High School Team issues...What do I do?

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Originally posted by luv baseball:
I am afraid I can't classify playing time with the HS baseball team or a run in with the coach as something that is that big of a deal.

Girls say no to dates, people don't hire kids at McDonald's, they don't get to drive the car they want and on and on. There will be hundreds of disapointments and slights big & small and imagined or real. Everyone starts dealing with this as soon as they are born. Some of it matters but most of it is unimportant and forgotten. I might be a little bit tough here but almost all Americans really don't know what adversity is short of a death in the family. Our country is so great with so many opportunities that almost everyone has not only food and the basic necessities but things that most of the world would think of as luxuries like cars, electricity, plumbing, air conditioning, flat screens, cable etc.

Let's put the High School baseball team in the proper perspective. For millions of kids it'll be the end of a sporting career becasue they aren't good enough to go further in the game. They will survive, have productive lives and the world will stay on it's axis.

Great point, I agree.

This reminds me of one of those goofy facebook pages that you can like, or whatever. One asked "What is the greatest obstacle your son has had to overcome to play baseball?" There were a few incredible ones, including; missing a season to go through chemo, a few about having T-1 diabetes, a boy with aspergers trying to play, a pitcher getting hit in the head by a hit ball, etc. Some very big obstacles. But even after reading these, some parents still say their big obstacle was daddy ball, coaches not liking their son, and that type of stuff. Amazing what people think is an obstacle. Maybe their son is really blessed and that is the big hurdle of his life.

We find obstacles, big and small, in everything we do. We deal with them as they arise. Some people plow through them without a second thought and some people sit and complain. Winners plow, losers b i t c h.

There's no such thing as "fair." Make your own destiny. Like the kids with T-1 diabetes, or the kid going through chemo. They decided to plow.

There are a few posters on this thread that fall into the later category. Quit complaining and have your boys (not you) do something about their situation. Freekin' crybabies.

Rant off.

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Originally posted by ironhorse:

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Originally posted by dolphindan1:

I agree letting him face adversity but i also agree just like a promotion if u arent happy u go somewhere else....the whole situation is a life lesson....not just half of it

Well the other half should be that he was "the third best hitter" on a 15u team, which is the age of a freshman team. And your upset he didn't make JV against 16 & 17 year olds?

I hope you do transfer. Preferably to the East Texas powerhouse where trad's YouTube created prodigy will be playing.

I never said he was the third best hitter on his travel team...I said he hit third on JV last year as an 8th grader and hit 3rd on his travel team...I also never said he didnt make JV...I said he didnt make Varsity after 3 9th graders and 1 8th grader which are the 3 coaches kids made Varsity.

My only concern with the whole thing is even when he is a senior he will never be on a level playing field after what happened this year...also the 2 coaches kids play the same postions he plays....Let me get one thing straight my son will start in the OF and will get plenty of playing time on JV...Playing JV is not an issue its the principle of the situation...He really wants to play first base and knows he will never get that chance where he is at now he was not even allowed to tryout for Varsity or JV for a particular position...I only wanted to know if I should move him to a private school...I am not crying, whining, Bitching, Moaning or whatever...I am not trying to make life easier for my son...trust me military/college family here...BUT trust me when I say there is a issue at this school...

went to varsity scrimmage last night..well the one coaches son didnt even know how to hold runners as a pitcher. one runner was standing halfway between 1st and 2nd and the pitcher did nothing...sad but true....other coaches son gave up 6 runs as the starting pitcher...remember 9th graders...they arent ready but it wont be noticed trust me...OH yeah 4 errors at 1st base...just got a chuckle out of it...

Regardless of the circumstances I feel it is very lame when an adult has to speak badly about young players.
Find a good travel summer team and stop whining dad, this was a scrimmage, sit back and watch as things unfold, players that can't compete usually don't last long on the team, coach's sons or not.
This is a good lesson for your son (and you) to learn that you can't always get what you want, and he better learn how to play other positions, colleges coaches don't recruit based on who can play first base and who can't.

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Originally posted by TPM:
Regardless of the circumstances I feel it is very lame when an adult has to speak badly about young players.
Find a good travel summer team and stop whining dad, this was a scrimmage, sit back and watch as things unfold, players that can't compete usually don't last long on the team, coach's sons or not.
This is a good lesson for your son (and you) to learn that you can't always get what you want, and he better learn how to play other positions, colleges coaches don't recruit based on who can play first base and who can't.

The best, most direct answer to this situation to date!

Unfortunately TPM, I think it's falling upon deaf ears.

I think you have found the answer to your problem. If you went to watch the varsity scrimmage and your son was not involved, and you went to criticize every move made, you may be the reason your son is not achieving his potential. When coaches make teams they do not keep players that will detract from the overall team chemistry. The same goes for parents. If a parent is going to cause a cancer, then the player should be lucky to be on the JV. Keep positive, say NOTHING negative about the other players and the coaching and your son might stand a chance. If you feed into this my son against them attitude, he will never grasp the team concept and will never see the field.

dolphindan1 - this board is not as anonymous as some think - your player specific criticism will be easy for some to decode and determine the names of the players you refer to. I a presuming that you had no intention of calling out players by name and embarrassing them - so be careful.

llet me say this----based on dads posts here the son, regardless of how much talent he has would not be invited to play for our travel team other travel team coaches may agree

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I only wanted to know if I should move him to a private school

YES ALREADY!

My son played catcher his first two years in high school, middle infield the next two. Now he's playing outfield in college, and he's just happy to be on the field and getting to play. Don't worry about positions, just be glad he's playing

There's always the real possibility that this kid is in a no win situation. Thousands of kids have transfered schools for many different reasons. They are not all bad kids with bad parents. That said, it can be a red flag for decision makers.

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Originally posted by dolphindan1:

I never said he was the third best hitter on his travel team...I said he hit third on JV last year as an 8th grader and hit 3rd on his travel team...

Really?

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Originally posted by dolphindan1:

he also had the 3rd highest batting average on team.

Dolphin, I would assume your private tuition is about 10K a year for 4 years....40K. At about 20 games a year that's just 500.00 a game for what sounds like bad high school baseball since Freshman and 8th grades not even in high school make varsity no matters whose kids they are!

That's a deal, 500/game. You should totally do it.

Never once have I heard you address education. That's why kids go to high school. Your original post was hard to relate to but boy, your last one was a doozy. Take something for your anxiety and a chill pill too and use your check book as you really are missing the point to all the posts aimed at helping you. Did you even read mine about what my son endured and how it has been resolved?

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Originally posted by ironhorse:

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Originally posted by dolphindan1:

I never said he was the third best hitter on his travel team...I said he hit third on JV last year as an 8th grader and hit 3rd on his travel team...

Really?

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Originally posted by dolphindan1:

he also had the 3rd highest batting average on team.

come on now iron, in all fairness...we all know that 3rd best batting average by no way means 3rd best hitter.....and we all know that th best hitter always bats clean-up right?(lol)

Dolphin,
As others have stated, what your son or you decide is his best position may not be what he ends up playing. My son was a catcher for 10 years, 2 years all league voted by the players best defensive catcher in league.
In junior college was changed to pitcher/closer received 3 offers to 4 year schools after J.C. graduation 2 as pitcher 1 as 3rd base starter.

You never know what a coach may have in mind for your player or as in my son's case God does. TOFT

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Originally posted by dolphindan1:
Let me get one thing straight my son will start in the OF and will get plenty of playing time on JV...Playing JV is not an issue its the principle of the situation...He really wants to play first base and knows he will never get that chance where he is at now he was not even allowed to tryout for Varsity or JV for a particular position...I only wanted to know if I should move him to a private school...I am not crying, whining, Bitching, Moaning or whatever...I am not trying to make life easier for my son...trust me military/college family here...BUT trust me when I say there is a issue at this school...

dolphindan1 - Maybe this thread will help answer some questions. But only if you read it in its entirety and then honestly assess your son's ability. Like i said in a previous post here. JV as a FROSH is a good thing, JV as an 8th grader is a GREAT thing. Be proud of his accomplishment and don’t worry about the others. It will all work out.

bballdad2016 - I agree with everything you said except that "It will all work out" This is usually the case, but when Dads are coaching it is unlikely.

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Originally posted by callmecoach:
bballdad2016 - I agree with everything you said except that "It will all work out" This is usually the case, but when Dads are coaching it is unlikely.

Well boo frickin' hoo for you, too.

Sometimes I wonder why we have so many excuse-making kids these days. Then I read these threads.

Dolphin: I suggest you go to the recruiting section and read the thread on corner positions. The theme is colleges don't recruit first basemen.

How could this be a no win situation, it's not like the player was cut, as a 9th grader he was placed on JV. He obviously isn't ready for V, has nothing to do with ANYONE ELSE. This is something that parents have to come to grips with, sit back and just watch things unfold, he's got FOUR years to play HS baseball.

How many players has that happened to, they didn't make V, they didn't get to play their fav position... MANY. It happened to mine, and I can assure you that he was pretty good as a 9th grader, we didn't think TWICE about it.

Answer to your question, should the player go to a private school? Sure go for it, but don't come back here complaining that someone got to play first base and yours didn't ...just saying.