Just saw that Indiana University will play a Fall ball game Vs John A Logan -Juco (D1) at Indiana Oct 5, kinda surprise P5 D1 vs Juco -D1
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It's cool to see that. Gives Indiana an extra opportunity to scout those JUCO players, too. I know that Iowa has played against Iowa JUCO's in the Fall before.
I was told that the John A Logan is a Power house Juco- stacked.
was told that most if not all their pitchers have touch 90+ with a couple up to 93-94 this fall.
their whole roster/Line up has power top to bottom, going to be interesting seeing them in the Spring
what is the surprising part of this? every Juco I know of spends the fall playing vs various NCAA teams.
Those JUCO boys will bring it. Son said it was some of the best pitching he faced the entire year.
This used to be done a lot back in the day. Glad to see it return. Matchups like this are really good for HS players and parents to see because most don’t understand how good the baseball is at top flight JuCo programs.
HS2020 posted:I was told that the John A Logan is a Power house Juco- stacked.
was told that most if not all their pitchers have touch 90+ with a couple up to 93-94 this fall.
their whole roster/Line up has power top to bottom, going to be interesting seeing them in the Spring
It’s still early in the JuCo recruiting cycle but John Logan already has 2 of their players committed to Illinois
CatsPop posted:Those JUCO boys will bring it. Son said it was some of the best pitching he faced the entire year.
Son’s 2019 JuCo team was really good. At least 6 arms were 90-93. Fourteen kids from that team signed with 4 yr schools after last season - 7 D1, 6 D2, 1 NAIA. None of the D1 signees had any D1 offers coming out of HS.
old_school posted:what is the surprising part of this? every Juco I know of spends the fall playing vs various NCAA teams.
I was surprised of the match up since Indy was big ten Conf champs -
University of Minnesota played NIAC this past weekend. NIAC is a middle of the pack D2 JUCO from northern Iowa. Might not happen again though, Minnesota lost.
https://twitter.com/GopherBase.../1175514073502572544
Northland posted:University of Minnesota played NIAC this past weekend. NIAC is a middle of the pack D2 JUCO from northern Iowa. Might not happen again though, Minnesota lost.
https://twitter.com/GopherBase.../1175514073502572544
The first video of the game on this twitter feed shows a UM incoming freshman throwing that was definitely recruited for his projectability as opposed to his current readiness to compete at the D1 level. This is certainly not uncommon for these fall games. Not likely that the D1's are going to roll out their top rotation guys, at least not for any length of time. I don't know that you can really take anything away from the outcomes of these scrimmages. Get some guys some work against guys in different uni's than their own. Typically a whole lot of shuffling going on.
Even though they're referred to as "games," and they'll usually be played in the customary 9-inning format, they don't count toward the DI's won-loss record in the upcoming regular season (Although, they do count against the total number of games allowed to be played in the regular season.). As a result, they're viewed as exhibitions; giving teams that would never play against one another in the regular season a chance to do so. Also, as has been pointed out here, it gives the JUCO players an additional opportunity to be evaluated and recruited by DI coaches.
Wins and losses don't matter. I'm sure that the coaches of both teams weren't even playing to win. Plenty of D1s do this, it's free recruiting, schools don't have to pay for hotels or travel, and the coaches often know each other. Ideally I would like to see 4 or 5 fall games. Schools can get their JC games in and a couple more against other non conference P5/D1s for their freshman to get that out of their system.
I would love to see the matchups be something like if you are D1 you can play 2 other D1's like it is now but you can also play 3 JUCO's. It would be beneficial to everyone. The D1's would get playing time and the JUCO's would get their kids seen by prospective schools.
I would disagree on the most schools don't throw their aces mindset. As many as I have been to over the years, I've never seen a school not throw their ace unless he was hurt. They may not fully play to win but they always throw their best. Many schools will play 2 games or 1 game and extra innings. The first part will be main players or returners and the second part/game will be incoming freshmen or younger players. Many will throw returning pitchers 2 innings or set number of pitches and then incoming guys 1 inning or set number of pitches. They want to get the both groups in a game situation.
I also think it depends on who they are playing. Tennessee is playing Clemson this Saturday and I'm sure both programs want to win to some extent for excitement toward spring. Son is just excited he will get 1 inning/pitches and 1 at bat.
Northland posted:University of Minnesota played NIAC this past weekend. NIAC is a middle of the pack D2 JUCO from northern Iowa. Might not happen again though, Minnesota lost.
https://twitter.com/GopherBase.../1175514073502572544
Iowa plays NIACC tomorrow. We’ll see how that goes! Last year and this all the fall games are against Iowa jucos and one against a group of Canadian all stars who seem to be recent HS grads.
For background info, prior to last year any Fall games or scrimmages that a Division I team played against an outside opponent had to count against the 56-game limit (with an exception for one game against a "foreign opponent" - often the Canadian team mentioned above).
The current rule permits two games in the Fall that don't count against the 56-game Spring limit.
Rick at Informed Athlete posted:For background info, prior to last year any Fall games or scrimmages that a Division I team played against an outside opponent had to count against the 56-game limit (with an exception for one game against a "foreign opponent" - often the Canadian team mentioned above).
The current rule permits two games in the Fall that don't count against the 56-game Spring limit.
Rick, thanks very much for the clarification and, in my case, the correction.
Rick at Informed Athlete posted:For background info, prior to last year any Fall games or scrimmages that a Division I team played against an outside opponent had to count against the 56-game limit (with an exception for one game against a "foreign opponent" - often the Canadian team mentioned above).
The current rule permits two games in the Fall that don't count against the 56-game Spring limit.
I wondered if there had been a change. In the fall of 2012 my son was freshman at a D2 JuCo. Late in their fall season they had couple of "games" at a D1 university, but officially it was listed as a "12 inning scrimmage". In reality they played two 9 inning games.
Our hs used to play area Juco teams in the Fall, but now they don't because the Judos can play against D1 opponents.
State College of Florida will play at Florida State this fall