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So my 2022 just got his first attempt at SAT results back.   Fine but not stellar for a kid with a 4.6(w)/3.9 unweighted.  (we had been hoping for something in the 1400s, he's low 1300s) He is headed to Showball in mid-June.  Scheduled to retake June 5th but won't have results back yet.  (yes, I hired a tutor. Probably should have right off the bat, but figured we could handle it internally since he had done fairly well on other standardized tests).  Divulge the ok test scores? Pretend like it didn't happen?  

This puts a wrench in our recruiting plan, in this crazy environment we were hoping to capitalize on his being both a great admissions candidate and a good ballplayer.

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My son got in the high 1200’s on his first try. He told the coach’s he’s getting a private tutor and will do much better the next time. He did. His comment showed determination to improve. It’s a positive trait.

1310 will work for many HA’s. If they’re looking for 1350 they will believe he will do better the second time. Most kids improve their scores.

SATs are becoming less important for some colleges. But regardless I know kids who played at Ivies with 1350.

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@LousyLefty posted:

It was 1320, which is actually lower than his PSAT score, even though that test had a lower possible total.  Maybe we should share both?

PSAT is on a different scale (1520 max) so the scores are not directly comparable. In any case, 10 points is within the margin of error and IMO not worth mentioning.  I would relax and let him play, this is ultimately what will decide things.

@LousyLefty posted:

It was 1320, which is actually lower than his PSAT score, even though that test had a lower possible total.  Maybe we should share both?

My son is a 2023 with a 1400 PSAT. So far the college coaches have told my son's HS and travel coaches they can't really do anything until he has an actual SAT score. I guess it does help get on their radar though. Most have asked when they will be able to see him in person. Not sure if that would be different for a 2022.

I believe all that is true.  I also knew several players who had to take the tests several times to get the minimum needed for admission to (non-HA) schools.

I'm just wondering, if the schools themselves don't require the tests for admission, how can athletic departments require them?

On the one hand, they are a metric that the school can use to evaluate a player for admission, at any level.  On the other hand, the schools are saying applicants don't have to take the test at all, so presumably the athletics departments don't need to see scores.

Good thing you got registered for 6/5 since you've decided a score is important.  Pretty hard to get a seat at one of these tests before fall.  It's nuts, and we're not going to use scores simply because we can't get a second test and I refuse to have him use the first score he got, no matter what it was--well, maybe I'd let him use a 32 ACT/1400 SAT. Score like that and it's gonna be all about the baseball.

This is not advice. It's just what we're doing.  If he'd been able to register for a 6/5 test he would have, with the hope that he would hit 1300 SAT/28 ACT. Since that's not the score he got, we're not using it at all.  If admissions doesn't need it, as mentioned above, why would a coach need it.  I knew a kid who had a 3.7 from a good, not elite, private school with curriculum that was average for that school.  His SAT didn't match up with his grades. He was applying to an extremely elite school and the coach there told him not to use the SAT.  He was waitlisted but then did everything admissions asked of him, pled his case, and finally got in.

O.k., I looked up the answer myself:

"Students who initially enroll full time during the 2021-22 or 2022-23 academic years and intend to play NCAA Division I or II athletics will not be required to take a standardized test to meet NCAA initial-eligibility requirements."

https://www.ncaa.org/about/res...eligibility-policies

Of course, that doesn't mean that a HA school might not ask for them for athletic recruits, but here was the Ivy League last summer:  "Given the ongoing issues with standardized testing in light of the COVID-19 pandemic, the Ivy League will not require prospective student-athletes to submit test scores during the 2020-21 application cycle."

https://ivyleague.com/news/202...ng-requirements.aspx

Apparently they haven't updated it for next year yet.

Good info....thanks for sharing it.  We've looked at over 50 liberal arts colleges' admissions requirements and none of them are asking for these tests for 2022 applicants.  That doesn't mean none of them are asking but colleges should have that info available by now. It's getting late in the game to be uncertain about whether you HAVE to have it or not.

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