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For those contemplating the Showcase circuit, my 2019 just finished attending HF and SB events in California. My humble takeaways and observations:

Sacramento Headfirst was busy, full of talks, and longish ones for how hot it was.  Talks were helpful but more about keep trying, don't give up, blah, blah, blah.  My son is over those, wants to just get to work.  The video stuff HF now offers we ignored.  By this point for a rising senior interested in d3, the coaches want to see the kids in person.  If contacts with videos haven't already been made by now, in my opinion, new video for a 2019 isn't going to help much.  2020 could be an entirely different matter, but if you're already filming your kid, and you or they can handle imovie, you can make your own video.  HF Showcase the first morning included throwing velo, 60, fielding exhibition, BP round, and hitting velo off a T, all watched by all Coaches.  Then one game in the afternoon of the first day, and two games on the second day. (Prior years each kid had four games: exhausting by end of second day).  Time in between games to walk around and seek out coaches.  Hardest part of event was getting son to approach coaches.  Fun times HS kid turns into monk who's taken a vow of silence.  Unreal.

Showball: very fast paced format.  Showcase like HF (and probably every other event) in the morning and early afternoon of first day, followed by a half hour where there's a meet and greet with HC's.  This worked way better for son than HF approach because EVERYONE was doing the same thing at the same time.  Would have helped if it had been a little longer period of time, but son got to meet the coaches he wanted to meet and reinforce his interest.  They were polite, or super encouraging depending on school, and all coaches he talked to said they'd make sure they watched him the next day.  Day 2 had two games, with a couple hours between. relaxed but fast paced format.  Stunningly beautiful day.  75-80, no clouds, nice, cooling breeze. Coaches umpired as they did at HF.  Half as many coaches at Showball, but all HC's.  Can talk to them if you're assertive, but not as easy as the meet and greet format. Good mix of Ivy's and "high" academic d3s.

Both events had batters start 1-1, and if you walk on the first aB you're supposed to only get fastballs after that.

Twice as many coaches at HF as at Showball, but the Showball event had a much higher proportion of high academic schools.  Frustrating that you can't get all the ivies in one place in the early summer.  I'm not sure what spots will be left in August when they do all meet together for a showcase in SoCal.

Son's clear favorite was Showball, but he hit better there, so take that for what it's worth.   Happy to try to answer any questions.

PS, old adage here that you will know when they're interested is a cliche but completely accurate.  Six UVs initiated by coaches, all D3. (Send us your transcripts, scores, we want to do a pre read asap and get you on campus, etc. etc.).  No D1 conversation other than son saying, "Hi, my name is Mickey Mantle. Watch me run."  D1 Coaches: "Nice to meet you.  Good luck."

"Don't be mean now because remember: Wherever you go, there you are..." Buckaroo Banzai

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We are at Stanford now. First session. I don’t think d3 kids need to do what we’re doing but we wanted as many options as possible among the higher academic schools, and these three events provided that exposure. Another reason we did this is because we live in Hawaii and we haven’t been able to do the whole summer travel ball thing. Son was able to be seen by about 35 different schools that were target schools of his, most of them twice. 

My 2019 son went to the HF in August as a rising Jr.  He met many D3 coaches and nothing really happened other than emails and occasional postcards from coaches, etc.  As soon as the Spring college season ended, the D3 coaches started calling and emailing frequently to know son's summer schedule.  He is in constant contact with 4-5 Nescac coaches which I don't understand because his GPA and SAT scores are below the college averages.  We are going to HF again end of July and some are asking him to come for a visit.  However, I am reluctant to make the trip unless the pre-read comes back positive.  I have heard the D3 schools don't have a lot of pull.  Some said son is at the top of their board - but I am sure they say that to many kids and even if it is true, can they really get a kid with below average GPA and SAT score in?

DiamondsRmomsBF posted:

 I have heard the D3 schools don't have a lot of pull.  Some said son is at the top of their board - but I am sure they say that to many kids and even if it is true, can they really get a kid with below average GPA and SAT score in?

I can't answer your question, but was hoping you could clarify something.  Remember that almost half the kids admitted to any school are below the GPA and SAT medians (and averages can be misleading at schools that offer scholarships to attract some high achievers).  Is you son at least sitting comfortably somewhere within the school's 25th percentile?  Between the 25th and 50th?  (I ask because I also want to know what schools my son ought to aim for given his grades and test scores, so I'm hoping for some knowledgable answers to your question.)

His SAT score is between 25th percentile and 50th.  He is planning to retake it again.  His GPA is below the average according to Prepscholar.  He goes to a high academic high school, taking some APs and Honor's,  and some of the coaches said coming from the West Coast helps.  He submitted the transcript to some schools so I'll get a better understanding after the pre-read.  How long would a pre-read take?

DiamondsRmomsBF posted:

His SAT score is between 25th percentile and 50th.  He is planning to retake it again.  His GPA is below the average according to Prepscholar.  He goes to a high academic high school, taking some APs and Honor's,  and some of the coaches said coming from the West Coast helps.  He submitted the transcript to some schools so I'll get a better understanding after the pre-read.  How long would a pre-read take?

In our limited experience pre-reads come back fast... A few business days at most. 

I'll try to get to each question.  Please note this is my experience with a 2017 D3 journey, and what is a current D3 journey with my 2019.

I think colleges will take note of 2020s and will stay in touch via email and other means kind of casually until AFTER their spring 2019 season.  Then they'll be more eager with kids who've sent them video that they like, or kids they took note of the prior summer and fall.  But you won't know where you really stand with them until this time of year at the earliest, that is, summer before Senior year.  But I don't think it's a bad idea to get in front of coaches before Jr. year.  Some may think that's overkill for a d3 search, and I have even wondered that.  I think it just depends, and sometimes you can't figure it out until after you look back on it.

re: coach's pull with admission.  It just depends on the school.  I know some schools that have pull for one or two kids whose scores and grades are at 25% or even lower.  Rare but it can happen if you're the one kid they really want. Other coaches whose schools are at the absolute highest end academically say they have no pull, which to me means a kid would need to hit the 50th percentile or higher for grades and SAT/ACT scores.  My take is that the SAT/ACT scores carry more weight than GPA.  It's also been my experience that these high academic coaches are very clear about what score a player needs to be in the mix.  Coaches who have talked to my 2019 in the past few days have been very clear.  NOTE: there is a brand new concordance between the ACT/SAT scores and that concordance will be used for 2019 admissions.  I'm a little concerned that coaches and admissions offices may not yet be on the same page regarding what the threshold score is.  That's not a question that I think a kid can ask very clearly, but the answer will be critical to kids with a borderline score.  Where a 32 used to work, a 33 on the ACT may now be necessary.  I'm working on finding the answer to this; maybe someone else has clearer info?

Pre reads this time of year,  which is when they first start for baseball kids (and maybe all 2019 athletes) should take a week or two.  Timing is based on how close the coach is with admissions officers and how busy the coaches are.  Again, this is a school to school issue.   My 2017 got his prereads within two weeks from all the schools interested in him two years ago.

I'm not sure what to make of the move from 4 games to 3.  I know my kid wasn't as tired after the event, but I'm also not sure he got the exposure I hoped for.  That's on him as much as anyone else though.  He was SLOW getting out of the gates at that event.  Was much more comfortable at Showball.  I'm not sure the # of games had anything to do with it.

 

For those who Pm'd me, I will answer shortly.   Thanks!!

 

Newbie question:  What, exactly, is required for an admissions pre-read?  Just grades and test scores, or does an athlete need to submit the entire package (recommendations, essays, etc.--at some schools that is a fairly big lift)?  How soon does my 2020 need to have his act more or less fully together on applications?  

In case it varies by division, I'm mostly wondering about high academic D3 schools, although curious about D1 as well.

And do coaches typically tell you whether they think they can get a recruit over the hump, or are they more likely to just tell you to wait-and-see?

Coaches have never said anything to us in advance of what admissions tells them. I’m not sure I’d trust a coach who did. As has often been said on the site,  admissions offices admit and coaches coach (and recruit).

While the extra stuff—recs, essays— may be critical for some regular, non athletic  admits, baseball IS the extra stuff for our boys. That’s oversimplifying it but you get the idea. That doesn’t mean a kid can just sleepwalk through the rest of the app. The rest needs to be done well but it’s not gonna likely be a gamechanger. 

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