Agree with Maddux 100% on this issue

Yeah. Also 0-2 contact is still the best contact a pitcher can get.



Sure you want to avoid a too fat pitch and ideally throw a bit off the plate bit even if you throw a FB down the middle the league wOBA on that this year was .234 (worst overall woba this year in mlb among qualified hitters is .254 and league average like .320) so messing over the middle 0-2 is not that terrible especially since hitters aren't geared to do damage, maybe even sitting off speed.

Yeah it kinda sucks if you give up a weak single in an 0-2 count but as long you don't get bombed I wouldn't bother a pitcher with that, definitely better than getting to a full count after 0-2.

@adbono posted:

Agree with Maddux 100% on this issue

Oldest pitched in HS before pitch count.  Soph year he'd get ahead 0-2 or 1-2 and we'd throw 1 or 2 pitches in the other batters box.  I'm like "what the heck are we doing, the batter has 0 chance of hitting anything you throw for a strike".  Identify the 2/3 high school batters in each line up that can hurt you.  Pitch to them but still trust your stuff........the others, go right at them, and if you can get them to ground out to 2nd or SS on the 1st pitch, that much better.  It was all about mind set "you are better than them, no need to waste pitches that you may need to the better hitters in the line up.  He talked to his coach about 1/2 way through the year (I knew better than that ) and his approach changed. Averaged less than 100 pitches a start the rest of his 37-3 career........ with never a arm issue (I told him it was because he didn't thrown hard enough and threw a "football curve" instead of a real curve).  But it paid for a college education................

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