Trade, why do you ask questions when you know so much already (u tube) and will already do whatever you plan on doing? It sure doesn't seem like you ask your questions to learn rather simply to be provocative.
I really don't think this is the site for you. People here are sincere and honestly, your attempts to rile everyone up take away from the content on this site.
Perhaps you could go back under your prehistoric rock?
quote:Originally posted by calisportsfan:
Trade, why do you ask questions when you know so much already (u tube) and will already do whatever you plan on doing? It sure doesn't seem like you ask your questions to learn rather simply to be provocative.
I really don't think this is the site for you. People here are sincere and honestly, your attempts to rile everyone up take away from the content on this site.
Perhaps you could go back under your prehistoric rock?
Obviously the tongue-in-cheek comments went over your head.
Why don't you just relax or just ignore?
Coach May liked your recap of your 11-13 team and your approach, my son played for a a team with the same kind of weekend tournaments when he was age 13-15. The coaches took the same approach, and it did cost them some wins. In fact 8 of the players in their senior year made the all area team. I joked with the coaches that with all of that talent that they should have won more, must have been the coaching!
The team was put together to prepare the kids to compete for their high school team. Like you saw many teams that were going for the win. What concerns me now it seems that kids are starting even younger with this kind of approach with their players
This sport is a marathon not a sprint.
The team was put together to prepare the kids to compete for their high school team. Like you saw many teams that were going for the win. What concerns me now it seems that kids are starting even younger with this kind of approach with their players
This sport is a marathon not a sprint.
Tongue in cheek...ok try this one. Yeah, I am the only reader here annoyed by you.
quote:High School Team issues...What do I do?
dolphindan1, did you get your answer?
quote:Originally posted by dolphindan1:
So basically you are saying I need to find a head coaching job as baseball coach and just coach my on son?...Shouldnt have turned that job down last summer...Yeah Colts dad had his path prepared for him...
I think you missed the point, not that that is shocking.
Keep finding someone to blame until one day reality kicks you in the balls.
quote:Originally posted by 13LHPdad:quote:High School Team issues...What do I do?
dolphindan1, did you get your answer?
Yeah....lol....been good reading and again i appreciate everyones feedback....i dont wanna comment anymore because i dont wanna be called a ****** dad or whatever....
quote:Originally posted by ironhorse:quote:Originally posted by dolphindan1:
So basically you are saying I need to find a head coaching job as baseball coach and just coach my on son?...Shouldnt have turned that job down last summer...Yeah Colts dad had his path prepared for him...
I think you missed the point, not that that is shocking.
Keep finding someone to blame until one day reality kicks you in the balls.
That is the point....isnt it...
And i havent blamed anyone about anything.....just trying to see if i should pursue other options....thats all....too bad u cant understand that.....
quote:Originally posted by dolphindan1:
And i havent blamed anyone about anything.....
Really...
quote:Originally posted by dolphindan1:
I honestly think the dad made an ultimatum or the coaches are kissing his butt to keep this kid there,
Let your kid face adversity now or call his boss the first time he gets passed over for a promotion. You're choice.
quote:Originally posted by ironhorse:quote:Originally posted by dolphindan1:
And i havent blamed anyone about anything.....
Really...
Yes really...i have only stated what i saw....no blames at all....quote:Originally posted by dolphindan1:
I honestly think the dad made an ultimatum or the coaches are kissing his butt to keep this kid there,
Let your kid face adversity now or call his boss the first time he gets passed over for a promotion. You're choice.
I agree letting him face adversity but i also agree just like a promotion if u arent happy u go somewhere else....the whole situation is a life lesson....not just half of it
Dolphindan, you can't spend life running or fixing. I think the thing is that your son is a freshman and you must realize that freshman are not a given on varsity.
Look at it this way, let him hang out with kids closer to his own age....less exposure to things older kids are more likely to do while he is quite a bit younger is a very good thing! He isn't going to play baseball in college because of his high school team so this probably in the scheme of life isn't something worth a bunch of upheaval for. Let him work harder and over come it. That alone will give him great confidence for other things.
Look at it this way, let him hang out with kids closer to his own age....less exposure to things older kids are more likely to do while he is quite a bit younger is a very good thing! He isn't going to play baseball in college because of his high school team so this probably in the scheme of life isn't something worth a bunch of upheaval for. Let him work harder and over come it. That alone will give him great confidence for other things.
quote:Originally posted by dolphindan1:
I agree letting him face adversity but i also agree just like a promotion if u arent happy u go somewhere else....the whole situation is a life lesson....not just half of it
Well the other half should be that he was "the third best hitter" on a 15u team, which is the age of a freshman team. And your upset he didn't make JV against 16 & 17 year olds?
I hope you do transfer. Preferably to the East Texas powerhouse where trad's YouTube created prodigy will be playing.
Geez, when does the clock run out on this thread?
As a lurker I've been following this thread with interest. I think out of consistency we must understand that the coach's perogative is true however as parents we must do what we feel is necessary to help our kids. I think everyone is right here and we must let go of our ego.
Doing what we feel is best for our kids.
Thats the whole issue here. Do you step in and try and manipulate the situation to "help them?" Or you do you get out of the way and allow them to make their way in order to "help them?"
At some point and time if they play long enough you will be TOTALLY out of the loop. 100% out of it. It will be their gig. There will nothing you can do other than show up at the games if you can. They will either sink or swim.
Now what better prepares them for that time?
Isn't that the same situation in life? One day you will no longer be in a position to "help them." Now for those that say "I will always help my kids.'" You will? From the grave? The only things they will take with them are the things you have taught them. So if you have always been there to bail them out, fix everything for them, manipulate situations for them, be a crutch for them, what are they going to do when you are no longer in a position to "help them?"
What happens when you fix this situation for them and they find themselves in another jam? Do they look for you to step up for them? Or do they look inside themselves and find a way to overcome whatever obstacles are in front of them?
My advice to the OP was to simply transfer his son. Why? He is convinced his son is not going to get a fair shake with these coaches in the program. So why stay and become a negative for his son and the program? Now if he can step out of the way and allow his son's talent, work ethic and toughness to overcome whatever obstacles are put in front of him leave him be and let him deal with it.
If you think not making the varisty as a freshman is a baseball obstacle you aint seen nothin yet. And you never will if you don't learn to "help" your son in the right way. But thats just my opinion. Just one persons opinion.
Thats the whole issue here. Do you step in and try and manipulate the situation to "help them?" Or you do you get out of the way and allow them to make their way in order to "help them?"
At some point and time if they play long enough you will be TOTALLY out of the loop. 100% out of it. It will be their gig. There will nothing you can do other than show up at the games if you can. They will either sink or swim.
Now what better prepares them for that time?
Isn't that the same situation in life? One day you will no longer be in a position to "help them." Now for those that say "I will always help my kids.'" You will? From the grave? The only things they will take with them are the things you have taught them. So if you have always been there to bail them out, fix everything for them, manipulate situations for them, be a crutch for them, what are they going to do when you are no longer in a position to "help them?"
What happens when you fix this situation for them and they find themselves in another jam? Do they look for you to step up for them? Or do they look inside themselves and find a way to overcome whatever obstacles are in front of them?
My advice to the OP was to simply transfer his son. Why? He is convinced his son is not going to get a fair shake with these coaches in the program. So why stay and become a negative for his son and the program? Now if he can step out of the way and allow his son's talent, work ethic and toughness to overcome whatever obstacles are put in front of him leave him be and let him deal with it.
If you think not making the varisty as a freshman is a baseball obstacle you aint seen nothin yet. And you never will if you don't learn to "help" your son in the right way. But thats just my opinion. Just one persons opinion.
Boy, this is a rough place for newcomers. I hope they all make it through the hazing.
quote:Doing what we feel is best for our kids.
Thats the whole issue here. Do you step in and try and manipulate the situation to "help them?" Or you do you get out of the way and allow them to make their way in order to "help them?"
At some point and time if they play long enough you will be TOTALLY out of the loop. 100% out of it. It will be their gig. There will nothing you can do other than show up at the games if you can. They will either sink or swim.
Another perspective - I think what many of you are proposing should also apply to those daddy coaches. Let your kid earn it himself like all the other players have to. Dads should not coach their sons in high school. I have first hand experience and it's a nightmare. If you have other options, dolphindan1, you might want to consider them. At this point in the game, all you want for your kid is a level playing field. There will always be other politics at play, but backing off and letting your kid prove himself is easy, once the daddy coaches are gone.
For those that don't think parents lay stuff out for their kids.... what about the kid born on third that thinks he hit a triple! 
is it not best for our kids to leaarn how to handle adversity early on?
I am afraid I can't classify playing time with the HS baseball team or a run in with the coach as something that is that big of a deal.
Girls say no to dates, people don't hire kids at McDonald's, they don't get to drive the car they want and on and on. There will be hundreds of disapointments and slights big & small and imagined or real. Everyone starts dealing with this as soon as they are born. Some of it matters but most of it is unimportant and forgotten. I might be a little bit tough here but almost all Americans really don't know what adversity is short of a death in the family. Our country is so great with so many opportunities that almost everyone has not only food and the basic necessities but things that most of the world would think of as luxuries like cars, electricity, plumbing, air conditioning, flat screens, cable etc.
Let's put the High School baseball team in the proper perspective. For millions of kids it'll be the end of a sporting career becasue they aren't good enough to go further in the game. They will survive, have productive lives and the world will stay on it's axis.
Girls say no to dates, people don't hire kids at McDonald's, they don't get to drive the car they want and on and on. There will be hundreds of disapointments and slights big & small and imagined or real. Everyone starts dealing with this as soon as they are born. Some of it matters but most of it is unimportant and forgotten. I might be a little bit tough here but almost all Americans really don't know what adversity is short of a death in the family. Our country is so great with so many opportunities that almost everyone has not only food and the basic necessities but things that most of the world would think of as luxuries like cars, electricity, plumbing, air conditioning, flat screens, cable etc.
Let's put the High School baseball team in the proper perspective. For millions of kids it'll be the end of a sporting career becasue they aren't good enough to go further in the game. They will survive, have productive lives and the world will stay on it's axis.