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for those who seemed to be confused.


A mlb scout asks a players" So what round do you think you will be drafted.


Player : so and so round


he gets that info from where, ya parents, other fans, Publications, a weegee board,an agent, magic 8 ball or mlb scouts

? how does the players determine what round he thinks he will be drafted
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? how does the players determine what round he thinks he will be drafted


The real information that the scout is trying to find out is at what point would you no longer sign. They want to know what the cut off round is that you no longer would consider being a professional ballplayer.

You have to determine that for yourself. Many people feel that if they say,"I will sign in the top 10 rounds", that their stock will drop, or a team will wait and try to get you later. Not true. If a team wants you they will take you if you fall in that slot on their board. There may be exceptions.

I have always contended that many people don't get drafted because they have unrealistic round/money demands. Many parents do that on purpose to discourage scouts unless they are top picks. It is a personal choice. I personally feel that you cannot negotiate if not drafted and would not make too tough of demands. You can always say no if the negotiations do not go well.

It is impossible to determine what round you will be drafted in unless you are a top 1 or 2 round guy. Then they will tell you.

The publications are a joke and are simply guessing. The local scout has no clue because the scouting director and crosscheckers make the decisions. The easiest you can do is come up with a range or rounds based on all the factors. Those being scouts, agents, and pubs. Comparison to other players that you have played against and the hype surrounding some of them will also help.
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BIG

Drivels question was -- How do you determine what round you will be drafted ?

What you are talking about is not the same-- you have not determined when you tell the scout what round you think you should go in-- you are throwing bread on the water--for negotiation purposes

I agree with what you say-- each player/family does what they think is best for them
Economics. As a family, we wanted to make sure that our son could live for a period of time without having to worry where his rent payment or meal money was coming from. We knew there would be good times, but were realistic that there would also be "bad" times. We were fortunate in that our son had choices with a wonderful college scholarship lined up.
We set a bottom $$ figure that would meet his modest monetary needs for a period of years. (In essence, this determined the round, i.e. slot money.)We told the scouts that this was the bottom line and held to it. Now regarding rounds, prior and during the draft, I received a few calls from teams asking if my son would consider being drafted in "X" round. I said the round didn't matter, but the $$ did. That cleared the air quickly. Again, my son's other option, if not drafted, was to go to a wonderful school, so he was in a win win position.
Families really need to look at the financial committment of minor league life. Most players don't make enough to cover their expenses adding additional financial pressures other than their game performance. I admire every one in the system and the sacrifices they make daily to try to achieve their dream. In addition, I admire the family support most of these players have to keep them going. Good luck to all this June.
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Bighit said it very well.

MLB scouts want to know if we draft you in this round will you sign for X amount of dollars.after which round you will not sign

have seen many parents and even more agents in never never land about where they think they will go in the draft.


good example, saw a player with a mlb scout, asked where you think you will go in the draft.
Dad replied my
agent told me top ten rounds.

Asked how many mlb scouts have seen you:
answer 6
how many came back a 2nd time:
answer : none

Any cross checkers in to see you:
answer none


Dad was shocked to hear his chances of being drafted : was DNF at best and that was pushing it.

He was drafted in
the 48rd signed after
a year in juco, and released less than one year after signing
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Drivels question was -- How do you determine what round you will be drafted ?

TR, Eric's response to that particular question was always, "That is not up to me, that is up to you guys. I have no contol over that. All I can do is play my best to help my team."

That particular question should never be answered. IMO

When pressed, (and they always press) Eric would say that, "some scouts have said rounds 3 or later."
NRV1:
That's essentially how I would think I'd do it with my kid if it ever got to that.

Let's say he needs $20K supplemental income each year to be unconcerned about finances while playing minor league ball.

That's the equivalent of, roughly, a pre-tax signing bonus of $600K? (assuming you take the after tax proceeds and stick it in a fixed income asset yeilding 5%)

$600K is fifth round or higher or so? (I've never looked into the average $$ for each round, that is just a guess.)

The upshot is my kid would have to be an awfully high pick before I'd recommend he not go to college.

Full ride to college is a pretty good downside!
Rob Kremer,

That is an interesting intrepretation of your sons needs. That illustates why each person needs to make their own decisions. Based on your figures, you need not just 20k per year. You need 20k per year in interest and the original money still in the bank.

I am not knocking it. Just a couple of points. Six hundred thousand would be mid-second round or higher. MLB has a scholarship program that pays for college. I have yet to see a college pay an 100k or 200k signing bonus. With mlb you get that and college. Also, you do get paid for playing mlb. Admittedly, it is very little in the beginning. Ranging from 850 a month for your first year to 2300 a month for AAA 6 or 7 months a year.

I personally have never understood the "must be set for life or go to school" mentality. Especially when you can play the game and go to school if you choose. If one signs for even 125k and manages their money, they can still earn about 15k per year (before minor league pay) and still have money left at the end of a five year "tryout" I have yet to see a school that guarentees a set for life policy and the promise of pro ball later. jmo

Not getting into the the argument that is bound to be made that many do not go back vs. older students are better students. Or the argument of missing the college experience vs. concentrating fulltime on baseball. Everyone has a different point of view.

I read NVR's post as saying that he was concerned that his son have the finances to play ball and not struggle. I don't think that he was advocating being set for life. Correct me if I am wrong. It would be great to have the scenario that you described and I certainly would not turn it down.

When my son was a tenth grader I thought that it would take buco bucks (500k) or more to sign. Well when it came down to it, he chose to do it for considerably less money against my wishes. He had a burning desire and a 94 mph fb, so he chose to go and has never regretted it. He is happy and growing as a man. I am very pleased.

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