hey guys,
i got some videos of me hitting
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4632998794360269569&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1677295370919756593&hl=en
SUGGESTIONS!!!
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Good athleticism. Correct me if I'm wrong, but do you PULL everything? If so, spend a couple practice sessions w/ the goal of hitting everything as hard line drives to the RCF gap. It looks to me like you're throwing your upper body at it a little too soon.
See what you can do w/o even thinking about it much... just set the goal: "line drive to RCF gap". Then play around til you find a way to accomplish that.
Let me know if this helps.
Good luck.
See what you can do w/o even thinking about it much... just set the goal: "line drive to RCF gap". Then play around til you find a way to accomplish that.
Let me know if this helps.
Good luck.
thx for the response.....believe it or not i am mostly an opposite field hitter with 50 % of my hits going to RF
Question---why are you in the cage without a batting helmet on?
hey guys...im on the same team as liastros25
i got some videos of myself as well.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-15992767313279...&q=cam+hitting&hl=en
more videos on the way...
let me know what you guys think
i got some videos of myself as well.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-15992767313279...&q=cam+hitting&hl=en
more videos on the way...
let me know what you guys think
quote:Originally posted by liastros25:
thx for the response.....believe it or not i am mostly an opposite field hitter with 50 % of my hits going to RF
But were the shots you posted in the cage going to oppo? They looked to all be pulled.
Hi Liastros 25
A couple of my observations on some of the swings.
The guy in the white shirt and blue shorts (you?)has what I describe as a pre load not a dynamic load. He starts his rear movement,stops,and then starts again. Cam's swing looks unco-ordinated. His rythym is off.I bet he doesn't like hitting off a machine I like Max's swing the best. He has a good shoulder load and the bat has a nice swing path.
All three hitters are not using this practise efficiently. They are all swinging as if they just barely want to make contact as all are swinging to the rythym of the machine, no intensity.Cam in particular is trying to guess when the ball is bieng released and is committing way too early.
Vinny has a common problem I see in mainly young players.Hip slide. His rotation doesn't start untill on or after contact. He would get fooled easily by a change up or outside pitch
Its a brave thing to put your swings up for review.I have learned a lot by observing other comments about swings.
Thanks guys
Alan
A couple of my observations on some of the swings.
The guy in the white shirt and blue shorts (you?)has what I describe as a pre load not a dynamic load. He starts his rear movement,stops,and then starts again. Cam's swing looks unco-ordinated. His rythym is off.I bet he doesn't like hitting off a machine I like Max's swing the best. He has a good shoulder load and the bat has a nice swing path.
All three hitters are not using this practise efficiently. They are all swinging as if they just barely want to make contact as all are swinging to the rythym of the machine, no intensity.Cam in particular is trying to guess when the ball is bieng released and is committing way too early.
Vinny has a common problem I see in mainly young players.Hip slide. His rotation doesn't start untill on or after contact. He would get fooled easily by a change up or outside pitch
Its a brave thing to put your swings up for review.I have learned a lot by observing other comments about swings.
Thanks guys
Alan
This is for TR..believe it or not most of us don't use batting helmets in the cages. Around here it's pretty rare to see people in highschool using batting helmets unless a coach is there to tell them to use one.
thanks for the help alan, but you have no idea what you're talking about
Hmmmmm TPBulldog35, I hear what you're saying BUT it sounds alot like this:
" None of us around here wear seatbelts,..that is unless we get pulled over ".
Think safety.
You'll live longer. Have ya ever seen what happens to a kid who gets hit in the head with a ball going 75-85+??? I have. Not pretty. Can be even deadly.
Not preaching,..just concerned!
Be careful, smart, and athletic!!!
Thats a good combo!
" None of us around here wear seatbelts,..that is unless we get pulled over ".
Think safety.
You'll live longer. Have ya ever seen what happens to a kid who gets hit in the head with a ball going 75-85+??? I have. Not pretty. Can be even deadly.
Not preaching,..just concerned!
Be careful, smart, and athletic!!!
Thats a good combo!
Stros25 and Camden...both of you guys are spinning. You are not dynamically loading. The question is do either of you understand the spinning vs whipping and a static loading vs a dynamic loading.
Hi Camden
Thanks for your feed back.Is it based on what I said or where I'm from?
I just clicked on the link in your post and it is possible I may have the wrong hitter.Were you taught to swing down to get backspin, hit into a stiff front leg and squish the bug with your back foot? Do you lunge at the outside low pitch? If you do hit the outside is it a short fly to right?(or left for a lefty)
If the answer is no to these questions I apologise...
but my guess is I am right on at least 3 of them.If I am right you would be advised to listen to Vance34's advice,learn how to load properly and learn how to connect the bat to the rotation of the shoulders.
With respect
Alan
Thanks for your feed back.Is it based on what I said or where I'm from?
I just clicked on the link in your post and it is possible I may have the wrong hitter.Were you taught to swing down to get backspin, hit into a stiff front leg and squish the bug with your back foot? Do you lunge at the outside low pitch? If you do hit the outside is it a short fly to right?(or left for a lefty)
If the answer is no to these questions I apologise...
but my guess is I am right on at least 3 of them.If I am right you would be advised to listen to Vance34's advice,learn how to load properly and learn how to connect the bat to the rotation of the shoulders.
With respect
Alan
i appreciate all the help. i have a stance like jose reyes (specifically my hand location), but i have no trouble hitting a pitch anywhere in the zone. i used to have trouble when i was younger hitting outside pitches (since i was a dead-pull lefty), but i now hit pitches anywhere
Hi Camden
As I said before it takes courage to put your swing on the net for the whole world to see and I thank you for it. I hope you don't take these observations as critisizm, that is not my intention.My comments about your swing helps me more than you by verbalising my thoughts. If my response gets feedback I benefit
Batting cage swings are not the best way to analyse your true swing as the pressure of the game is not present. If you are able, get game swings,good and bad,to really understand and learn what you are currently doing and where you need improvement.
What level do you play? What are your baseball ambitions and or goals. Are you happy with the way you swing at the moment and where the hell is Hicksville?
Untill next time
Alan
As I said before it takes courage to put your swing on the net for the whole world to see and I thank you for it. I hope you don't take these observations as critisizm, that is not my intention.My comments about your swing helps me more than you by verbalising my thoughts. If my response gets feedback I benefit
Batting cage swings are not the best way to analyse your true swing as the pressure of the game is not present. If you are able, get game swings,good and bad,to really understand and learn what you are currently doing and where you need improvement.
What level do you play? What are your baseball ambitions and or goals. Are you happy with the way you swing at the moment and where the hell is Hicksville?
Untill next time
Alan
quote:.....but i have no trouble hitting a pitch anywhere in the zone.
Camden, than why post your swing?....
I have a question for you.....Do you understand top half connection and the importance of setting the swing plane with your posture?....Please answer....
One more, Camden....What are you using as your power source for your swing?
i will admit to my swing being unorthodox
i use my legs as a power-source
i use my legs as a power-source
quote:Do you understand top half connection and the importance of setting the swing plane with your posture?....
Camden....
quote:i use my legs as a power-source
Major League Hitters DO NOT!
Vance:
MLB hitters do not use their hamstrings for power?
THop
MLB hitters do not use their hamstrings for power?
THop
Tim...
What about the lead leg quad?
DB
What about the lead leg quad?
DB
Donnie:
?? What about it?
?? What about it?
I always thought both of the quadriceps & both of the hamstring muscles contributed to the rotational hip turn which added power to the swing (and throwing motion).
I thought that’s why extra wide batting stances had gained popularity the past decade. And why outfielders perform a crow hop and exaggerated stride before throwing to the plate.
What do you guys think?
THop
I thought that’s why extra wide batting stances had gained popularity the past decade. And why outfielders perform a crow hop and exaggerated stride before throwing to the plate.
What do you guys think?
THop
quote:I always thought both of the quadriceps & both of the hamstring muscles contributed.......
They do.....Just as a relay in an electrical system contributes.....However, the relay is not the source of the power.....Something else generates the power.....
I think it's important to understand that rotation in the swing is not limited to the hips.....Top half rotation is just as important....Concentrating on hip turn can be troublesome and is a problem with many amateur hitters.....
As for stride or no-stride.....Again, putting the concentration on either is pointless, IMO.....The attention should be on producing momentum.....Can the hitter produce momentum?.....Because, without momentum, rotation is weak.....
Same for throwing....Crowhops and exagerrated strides are momentum producers....The pattern is, produce momentum, then rotate....
As for stride or no-stride.....Again, putting the concentration on either is pointless, IMO.....The attention should be on producing momentum.....Can the hitter produce momentum?.....Because, without momentum, rotation is weak.....
Same for throwing....Crowhops and exagerrated strides are momentum producers....The pattern is, produce momentum, then rotate....
As for muscles....
The contributing muscles which do not produce the power, but which are needed to transfer the power through the kinetic chain, need to be engaged......That's why it's important to understand the use of posture in the swing.....The correct use of posture allows these muscles to engage when needed......This is why posture in the stance is so important....
If any of the contributing muscles are producing power, the kinetic chain is compromised and the swing is not high level....
The contributing muscles which do not produce the power, but which are needed to transfer the power through the kinetic chain, need to be engaged......That's why it's important to understand the use of posture in the swing.....The correct use of posture allows these muscles to engage when needed......This is why posture in the stance is so important....
If any of the contributing muscles are producing power, the kinetic chain is compromised and the swing is not high level....
BlueDog,
Can you please elaborate on "posture in the stance being important". I thought stance really didn't matter, but during and post-stride, posture became important? Thanks.
Can you please elaborate on "posture in the stance being important". I thought stance really didn't matter, but during and post-stride, posture became important? Thanks.
THop,
My point was somewhat loaded as I believe strongly that the lead quad extension finshes the hip turn.
A player with no torque and a poor middle move might not get to the point of being able to extend the quad.
So ...everybody is right.
When the middle was defined as the knees to the shoulders it became more relative to me as I believe the arm action before/ at / after the cusp sets up shoulder resistance to work the hips against.
I think it is important to get inside/ out and tighten the linkage by shift/ rotate the hips at the cusp just going into toe touch.
My point was somewhat loaded as I believe strongly that the lead quad extension finshes the hip turn.
A player with no torque and a poor middle move might not get to the point of being able to extend the quad.
So ...everybody is right.
When the middle was defined as the knees to the shoulders it became more relative to me as I believe the arm action before/ at / after the cusp sets up shoulder resistance to work the hips against.
I think it is important to get inside/ out and tighten the linkage by shift/ rotate the hips at the cusp just going into toe touch.
Sandman, posture activates, or, engages muscles......Certain muscles are needed to properly move the middle during the stride...If those muscles aren't activated in the stance, the stride will not produce good momentum which will result in weak rotation....
quote:Certain muscles are needed to properly move the middle during the stride...If those muscles aren't activated in the stance, the stride will not produce good momentum which will result in weak rotation....
Since MLB hitters don't push off their back leg, what muscles do you speak of in moving the middle to produce good momentum?
Picture an infielder just before the pitch....Picture a basketball guard guarding a dribbler.....Do they stand straight or is there a certain position they get into?.....
They have engaged muscles they will need to go to the next step........
They have engaged muscles they will need to go to the next step........
Sandman -
Lessons from golf would suggest the stance/set up can be extremely influential.
The old fashioned "hips and hands" hickory shaft swing as described most comprehensibly by Bobby Jones was the most similar golf swing to hitting.
This is one reason TEd Williams stressed the similarity of hitting to golf in SCIENCE OF HITTING, especially hip turn/hip cok and "getting your a** into the swing" (supposedly this was golf advice given to president Eisenhower).
Jones thought the high level golf swing pattern universals were best taught as a sequence of motions/functions which was invariable.
The 2 most important motions were the start from the stance (start of load motion) and starting the club down from the top (start of overlapping unload motion).
This means the stance and how it influences the start of loading is a crucial area if there is indeed significant "crossover" from the golf swing which I think there is.
While the hitting swing must be greatly shortened and quickened and made adjustable on the fly, the basic sequence of motion is the same for both.
The loading in golf consists of a turning back of the body lead by the hips AND a lifting of the arms. While these two actions (turn and lift) are blended in different ways by individuals, a UNIVERSAL is that the turn back comes first,THEN the lift starts.
Without the same sequence, you can not have a high level hitting pattern, you will be dead stop/no hands/low level hitter.
In hitting the turn back/inward turn needs to be relatively abbreviated and is interrupted then by the lifting of the arms which is accentuated in hitting as compared to golf. The lift is associated with cocking of the hip which requires "torso activation" of muscles and stops the hips from turning back excessively,coks the hips, and carries the body to toe touch.
The stance/setup should likewise be dynamic, not static. Lau's "rhythmic preswing activity" is a good description of a "universal" requirement of the high level swing pattern.
The hip turn back beginning from the stance and PRECEDING the arm lift is associated with some other "requirements" which may be more or less "universal".
Williams said "preloading" does not work/messes up rhythm. Do NOT start with the weight too much back and the hips already turned back.
Golfers have found the stance width and orientation of the feet to be influential as well. A "SWAY" back instead of a "turn" back is not fatal IF there is still the right sequence, BUT the timing of a back and forth sway greatly increases the chance for timing/sequencing error and loss of consistency.
A wide stance makes the turn back harder and a sway more likely. Likewise, having the back foot turned open as opposed to pigeon toed encourages a LONG back turn.
This suggests that a square or closed/pigeon toed back foot position would be good for hitting as well as a narrow stance.
Later on when you want to quicken the unloading of the short hitting swing,a WIDE stance for turning the hips is good.
How can we start narrow for a good brief turn back then get wide for a quick forward swing. Maybe a stride would work here ?
Then you have to also think of the effect of your base as it changes with the stride.
I am an arm action is king believer, but the lower body positioning and sequencing has a permissive/influential effect on how the arms feel comfortable working/ how the body gives support to what the hands/arms demand.
The back arm goes through a universal loading sequence for example that is the same in hitting and the overhand throw for example.The arm start holding the bat up which greatly shortens the swing as compared to keeping the lead arm straight in golf. There will be some pronation of the back forearm, then some internal rotation of the back arm and some raising of the back elbow as the back scap pinches, then some external rotation/lowering of the back elbow as the back scap remains pinched.
This arm action is far more acentuated/necessary in hitting for quickening the swing. Furthermore, in this torso or total body activated muscle mode, the back arm and front leg motions will need to synch. This synch is hard to do if the front foot is stuck on the ground. This is another strong argument for the "stride" style.
When the back arm goes through its necessary loading sequence, the front leg does the same.
Front foot square or closed after striding will tend to inhibit hips turning open with the swing unloading. It will encourage more of a loading hip turn back from the stance, BUT the influence is less than back foot position.
An open front foot after the stride foot is down makes coiling into toe touch and later rotation easier, BUT there is also a risk of encouraging sway/drift forward instead of rotation IF the hands did not load in behind the body AND the hips did not turn back when the motion began.
So, for example, a closed front foot as unloading begins CAN influence the hips to sway forward less and rotate forward more, BUT a FAR STRONGER CAUSE/EFFECT relationship is a body loading sequence that prepares for an inside out swing trajectory which is as necessary in hitting as it is in golf.
So, some summary points.
Stance should include some rhythmic motion.
Weight should be pretty even. Too much weight should not be on back foot. Hips should not be turned back.
Stance should not be wide enough to prevent a good hipcoil as beginning of negative move.
Stride is a good thing.Along these lines the not unusual 2 piece stride is instructive.
First piece of stride is to step back and in from open position to encourage starting swing motion from stance with inward turn/negative move.
2nd piece of stride consists of leg lift which helps establish the offcenter balance triggering torso activation which then proceeds to coking the hip as the front leg internally rotates/leads with the heel.
Then the "positive move" starts as the stride foot goes out while hips stay coked, "showing sole".
Then stride foot turns open as front leg externally rotates to start coiling the body going into toe touch.
Of course, you will not see this progression well unless there is a high level swing where the arm action is high level and demanding the lower body to synch with it this way, cocking the bat up,then forward,then uncoking the bat back and transitioning it into the swing plane.
The key to the timing of upper and lower body coiling is the synchronized external rotation of the back arm and front leg (as the hips and scaps stay cocked), just as it is in the overhand throw.
So anyway, back to the stance. Pigeon toeing the back foot toward the pitcher can discourage sway,BUT you must still make sure you begin the negative move with turning the hip back, NO TORSO ACTIVATION YET.
TORSO activation will then qickly follow as the weight gets entirely off the front foot, forcing "offcenter balance".
THEN the hips can **** with the synchronized internal rotion of the back arm and lead leg - bat coks up vertically as front leg turns so heel will lead as stride foot goes forward.
So when you think of stance, you need to keep in mind
Is there rhythmic motion ?
how wide?
how is weight distributed ?
where is head in relation to center ?
is stance open/square or closed ?
are feet open square or closed ?
how is bat held ? (grip is a whole nother story)
how will swing motion start ?
will universal load/unload sequence be supported ?
how will feet come down if stride ?
how will base transition if no-stride ?
Lessons from golf would suggest the stance/set up can be extremely influential.
The old fashioned "hips and hands" hickory shaft swing as described most comprehensibly by Bobby Jones was the most similar golf swing to hitting.
This is one reason TEd Williams stressed the similarity of hitting to golf in SCIENCE OF HITTING, especially hip turn/hip cok and "getting your a** into the swing" (supposedly this was golf advice given to president Eisenhower).
Jones thought the high level golf swing pattern universals were best taught as a sequence of motions/functions which was invariable.
The 2 most important motions were the start from the stance (start of load motion) and starting the club down from the top (start of overlapping unload motion).
This means the stance and how it influences the start of loading is a crucial area if there is indeed significant "crossover" from the golf swing which I think there is.
While the hitting swing must be greatly shortened and quickened and made adjustable on the fly, the basic sequence of motion is the same for both.
The loading in golf consists of a turning back of the body lead by the hips AND a lifting of the arms. While these two actions (turn and lift) are blended in different ways by individuals, a UNIVERSAL is that the turn back comes first,THEN the lift starts.
Without the same sequence, you can not have a high level hitting pattern, you will be dead stop/no hands/low level hitter.
In hitting the turn back/inward turn needs to be relatively abbreviated and is interrupted then by the lifting of the arms which is accentuated in hitting as compared to golf. The lift is associated with cocking of the hip which requires "torso activation" of muscles and stops the hips from turning back excessively,coks the hips, and carries the body to toe touch.
The stance/setup should likewise be dynamic, not static. Lau's "rhythmic preswing activity" is a good description of a "universal" requirement of the high level swing pattern.
The hip turn back beginning from the stance and PRECEDING the arm lift is associated with some other "requirements" which may be more or less "universal".
Williams said "preloading" does not work/messes up rhythm. Do NOT start with the weight too much back and the hips already turned back.
Golfers have found the stance width and orientation of the feet to be influential as well. A "SWAY" back instead of a "turn" back is not fatal IF there is still the right sequence, BUT the timing of a back and forth sway greatly increases the chance for timing/sequencing error and loss of consistency.
A wide stance makes the turn back harder and a sway more likely. Likewise, having the back foot turned open as opposed to pigeon toed encourages a LONG back turn.
This suggests that a square or closed/pigeon toed back foot position would be good for hitting as well as a narrow stance.
Later on when you want to quicken the unloading of the short hitting swing,a WIDE stance for turning the hips is good.
How can we start narrow for a good brief turn back then get wide for a quick forward swing. Maybe a stride would work here ?
Then you have to also think of the effect of your base as it changes with the stride.
I am an arm action is king believer, but the lower body positioning and sequencing has a permissive/influential effect on how the arms feel comfortable working/ how the body gives support to what the hands/arms demand.
The back arm goes through a universal loading sequence for example that is the same in hitting and the overhand throw for example.The arm start holding the bat up which greatly shortens the swing as compared to keeping the lead arm straight in golf. There will be some pronation of the back forearm, then some internal rotation of the back arm and some raising of the back elbow as the back scap pinches, then some external rotation/lowering of the back elbow as the back scap remains pinched.
This arm action is far more acentuated/necessary in hitting for quickening the swing. Furthermore, in this torso or total body activated muscle mode, the back arm and front leg motions will need to synch. This synch is hard to do if the front foot is stuck on the ground. This is another strong argument for the "stride" style.
When the back arm goes through its necessary loading sequence, the front leg does the same.
Front foot square or closed after striding will tend to inhibit hips turning open with the swing unloading. It will encourage more of a loading hip turn back from the stance, BUT the influence is less than back foot position.
An open front foot after the stride foot is down makes coiling into toe touch and later rotation easier, BUT there is also a risk of encouraging sway/drift forward instead of rotation IF the hands did not load in behind the body AND the hips did not turn back when the motion began.
So, for example, a closed front foot as unloading begins CAN influence the hips to sway forward less and rotate forward more, BUT a FAR STRONGER CAUSE/EFFECT relationship is a body loading sequence that prepares for an inside out swing trajectory which is as necessary in hitting as it is in golf.
So, some summary points.
Stance should include some rhythmic motion.
Weight should be pretty even. Too much weight should not be on back foot. Hips should not be turned back.
Stance should not be wide enough to prevent a good hipcoil as beginning of negative move.
Stride is a good thing.Along these lines the not unusual 2 piece stride is instructive.
First piece of stride is to step back and in from open position to encourage starting swing motion from stance with inward turn/negative move.
2nd piece of stride consists of leg lift which helps establish the offcenter balance triggering torso activation which then proceeds to coking the hip as the front leg internally rotates/leads with the heel.
Then the "positive move" starts as the stride foot goes out while hips stay coked, "showing sole".
Then stride foot turns open as front leg externally rotates to start coiling the body going into toe touch.
Of course, you will not see this progression well unless there is a high level swing where the arm action is high level and demanding the lower body to synch with it this way, cocking the bat up,then forward,then uncoking the bat back and transitioning it into the swing plane.
The key to the timing of upper and lower body coiling is the synchronized external rotation of the back arm and front leg (as the hips and scaps stay cocked), just as it is in the overhand throw.
So anyway, back to the stance. Pigeon toeing the back foot toward the pitcher can discourage sway,BUT you must still make sure you begin the negative move with turning the hip back, NO TORSO ACTIVATION YET.
TORSO activation will then qickly follow as the weight gets entirely off the front foot, forcing "offcenter balance".
THEN the hips can **** with the synchronized internal rotion of the back arm and lead leg - bat coks up vertically as front leg turns so heel will lead as stride foot goes forward.
So when you think of stance, you need to keep in mind
Is there rhythmic motion ?
how wide?
how is weight distributed ?
where is head in relation to center ?
is stance open/square or closed ?
are feet open square or closed ?
how is bat held ? (grip is a whole nother story)
how will swing motion start ?
will universal load/unload sequence be supported ?
how will feet come down if stride ?
how will base transition if no-stride ?
To me it is very scary when the golf swing is equated with the baseball swing---in golf the ball is positioned and stationary and in baseball the ball is never in the same position when you swing--you are also hitting the golf ball with a flat surface not a rounded surface
Sorry folks--it don't work for me-- you can come at me all you want with the scientific ****-- but hitting a stationary golf ball is not the same as hitting a moving baseball
Sorry folks--it don't work for me-- you can come at me all you want with the scientific ****-- but hitting a stationary golf ball is not the same as hitting a moving baseball
Sandman and NYdad, it is important to know that when the middle shifts forward during the stride, the top half must go with it.....
Which means, there are muscles in the top half that need to be engaged during the stance....
Which means, there are muscles in the top half that need to be engaged during the stance....
quote:Sorry folks--it don't work for me-- you can come at me all you want with the scientific ****-- but hitting a stationary golf ball is not the same as hitting a moving baseball
HIT..I know you played baseball so you must not play golf. They are shockingly similar. Shoulders turning back as the lower half shift/ rotates. X factor is the same in both and the driver of both. Even though the ball is still you are still moving through the shot.
TR- See ball, hit ball. Swing hard in case you hit it. Mechanics are important but mental approach even more so. The best hitters do most of these things naturally. I enjoy reading most of these posts but the reality is that we are trying to teach hitting to kids and most of these posts would absolutely confuse everybody but NASA engineers. A great teacher is the one that can convey their message in the simplest of terms so that their pupil understands it and is able to apply it.
quote:A great teacher is the one that can convey their message in the simplest of terms so that their pupil understands it and is able to apply
Even though the message may be flawed?....
BlueDog- You are correct. The message needs to be correct and I enjoy reading your info in particular. I've learned alot reading your info as well as others. I've been coaching for about 25 years and been able to be around some very special players. I'm always looking to get better. My point is that a coach needs to convey the message in a way that a player understands it. If it becomes too technical, sometimes that great message is lost.
quote:If it becomes too technical, sometimes that great message is lost.
Ncball, this has been a problem with all of us, I believe....
Most of my time and research these days is on how to teach this stuff.....That is the new frontier, IMO.....
quote:it is important to know that when the middle shifts forward during the stride, the top half must go with it.....
Dog, can you define top half as i'm not clear on your statement...are you excluding shoulders/arms/hands from top half as such are working back during weight shift. Maybe I'm missing your point here. Pls clarify. Thanks.
