Son’s travel team had their summer team tryout/showcase today. There were a TON of 2022 kids trying out for the 2023 team. The coaches had each class in a different color shirt. The re-class kids had there own color because there were so many. The good news I guess is the team will have a couple really good MIF additions and some depth at P.
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What state are you in? How are juniors reclassifying as sophomores--most states only allow 4 years of eligibility once you start HS. I see a fair amount of 8th graders reclass and repeat 8th grade, but not HS.
For years, we saw kids reclass in the 8th grade. Now, we are seeing it more in HS. Kids are either willing to punt playing their last year of HS or they move to another state or go to a private school for senior year where they let them play for that 5th year.
I have officially lost track on how many good 22s we have seen reclass to 23s. Some of them were even old for their grade as 22s. Everyone knows who they are and what they are doing. The coaches and recruiters don't seem to care. In fact, they they seem to prefer it.
@langra posted:What state are you in? How are juniors reclassifying as sophomores--most states only allow 4 years of eligibility once you start HS. I see a fair amount of 8th graders reclass and repeat 8th grade, but not HS.
Same state as I am in. The players that I know of, 2020s, reclassify and attend academies that are cropping up all over, but not so early. Many have already solid commitments.
@langra posted:What state are you in? How are juniors reclassifying as sophomores--most states only allow 4 years of eligibility once you start HS. I see a fair amount of 8th graders reclass and repeat 8th grade, but not HS.
All it takes to get around four years of eligibility is attend a private that’s not part of the state athletic association. Many privates are members of their own athletic association.
The parents look you in the face and tell you it’s for academic reasons. The truth is Helicopter Dad is holding him back so he can dominate in HS. The coaches and HS admin let it happen.
@TPM posted:Same state as I am in. The players that I know of, 2020s, reclassify and attend academies that are cropping up all over, but not so early. Many have already solid commitments.
I understand reclassifying after graduation to do post grad. But that isn't what is being described.
@RJM posted:All it takes to get around four years of eligibility is attend a private that’s not part of the state athletic association. Many privates are members of their own athletic association.
That's why I asked about the state. You can't do that in Texas even though there are separate athletic associations.
California starts the 4 year clock when you enroll in HS. If you want to reclass you have to repeat 8th grade or earlier, which lots of athletes do.
@Smitty28 posted:California starts the 4 year clock when you enroll in HS. If you want to reclass you have to repeat 8th grade or earlier, which lots of athletes do.
Same in Texas. And Perfect Game etc age rules are by grad year, right? I don't think you can decide as a sophomore or junior that you are going to eventually do post grad and reclass now for summer teams.
I dont know specifics but I am sure one can reclassify in HS, without repeating as long as the student meets NCAA D1 requirements in core classes to be met in the 4 years he would have graduated. Does that make sense?
Maybe this is on a state to state basis, and why in FL it's becoming common.
@Francis7 posted:I have officially lost track on how many good 22s we have seen reclass to 23s. Some of them were even old for their grade as 22s. Everyone knows who they are and what they are doing. The coaches and recruiters don't seem to care. In fact, they they seem to prefer it.
This has always stumped me. WHY don't they care? Can someone explain this to me other than if they can play they can play because there are kids that play just well above average against their own age and WAY better when playing down and get very good offers in 9th grade. Not sour grapes this doesn't affect my kid.
@Smitty28 posted:California starts the 4 year clock when you enroll in HS. If you want to reclass you have to repeat 8th grade or earlier, which lots of athletes do.
Same in our state. Half of the athletes in my kids' Sophomore class reclassed by taking an extra year in the adjoining Private Catholic Middle School (some of the classes were in the High School) after 8th grade and no on seems to care (HS coaches, ranking services, parents). Many of them are not elite and it won't matter except to their helicopter parents. For a handful, they will have a significant advantage academically, athletically in school and for recruiting purposes, and even in the draft. Try explaining this to your kid some day..
@Fred Flintstone posted:The parents look you in the face and tell you it’s for academic reasons. The truth is Helicopter Dad is holding him back so he can dominate in HS. The coaches and HS admin let it happen.
Or worse yet, just compete or make the varsity team. IMO, it's pathetic.
In GA, clock starts as soon as you begin 9th grade. 8 semesters of eligibility.
PG’s #1 ‘23 C in GA reclassified between 7th & 8th grade. Also attending IMG now, which makes it irrelevant most likely.
#4 ‘23 C in GA was a ‘22 until summer, is now a ‘23. Not sure how that’s going to work for him, as he’s in a public school. But not my problem.
I would imagine that the easiest thing to do here in GA (if you reclassified after entering HS) would be to home school the 5th year and play with an academy team (plenty here).
Not something our son will be doing, so we’re just gonna eat popcorn and watch the show...
@TPM posted:I dont know specifics but I am sure one can reclassify in HS, without repeating as long as the student meets NCAA D1 requirements in core classes to be met in the 4 years he would have graduated. Does that make sense?
Maybe this is on a state to state basis, and why in FL it's becoming common.
Yes this makes sense in that the NCAA doesn't care, but in CA and other states they limit HS sports eligibility to 4 years, so if you reclass as a sophomore (for example), you can change your graduation date but you'll have to sit out sports your senior (5th) year.
@KennieProton posted:This has always stumped me. WHY don't they care? Can someone explain this to me other than if they can play they can play because there are kids that play just well above average against their own age and WAY better when playing down and get very good offers in 9th grade. Not sour grapes this doesn't affect my kid.
Why don't they care? Because it makes their job much easier. A bigger freshman or sophomore who is already 6' 180lb and throwing close to 90 is a much lower risk than a 14 year old they have to project and hope grows into a college player.
Pro scouts care because they love the 17 year old senior.
@Senna posted:In GA, clock starts as soon as you begin 9th grade. 8 semesters of eligibility.
PG’s #1 ‘23 C in GA reclassified between 7th & 8th grade. Also attending IMG now, which makes it irrelevant most likely.
#4 ‘23 C in GA was a ‘22 until summer, is now a ‘23. Not sure how that’s going to work for him, as he’s in a public school. But not my problem.
I would imagine that the easiest thing to do here in GA (if you reclassified after entering HS) would be to home school the 5th year and play with an academy team (plenty here).
Not something our son will be doing, so we’re just gonna eat popcorn and watch the show...
This just sounds like declaring a post grad year early as an excuse to play down. Surely the rule at PG, PBR etc is that you can't just make up your graduation year. It has to be the year you actually graduate high school.
