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HS2020 posted:

I was told that the John A Logan is a Power house Juco- stacked.

was told that most if not all their pitchers have touch 90+  with a couple up to 93-94 this fall.

their whole roster/Line up has power top to bottom, going to be interesting seeing them in the Spring

It’s still early in the JuCo recruiting cycle but John Logan already has 2 of their players committed to Illinois 

Now 5 D1 commits for John Logan 

adbono posted:
adbono posted:
HS2020 posted:

I was told that the John A Logan is a Power house Juco- stacked.

was told that most if not all their pitchers have touch 90+  with a couple up to 93-94 this fall.

their whole roster/Line up has power top to bottom, going to be interesting seeing them in the Spring

It’s still early in the JuCo recruiting cycle but John Logan already has 2 of their players committed to Illinois 

Now 5 D1 commits for John Logan 

Now 7 D1 commits for John Logan 

What you are also seeing a lot more now is P5 or D1 schools in general allowing Juco's to use their field in the fall for practices and scrimmages.  They get to play on nicer fields and stadiums and the D1's get to see prospects and interact with them in their facility.  I know UT got a couple this fall on one of these days.

Juco softball team played a D1 yesterday and the D1 was losing.  Their 7-9 batters were up in bottom on 6th and they put their 3,4, and 5 batters up.  The coach said we always do free substitutions in fall games.  They argued free subs are not moving players in lineup.  They scored 2 runs to go up and called game due to time limit.  D1's don't like to lose to JUCO's in any sport. 

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We played NIACC Friday (after a rain out a week ago). I was curious to see them after they beat Minnesota, but I realized two things during the  14 inning game.

First, as baseballHS says above, it was a chance for each team to see and show off what they have. NIACC players got to play in front of the state's only D1 baseball program, which is good for them and for Iowa's coaches who are probably looking for next year's transfers.

Second, though, for us, it was the chance for something like 14 pitchers to show what they can do, including a lot of freshman or transfer students. Four guys got two innings for us, everybody else one, regardless of how well anyone did. So while it was good for coaches to see what they can put on the field, if the priority is seeing everyone, winning isn't.

The game was actually tied through the eighth before Iowa went on a scoring binge and ended up winning 10-1. Probably means NIACC was also giving its new pitchers an opportunity in later innings.

I'm curious what might have happened if the outcome had ever been in serious question.

Not buying the when the D1 school decides to play to win that is what will happen idea.... my opinion is this......The to 25 jucos in the country are a very consistent group of schools that are supplying D1s with talent year after year.  The top 10 jucos in the country are supplying double digit levels of players to D1s every year.  For those jucos  the talent difference between them and a D1 program in the 40-75 range is minimal.  Once you get outside of the perennial top 50 D1 programs everyone else is some version of mediocre (yearly results have fairly large up/down swings) with a talent level not discernibly different from a perennial top 10 juco. ...again when someone sees a top quality juco program hang right with a D1 baseball team even one that has consistent success they should not be surprised...the same thing would happen in the spring...

A friend’s son played for the Grayson College 1999 and 2000 NJCAA champions. Everyone getting playing time was drafted or moved on the D1. Two years later almost everyone getting playing time on those teams was in the minors. Six players made the majors. Tim Tadlock, now head coach at Texas Tech was the head coach. I’m thinking most college hitters would have had trouble hitting future MLBer John Lackey. 

LaunchAngle posted:

Not buying the when the D1 school decides to play to win that is what will happen idea.... my opinion is this......The to 25 jucos in the country are a very consistent group of schools that are supplying D1s with talent year after year.  The top 10 jucos in the country are supplying double digit levels of players to D1s every year.  For those jucos  the talent difference between them and a D1 program in the 40-75 range is minimal.  Once you get outside of the perennial top 50 D1 programs everyone else is some version of mediocre (yearly results have fairly large up/down swings) with a talent level not discernibly different from a perennial top 10 juco. ...again when someone sees a top quality juco program hang right with a D1 baseball team even one that has consistent success they should not be surprised...the same thing would happen in the spring...

The JUCO our HS team played every year is a top 10 juco. We are a very good hs team but if the goal was winning on either side, we wouldn’t beat them multiple times. It’s about seeing players. At least in fall. 

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