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Chico Escuela posted:
RJM posted:
Chico Escuela posted:
RJM posted:
 

You must have missed the part where I stated explain the level of courses you’re talking. 

A 3.7 at one high school might be the same as a 4.2 or a 4.7 in another high school. It makes stating weighted GPA useless.

Your statement is, word for word, also true of unweighted GPAs.  Their import varies from school to school.  An unweighted GPA conveys no additional information, no more pertinent information--it's just a different number. The relevant info is what scale you are using, the rigor of the schedule and the quality of the school.  Unweighted GPAs convey literally no additional information about any of those factors.

You’re arguing while ignoring a couple of posts back. I advised when asked GPA state unweighted with what level courses are being taken. For example, my son responded with his unweighted and that he was in the gifted program and taking four AP courses. The HA’s he spoke with got it. 

My kid’s high school weighted privately for class rank but not publicly. Both kids finished higher in class rank than students with higher GPA due to their honors and AP courses. When they went through the graduation parade line GPA was not mentioned. It was done by class rank ...

Park, Park, Park, Park, Chang, Chang, Chang, Chang, a few more Parks and Changs then my kids. As my son joked he was third in his demographic. 

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CTbballDad posted:

Son was recruited by a couple of Ivy schools and we had to recalculate his weighted GPA to unweighted.  Certainly, that's not the singular metric they use, as the transcript and school profile helps to get a better understanding of each GPA.

That's really interesting.  My oldest applied to Ivies as a non-athlete, but weighted GPA was the only number ever requested or mentioned.  I'm thinking this is going to vary by school applied to, by coach, maybe even by the HS a kid comes from.  My son will have to provide whatever he's asked for (obviously), but to get an unweighted GPA he'd need to do the calculation himself, because his HS never calculates it.

Chico Escuela posted:
CTbballDad posted:

Son was recruited by a couple of Ivy schools and we had to recalculate his weighted GPA to unweighted.  Certainly, that's not the singular metric they use, as the transcript and school profile helps to get a better understanding of each GPA.

That's really interesting.  My oldest applied to Ivies as a non-athlete, but weighted GPA was the only number ever requested or mentioned.  I'm thinking this is going to vary by school applied to, by coach, maybe even by the HS a kid comes from.  My son will have to provide whatever he's asked for (obviously), but to get an unweighted GPA he'd need to do the calculation himself, because his HS never calculates it.

Just read some of the email exchanges my son had.  We sent along his weighted GPA and 2 coaches asked what his non-weighted GPA was .  Total guess here, but the coaches probably didn't want to get into what was our weighted calculation vs other HS, so distill it down to a non-weighted number.  Admissions is another story, as our HS only has weighted and no class rank.

RJM posted:
Chico Escuela posted:
RJM posted:
Chico Escuela posted:
RJM posted:
 

You’re arguing while ignoring a couple of posts back. I advised when asked GPA state unweighted with what level courses are being taken. For example, my son responded with his unweighted and that he was in the gifted program and taking four AP courses. The HA’s he spoke with got it. 

My kid’s high school weighted privately for class rank but not publicly. Both kids finished higher in class rank than students with higher GPA due to their honors and AP courses. When they went through the graduation parade line GPA was not mentioned. It was done by class rank ...

Park, Park, Park, Park, Chang, Chang, Chang, Chang, a few more Parks and Changs then my kids. As my son joked he was third in his demographic. 

I don't think I'm ignoring anything.  You said "There isn’t a standard for weighted GPA. When you mention weighted GPA with a coach you might as well be talking a foreign language."  I said you may be right about what coaches want (still early in the process for my son).  But that seems to me like a really strange preference.
 
No GPA info tells you much on its own.  UWGPA is like knowing a hitter had a .400 batting average, but not knowing if that was in rec softball or the AL East.  WGPA is like not knowing that the average BA in the league was .600.  The main use for GPA data is to sort kids in the same class.  For that purpose, every HS I know of uses WGPA.  (No doubt there are outliers somewhere.)  A kid who takes nothing but non-Honors classes and earns a 3.6 GPA will have a 3.6 both weighted and unweighted.  A kid who took a schedule heavy on Honors and AP classes might have a 3.9 weighted, but a 3.5 unweighted.  The only thing I can see that UWGPA does over WGPA is to reward kids for choosing classes in which they can earn good marks.  That tends to reward lack of ambition.
 
Granted, WGPA alone is of little or no value either.  Obviously more info is key, which is why schools want standardized test scores, etc.  (And RJM, I know you advocated giving coaches additional data, which is surely good advice.)

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